Permanent Waves vs Drama
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Topic: Permanent Waves vs Drama
Posted By: Argo2112
Subject: Permanent Waves vs Drama
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:16
| A couple of good ones from 1980 to choose from. |
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:17
| That's a tough one. If forced at gunpoint I'd probably go for PW. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:23
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Great face-off, but I gotta go Yes on this one.... ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:24
Yes, it can be a bit of a Drama riding those Permanent Waves in a Rush of adrenaline. 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:33
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Yes. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:33
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Permanent Waves is obviously the better album in my book. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:36
| Drama |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 14:52
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Voting for Drama. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 15:20
| Love both, but permanent waves is the clear winner |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 17:25
| Drama's a great album but it's no better than #6 or 7 in the Yes discography. Vote for Permanent Waves. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 17:39
No vote for me. Permanent waves is my first or second favorite Rush album but Drama is also very strong. Plus I'm a bit of a Yes fanboy and have a hard time voting against them.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 18:15
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Drama is indeed excellent but easy vote for PW. ------------- |
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 19:56
| It used to be safe to ridicule Drama. Its reappraisal has literally been dramatic. |
Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 20:08
| Rush |
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: October 24 2019 at 20:44
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Easy.. Permanent Waves. I'm (relatively, for what I think I've seen on this site) big on Rush.. (and in fact, the fact that this poll is in a tie at the time of this post sort of confirms it for me) and for me 'Permanent' is absolute (my) (Rush) 'canon' (I mean: a 70's album, equally good as the others from that period etc.) Drama for me is interesting, have many good and notable things (hence my nick & avatar), but... 'Permanent' on this one. I'm definitely a 70's, guitar oriented rock guy. Oh my...! just checked they're both from 1980! Good one Argo2112  almost got me there.Well this makes me draw two conclusions: 1) how evolutionized Drama is for its release date, and 2) that I now value PW even more for maintaining that 70's power and progressive rock sound that I love so much through to the 80's. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 00:35
| Another tough poll. Both are probably around about my 5th favourite albums by either band . Both represented a major re-invention of the bands approach and sound. Rush stuck but Yes didn't. I voted Rush because Jacobs Ladder just beats Machine Messiah in the battle of the mini epics. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 02:05
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Drama all the way. Chris Squire's arguably most shining, up-front bass production performance EVER. Does It Really Happen? ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 02:10
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Permanent Waves by a long shot. It's the best Rush album in my book.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 03:39
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Pretty tough choice, but I'll go with Rush. PW was a breakthrough album and a change of direction. Drama was a 'controversial' album by a band in decline, but still damn good. It really was a tough choice. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 06:12
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Tough one. Went with Permanent Waves by a hair. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 07:15
| Normally, I would vote for Yes over rush, but this time, the roles turn around. Rush takes my vote. |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 10:21
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Permanent Waves for hint of exposed cover panties. Oh yeah, the music is pretty good too. I like Drama though
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 10:23
^ As good a reason as any to pick an album! 
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 11:00
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Waves ......not that close for me. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 12:23
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Permanent Waves by a long ways ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 13:11
Agreed , I love Chris Squire's work on this album. One of his best & Does it Really Happen is a great track. |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 17:31
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Neither - if that is an option ? ok albums but no more that that and would hardly find time to listen to any of those these days.
------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 26 2019 at 00:19
It's funny that these albums seem to have some parallels (excuse the pun) . Geddy's bass on Freewill versus Chris's bass on Does it Really Happen? Both are monsters!
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: November 02 2019 at 19:06
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Even through Permanent Waves is my favourite Rush, it's still not nearly on the level of Drama. ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: November 02 2019 at 21:01
It's way better ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 09:12
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Permanent Waves ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 05:50
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nice poll! bump!
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 06:08
| Even a fair to middling Yes album beats anything Rush can muster |
Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 06:33
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^ Not according to this poll so far. ------------- Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 06:51
| ^ Since when are any of these polls objective? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 06:52
he didn't mean that, just that Rush got more votes so far.
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 07:07
| The lead vocals are one important factor which's on the side of PW. But the sheer class and imagination showed in Drama still prevail, I think. |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 07:56
No sh%$ Sherlock!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 08:04
that's unnecessarily rude...
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 11:27
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Outside of Natural Science and White Car, both are a little goofy for their respective groups. Thank goodness for the Howe/Squire/White combo to garner my vote for Drama. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 11:38
Not cool. Pump the brakes. Yes, polls are subjective. So is the statement, "Even a fair to middling Yes album beats anything Rush can muster". ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 12:10
| I like both, but give the edge to Drama, as more satisfying and better able to stand up to the test of time and repeated listenings. You also listen to the blend of five people, rather than three. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 13:32
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I do like Drama, but not nearly enough as PW. Not a big fan of Trevor Horn's vocals, the music is very good......Jacob's Laddder and Natural Science are the icing on the record.. -------------   
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 14:05
| Permanent Waves.... probably my fave Rush album. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 15:03
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Permanent Waves. Although Rush were rather hit and miss in the 80s, this and Moving Pictures got the decade off to a flying start. I didn't really get Drama at the time, and I don't think that it has aged well. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 15:34
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As much as I love Drama (which is in my top 5 Yes albums), I still have to go with Permanent Waves. Definitely my favorite Rush record, as it combined their cerebral 70s material and their more introspective 80s material perfectly ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 22:08
| Drama |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 02:34
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PW is probably a more consistent & cohesive collection of tracks, but I feel Drama has more power and character. The big Y was a band fractured and wayward, but the three masters, as always, remained intact. Yeah, I dunno. Voted Drama 'cause it's behind. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 05:09
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Both excellent, but prefer Drama - Yes, Drama is in top 5 best Yes albums ever, I love it |
Posted By: EduTatsumi
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 16:07
| Drama |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 10 2022 at 00:49
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Permanent Waves - Rush ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |