Prog, Not Prog
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Topic: Prog, Not Prog
Posted By: JD
Subject: Prog, Not Prog
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 10:37
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(This may have been done before but it's probably been a while.) What absolutely non-prog band has a song that would be right at home on a prog album? Here's mine...CSNY - Love the One You're With It has all the elements, cool organ solos (think Jon Lord, Rod Argent), interesting rhythms (think steel drums ELP's BSS) , beautiful vocal harmonies (think Yes, Gentle Giant). What's yours?
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 10:59
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Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik has "Breaking the Girl": ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 11:16
I totally agree. Love that track. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
I prophesy disaster wrote:Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 11:20
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Dire Straits - Telegraph Road ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 11:31
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Extreme: The Truth (section 3 of Three Sides to Every Story): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88CHZ0KBCdU&t=297s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88CHZ0KBCdU&t=297s
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Posted By: Tillerman88
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 11:59
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I'd bet they once said: "Let us go......progressive now"  Black Sabbath - Air Dance  ------------- The overwhelming amount of information on a daily basis restrains people from rewinding the news record archives to refresh their memories... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:06
Even if it's been done before, it still seems like a good idea for a thread.  Can I choose a solo artist instead of a band?
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:08
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Star rider - Foreigner ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:14
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:15
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:15
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:23
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ANNIE HASLAM - Inside My Life |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:38
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Heh...I always liked this whole album....so sue me.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 12:44
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dada "Puzzle" or "Ask the Dust" also completely agree with Dire Straits "Telegraph Road, their live album "Alchemy" has progged-up versions of every song. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 13:10
....just like I completely agree with the Dada choice you mentioned above. "Puzzle" is a completely underrated album. Another great one, at least in my opinion is Squeeze "Last Time Forever". ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73nYXYiUj4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73nYXYiUj4 ) In fact, pretty much the entire album that track comes off of, "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti", is quite progressive. I first heard that album when I was working in a music store back in the 80s, and someone put it on. I instantly hated the album, but now it has become one of my favorite albums by a non-prog band playing complex music. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 13:28
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Funkadelic~Maggot Brain EW&F~Zanzibar Scorpions~Lonesome Crow Phil Collins~In the Air Tonight -------------   
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 13:56
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One of the most obvious choices would be Elton John's "Funeral for a Friend", as well as the Allmans' "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed". A number of new wave bands also have quite a few "proggy" songs. The Stranglers, for instance, have almost too many to mention ("Down in the Sewer", "Toiler of the Sea", "Golden Brown", to name but three). Then again, I am one of those people who was in favour of adding them to Prog-Related. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:23
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Sweet - "Love is Like Oxygen" and "No You Don't" Mountain - "Nantucket Sleighride" Jane's Addiction - "Three Days" and "The Mountain" ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:27
| Elton John - Funeral for a Friend. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:31
Dolly Parton - Stairway to Heaven ...  ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:37
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ROLF HARRIS - Stairway To Heaven |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:38
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Magazine - Back to Nature (though whether the band could be deemed 'absolutely non-Prog' is debatable) ------------- 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:45
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The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) -------------
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 14:51
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Hans Zimmer's "The Battle March", from the movie, Gladiator, in the Symphonic Prog genre. |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:03
Nice one! One of my all time faves. Awesome, epic song.
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:04
Another great choice! Sabbath stepping it up... even if overall NSD was one of their lesser albums.
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:08
This shouldn't be a prog surprise since Annie came from Renaissance.
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:09
Not surprisingly, Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding, is the only EJ song I really like.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:13
there is a lot of CSN and CSNY that could be prog-ish. ..many of Crosby's songs Deja Vu Guinnavir--and Suite:Judy Blue Eyes--- love the band.
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:17
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The Who - The Real Me While I don't generally consider Argent prog, Lothlorien is a killer prog song.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:38
I listened to Argent's Greatest Hits just a few days ago and some of their songs do sound quite proggy, including their best-known song, "Hold Your Head Up".
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 15:45
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 16:09
That makes at least two of us here on this thread who agree that Argent are prog then.
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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 16:38
------------- -John |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 16:48
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It's the Time of the Season for some Argent. |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 16:51
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Some songs that come to mind ;) Donovan - Celeste Frank Sinatra - What Time Does the Next Miracle Leave? Scott Walker - Manhattan (..and many others!) Arthur - Pandora Bruce Dickinson - Omega ------------- I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 17:00
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Easy choice for me! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 17:32
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Gerry Rafferty - Standing at the Gates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuaqttKoLRI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuaqttKoLRI Stellar musicianship, especially Mo Foster's bass playing on the outro. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: sidc58
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 20:01
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Ultravox Western Promise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk82GuIE2dY ------------- "Why, she's no fun, she fell right over".--Nick Danger (Third Eye) |
Posted By: sidc58
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 20:12
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omd architecture and morality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3KTY--20g ------------- "Why, she's no fun, she fell right over".--Nick Danger (Third Eye) |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 23:03
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I love this track, which I think qualifies. It's Ten Years After - Rock & Roll Music To The World - Standing At The Station: ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 01:06
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Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 01:09
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Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 01:14
| How about “Abraham’s Daughter” by Arcade Fire, “Epic” by Faith No More, or “Something In 4/4 Time” by Daryl Hall? |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 01:29
I couldn't if I tried.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 03:53
 Rof!
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 03:55
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 05:17
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Not an expert for proper genre classification, so I'm not sure whether this piece of progressive stadium rock actually can count as prog according to the rules of this forum, but I can say that Foals playing Two Steps Twice live is surely among the very best things you can see live these days, and would do any prog album proud. |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 05:45
| MGMT while some would argue "Siberian Breaks" would be at home on a Prog album, I'd nominate their track "Metanoia". |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 06:02
| Zeppelin Achilles Last Stand |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 06:05
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Best call....Steve Harley > Death Trip ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 06:37
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 06:49
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The last two are from albums that are stunning pretty much from beginning to end, so not really isolated proggy songs on otherwise non-proggy albums (although probably not classified as full-blown prog by most)... rather stuff that I believe is pretty much unknown in these quarters... there are more female geniuses in music than just Kate Bush...
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Posted By: xhouse
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 09:50
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My first thought was Dire Straits - Telegraph Road but that’s been mentioned. How about Grateful Dead - Terrapin Station. Or Trey Anastasio - Beneath A Sea Of Stars. (I know, Phish and Oysterhead are on this site as prog related) And if you’re referencing CSN, I’d say Cathedral or Shadow Captain could qualify. ------------- Between Thought and Expression Lies True Perception |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 21:25
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Lastly, I had tried to add this to the database back in the day, not very optimistically, knowing that it's way left field. But if you like Shakti, the below is as prog as that, if not more so (it's an organised composition as opposed to Hindustani/Carnatic improv playing, for one thing). |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 21:30
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 30 2019 at 21:32
Fair enough. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 01 2019 at 00:52
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Freebird Boston - Foreplay/It's Been A Long Time was recently used at the end of an episode of Ray Donovan. The instrumental intro is truly brilliant from a prog keyboard point of view.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 01 2019 at 02:17
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Snow Patrol - The Lightning Strike |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 02 2019 at 05:13
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 02 2019 at 06:02
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^ One of my favourite tracks from a truly iconoclastic album but as challenging as the lyrical content and its delivery are...the music is the antithesis of Prog and is deliberately basic and primal (visceral) rock and roll -------------
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: December 02 2019 at 06:25
This! Love it!
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 02 2019 at 07:07
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Ok, something very borderline then... This is a ballad from an italian singer-songwriter who started in the 60s and has just announced his definitive retirement. He has never been a prog artist and never considered himself so, but try to imagine how this song would sound with a prog arrangement. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 02 2019 at 07:14
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...I like this game... non-prog stuff which triggers my prog receptors... ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: ColinCool
Date Posted: December 02 2019 at 08:15
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How about Al Stewart's Roads To Moscow or Nostradamus both on his Past Present & Future album. I'll second the call for Steve Harley's Death Trip too! |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 08:27
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Grateful Dead - Terrapin Station Cat Stevens - Foreigner Suite Dead Kennedys - Ill In The Head Ultravox - Hiroshima Mon Amour XTC - Travels In Nihilon
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 11:43
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There's probably more examples of these than you might think. Here's some I thought of: Elton John - Funeral for a Friend/ love lies bleeding " " - Out of the Blue (I'm not an Elton expert but this is probably the most fusiony thing he has ever done) Aerosmith - The movie CCR- ramble tamble, heard it through the grapevine ZZ Top - cheap sunglasses Allman Brothers - Les Brers in A minor Doobie Brothers - Don't cheat the hangman Steely Dan - Aja (title track) (I hesitate to put SD on here but they were really more jazz rock/pop but this is pretty proggy/fusiony(in a more typical fusion way) The Eagles - Journey of the Sorcerer Loggins and Messina - Angry Eyes Prince - Computer Blue Pearl Jam - W.M.A (not sure if they have others) Jane's Addiction - Three Days Red Hot Chilipepers- Sir Psycho sexy(ok maybe not so much the lyrics ;), breaking the girl The Rolling Stones - Can't you hear me knocking (always thought it sounded like Traffic), Moonlight Mile U2- All I want is You, Exit REM - Endgame Smashing Pumpkins - Porcelina of the vast oceans (maybe thru the eyes of ruby and tonight, tonight also) The Tubes - Up from the deep, getoverture Screaming Trees - Traveler ( I remember thinking this could be an outtake from a trick of the tail; I'm not sure I still feel that way but there is some nice mellotron on it) Soundgarden - Applebite Phish have one also but jam band is close to prog. As for the Grateful Dead they were very experimental at times so I personally wouldn't include them. |
Posted By: Tillerman88
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 13:36
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^easy task isn't it? interesting list by the way, just some remarks I'd make - the Allman's track quite possibly inspired Fish's Marillion intro to "Assassing" hahah..... , and good picks on Elton John , a no-brainer here ,undoubtedly .... (to you prog fanboys .) I would pick Indian Sunset for one, but when it comes to his early works his album Tumbleweed Connection comes to mind, some really great tracks there. I suggest you the Deluxe Edition , some unique BCC Session recordings in CD2. ------------- The overwhelming amount of information on a daily basis restrains people from rewinding the news record archives to refresh their memories... |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 15:26
Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 16:09
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The Who 905 |
Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 16:13
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Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 16:38
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 16:45
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or 'Green Earrings' -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBmsfV1MkCk&list=PLfGibfZATlGrvWkpL8_85c3STuNv6d3Cz&index=6" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBmsfV1MkCk&list=PLfGibfZATlGrvWkpL8_85c3STuNv6d3Cz&index=6  ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 17:17
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Uriah Heep Wake Up (Set Your Sights) |
Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 17:25
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 17:49
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^ Hell yeah, two cuts that helped SD be listed on this site ~ ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 18:16
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Well, I disagree about the Steely Dan but anyway here's one I forgot to mention if they aren't considered prog enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdNbBL4PnU4&list=PL3hju7cJi6zKcX9O4s7dcpghuhnJ_zhMh&index=8&t=0s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdNbBL4PnU4&list=PL3hju7cJi6zKcX9O4s7dcpghuhnJ_zhMh&index=8&t=0s |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 18:21
Uriah Heep is listed as heavy prog on this website.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 18:45
This. Or this.... ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 18:50
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Rainbow Stargazer |
Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 19:20
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Pink Floyd Money Yes I know that Pink Floyd is listed on this site as Psychedelic rock but this song is Progressive rock as it features odd time signatures.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 04 2019 at 20:16
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How about this... ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 05 2019 at 00:41
Agreed Another one John Miles - Music |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 05 2019 at 02:19
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John Miles's Music if fully prog. I don't know anything else feom him but based on that song he should be here ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: December 05 2019 at 16:55
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How about Alice Cooper's "Ballad of Dwight Fry" or "Black Juju"? Alex Harvey "Faith Healer" Elton John (& Paul Buckmaster) "Four Moods/Seasons" Simon & Garfunkel "Save the Life of My Child"Angel "Tower," "Long Time," or "Mariner" ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 06 2019 at 00:22
I've got the album Rebel and this is certainly the only track that is prog but it is an absolute beaut!
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 06 2019 at 02:28
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 06 2019 at 04:40
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Just to refute his most zealous fans claim that Lou Reed was Rock's master storyteller nonpareil. This is a Stan Ridgway masterpiece from 1989 and one of the very few songs deserving of the description 'cinematic' -------------
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: December 08 2019 at 13:35
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One more: McKendrie Spring: "God Bless The Conspiracy" ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: December 09 2019 at 09:29
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Anybody growing up in Australia in the later 70's thru the 80's would remember Dragon, who were on of the top teenybopper hitmakers especially late in the 70's (and also a lifestyle whose debauchery was the stuff of legend), but they came over from New Zealand where they had two very weird albums in 1974-5. Ages ago I had the first one, 'Universal Radio' on LP. I could only remember snatches of the title track, but it's on Youtube. I wasn't sure if it'd qualify, as it starts off sounding a bit like The Dukes of Stratosphear, but then it goes into this sort of Santana meets Gong thing. It's pretty lame really, but anyone who only remembers 'Are You Old Enough' or 'Lives of Ordinary Men' should give it a listen. That is Marc Hunter singing as far as I know. |
Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: December 11 2019 at 23:05
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I usually find that if I hear an urban-style song that I like, it's usually Beck. So, I have actually started to listen to his music as he releases it. ------------- -John |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 12 2019 at 00:18
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"Inscriptie" by the Romanian jazz band Marius Popp off of the album Panoramic Jazz Rock, which I adore, and was recommended to me by one of the ex-posters at PA (Alex, aka harmonium.ro, who sadly hasn't been around in years): I was looking for specific kinds of music, and it was a right-on-the-money recommendation. I've been lucky to get many good recommendations over the years from various posters. The rest of the album is fairly standard, but very good post-bop and non progressive rockish jazz. As for other albums, it's straight jazz, jazz fusion, and some jazz-rock, but nothing else that I would imagine coming from a band to be included in Prog Archives. Talented band. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: December 13 2019 at 08:57
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This would fall (pun intended
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 13 2019 at 09:02
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I was forgetting this. Bassoon, Flute, Percussion, little keys and Voice. Lyrics which are a poetry describing a hot summer day. Francesco Guccini - Giorno D'Estate - 1972 ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 13 2019 at 09:07
| It's all Prog. If you think it's progressive then it, in fact, is. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 13 2019 at 09:16
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Giuni Russo featuring Franco Battiato (well, Battiato IS prog) - Strade Parallele - 1994 ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: December 13 2019 at 11:32
| Judas Priest - Rocka Rolla certainly had some prog undertones. In fact I sort of wished they had carried on in this vein instead of the heavy metal route. |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: December 14 2019 at 22:58
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A few other tracks from their later albums might count as well.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 14 2019 at 23:30
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I don't think this one has been mentioned yet. Who remembers this band(and album)? |