Print Page | Close Window

Three albums that were released October 1971

Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Polls
Forum Description: Create polls on topics related to progressive music
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121081
Printed Date: July 19 2025 at 21:00
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Three albums that were released October 1971
Posted By: BaldJean
Subject: Three albums that were released October 1971
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 10:58
October 1971 saw the release of 3 albums with a 23 something minutes epic: "Meddle" by Pink Floyd, "Focus II" by Focus and "Pawn Hearts" by Van der Graaf Generator.

this is actually a double question, which is why I allow multiple votes. please answer twice, once for the first part and once for the second


-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta



Replies:
Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 11:05
Pink Floyd for both questions 


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 11:24
Pawn Hearts for both questions.
 
 
 
 


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 11:54
It's a slam dunk for Pawn Hearts!

-------------
"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 12:42
PH over Meddle for both questions. 

-------------
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 12:53
Meddle is too much of a favorite of mine, so it gets both votes.

-------------
https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 12:58
Meddle for both options.


Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 14:28
^this

-------------


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 15:44
Pawn Hearts as album, Echoes as epic.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 16:23
It's got to be Pink Floyd for me.


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 18:09
I'm going with Pawn Hearts as the best overall album and Meddle as the best epic...

-------------
He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 22:17
PH both

-------------



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 00:02
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Pawn Hearts as album, Echoes as epic.
 

me too


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 01:48
Pawn Hearts checks both boxes for me.

-------------

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 02:06
Pawn Hearts obviously

-------------
Songs cast a light on you


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 05:02
Echoes as best epic


-------------
I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 06:24
Meddle for both.


-------------
Welcome to the middle of the film.


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 07:52
I had to give Focus a sympathy vote...


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 09:05
Floyd & Floyd

-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 09:09
VdGG by far on both accounts


Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 09:13
Pawn Hearts.

Enjoy reading in The Book how Hugh Banton was hopeful of more commercial success after tracks like 'Killer' on H>He, and was hoping for more of the same on the next album, only for Peter Hammill to dash his hopes by presenting a sprawling 23 minute masterpiece written in an ice-cream van during a chaotic Italian Tour. 


-------------
Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 11:07
The force was strong in 1971.

Have loved all three albums and all three tracks, and if you were just asking for favourite I'd be with VdGG in both cases -- at others times I might have been with the other choices.

I'm crap at doing best, unless it's best for me. That said, my intuition, not that one should put too much trust in one's intuition, tells me that not only is Pawn Hearts my favourite of these, but it is the truest masterpiece of these. It is also the album of these three that I would call the masterpiece of the band, so that alone gives it a significant edge. That's actually an easy choice for me despite that Pink Floyd would generally and globally be considered the most significant of these bands.

As to the tracks, this is a little harder for me, "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" is my favourite, and I think it amazing, but ultimately I think "Echoes" more significant in various ways, so it will get my vote. That said, both are really significant to the bands' oeuvres. Well, all of these tracks are in that sense, but Focus' later "Hamburger Concerto" seems more significant to me than "Eruption".    

By the way, I know that Micky derides "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", but to me it sounds brilliant. My favourite long track by Pink Floyd, I'd call it a suite rather than an epic, is "Atom Heart Mother", and purely as my favourite, that would give "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", which also has a suite quality, a run for the money.

-------------
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 11:39
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

By the way, I know that Micky derides "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", but to me it sounds brilliant.

Is that the same dude who say that everything Tull after Aqualung is boring as sh*t? With such unsophisticated claims it's hard to take what the guy is saying seriously.

-------------



Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 12:21
I'll take Meddle.....if I had to listen to it for ever it would be ok....Focus 2 also ,but Pawn Hearts would eventually give me a nervous breakdown.  ;)

btw...The Mickster knows his music.....simply because he doesn't drool all over VDGG, like so many here, means little in my book.


-------------
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin


Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 12:22
Pawn/Pawn Hearts/Hearts


-------------
"we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 12:32
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

By the way, I know that Micky derides "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", but to me it sounds brilliant.

Is that the same dude who say that everything Tull after Aqualung is boring as sh*t? With such unsophisticated claims it's hard to take what the guy is saying seriously.


I consider Micky to be an online friend, but I may have been trolling a bit. Micky is a character, but then so is Micky Mouse.

-------------
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 12:40
^ Nothing personal against him either but his tendency for bad-mouthing is pretty intense at times and perfectly wearisome. I sometimes have the impression that the guy is on a mission...

-------------



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 13:44
I don't want to bad mouth Micky, I'd much rather do that to his face. :) He's a character, as I said, and he has gone through a lot it seems. I think he has a good heart, and the sh*t-kicking antics are more like schtick-kicking antics. It can be very abrasive, but we can all be abrasive.

-------------
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 14:17
Meddle > Focus II > Pawn Hearts

This goes for both the album and the epic.


-------------


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 14:22
I usually avoid reading those highly abrasive posters but in this particular case it's just impossible to ignore him since when he's here...he's all over the f**king place!

but don't get me wrong, I do not dislike the dude, I simply deplores his tactics.

Je pense que j'ai dit ce que j'avais à dire.

-------------



Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: October 02 2019 at 00:53
Pawn Hearts is the best album and Meddle has the best epic. Focus II is a great album but it doesn't match the class of the other two.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 02 2019 at 01:14
Meddle x2.

-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 09:50
Best album Hearts 
Best epic Echoes 


-------------
Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."



Music Is Live

Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed.



Keep Calm And Listen To The Music…
<


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 12:25
Pawn Hearts


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 19:09
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

October 1971 saw the release of 3 albums with a 23 something minutes epic: "Meddle" by Pink Floyd, "Focus II" by Focus and "Pawn Hearts" by Van der Graaf Generator.

this is actually a double question, which is why I allow multiple votes. please answer twice, once for the first part and once for the second

VdGG for both questions.


-------------
Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: April 16 2020 at 13:28
Pawn Hearts is more consistent as an album, but I think I prefer "Eruption" over "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers" (I do like the latter, but it's probably my least favourite track on Hearts). I'm pretty sure that at this point I've extracted everything out of Meddle that I ever will, to the point where listening to it just doesn't feel worth the time anymore.




Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd. - http://www.webwiz.co.uk