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Topic: Prog bands with no lineup changes
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Prog bands with no lineup changes
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 17:43
I had this conversation with my brother via text(but just rock bands in general and not just prog). I'm talking about relatively long lived bands here(ones that had at least five albums) and ones that most of us have at least heard of. 

The only one I can think of is Emerson Lake and Palmer but if you say ELP then it doesn't work. LOL Gentle Giant had one lineup change.



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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 18:02
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I had this conversation with my brother via text(but just rock bands in general and not just prog). I'm talking about relatively long lived bands here(ones that had at least five albums) and ones that most of us have at least heard of. 

The only one I can think of is Emerson Lake and Palmer but if you say ELP then it doesn't work. LOL Gentle Giant had one lineup change.

Rush, if you don't count the original drummer (and any of the band changes pre-first album release). Even ELP changed to Emerson, Lake and Powell for a minute in the 80s.

I don't know.


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 18:03
Any band that had only one album LOL


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 18:09
I was thinking Rush too but they don't really count since they had John Rutsey before Neil Peart. 

Also, it's funny how UK only had two studio albums yet still had lineup changes. With any other genre they would probably qualify. LOL


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 18:28
^ But Rush was the only intact surviving prog band from the classic era.   Besides, Rutsey died in a bizarre gardening accident.   



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 18:37
No, he didn't. He died in his sleep from complications from diabetes(one of the reasons he left the band in the first place). This isn't about death of members anyway, just which bands had the fewest(or preferably none)lineup changes.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rutsey" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rutsey  

Not sure where you got that gardening accident thing from. LOL 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 18:46
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Besides, Rutsey died in a bizarre gardening accident.
 

That was Toto drummer Jeff Porcaro.* John Rutsey reportedly died in his sleep (heart attack; complications related to diabetes). Rutsey went into bodybuilding after his departure from Rush. For at least a couple decades, the guy was fit.

*Jeff and the other guys in Toto were fond of the nose candy. While it was reported that Jeff had an allergic reaction to a type of herbicide he was spraying, nobody bought the story. There are YT clips of an '80s synth tutorial by Steve Porcaro where the guy's clearly gacked out on the sugar.

Toto's singer Bobby Kimball was even jailed for trying to sell some of the stuff to a plainclothes cop. That's why they had to replace him. Confused



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 19:13
^ I know--  it was a bad Spinal Tap joke.





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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 19:27
Triumvirat

LOL


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 19:46
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Triumvirat

LOL
 

Now you know that ain't true! LOL


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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 19:48
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Gentle Giant had one lineup change.


Actually, 4, because they went through a few drummers before settling on John Weathers.

Can't think of any prog bands that had 0 line-up changes. I think Rush gets the award for being the most stable. Tool has also had the same line-up since their 2nd album 25 years ago (although they've only released 4 albums in that time.)

Outside of prog, ZZ Top has had the same 3 members since their first release (they did have other members before that, though).


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 20:04
Forgot about the drummers. I only know of Martin Smith and Malcolm Mortimer before John Weathers. I think they only had three drummers total.

Actually, if we can count them as prog Golden Earring had a very stable lineup for most of their career. They had a few extra members but their core has been the same since 70 or so. At the very least Golden Earring deserves a mention. Yes, ZZ Top also for non prog(and longevity).

For modern prog Echolyn has had a very stable lineup with very few personnel changes.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 20:12
If we're just counting what's on PA i can only think of a few

Muse
Radiohead
Explosions In The Sky
Gojira
Mastodon (unless you count the EPs)
Talking Heads

Of course some of these are merely prog related but goes to show you how few bands stick together unchanged. Even bands with one album go through many changes before getting to that one album







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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 20:37
Besides the Beatles, I can only think of Queen, if you consider them prog enough. Many had a classic period line—up, like Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, and so on, but that’s another topic I guess.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 21:36
^ even The Beatles started out with Pete Best on drums although he was gone before any major albums

Queen would count if it weren't for the lame attempt to replaced Freddie with Adam Lambert recently

I would imagine this thread has to do with bands that NEVER had a change from the very beginning til the end but that's just my guess


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 21:58
What is it with drummers.  They drop like flies.



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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 23:09
^ gardening accidents of course LOL


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 07 2019 at 23:40
Prog related.
Kings X, Tabor, Pinnick and Gaskill for all 15 albums.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 02:18
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ even The Beatles started out with Pete Best on drums although he was gone before any major albums

 
There were other drummers before Pete Best and a number of other members as well - assorted guitarists, bass players and washboard players.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 02:26
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ gardening accidents of course LOL

I've also heard tell of the occasional freak house cleaning event.



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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 03:26
Horslips. 32-years; 10-studio albums; same five musicians.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 06:48
It would be interesting also "Bands that never recorded with the same lineup twice.


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 06:55
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It would be interesting also "Bands that never recorded with the same lineup twice.


King Crimson perhaps


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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 07:33
ANEKDOTEN!!!


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 08:33
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It would be interesting also "Bands that never recorded with the same lineup twice.


King Crimson perhaps
 
 
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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 09:30
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It would be interesting also "Bands that never recorded with the same lineup twice.


King Crimson perhaps


Didn't they had the same lineup throughout the 80s?


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 09:55
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It would be interesting also "Bands that never recorded with the same lineup twice.


Hawkwind must be in the running for that one.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 15:37
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ even The Beatles started out with Pete Best on drums although he was gone before any major albums

Queen would count if it weren't for the lame attempt to replaced Freddie with Adam Lambert recently

I would imagine this thread has to do with bands that NEVER had a change from the very beginning til the end but that's just my guess

I didn't specify but first album and on is fair I think. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 15:41
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It would be interesting also "Bands that never recorded with the same lineup twice.


King Crimson perhaps


Didn't they have the same lineup throughout the 80s?

Yep. Bruford, Fripp, Belew and Levin were the only musicians on the three 80's albums afaik. Trey Gunn and Pat Mastelotto came later. The last two studio albums were with the same lineup also.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 16:55
I believe Triumph, prog related in the beginning at least remained the same trio for its duration


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 08 2019 at 21:06
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ gardening accidents of course LOL

I've also heard tell of the occasional freak house cleaning event.


sounds tame considering the epidemic of schizophrenia which took out ..  ummm...with axes LOL  .. several legendary 70's drummers.

perhaps that is why even though I loved drumming more than playing bass..  I decided between my additctions to booze, broads and blow I needed to stick with what I was best at. not what I truly loved. That would have even been too much for me..  I was surprised I made it to 50.. if I had stuck with drums.. I wouldn't have made it to 30.


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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 08:43
Errr... Led Zeppelin?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 08:44
Vanden Plas, progressive metal from Germany. I did not know that. Pretty cool! Thumbs Up



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