Albums You've Recently Changed Your Mind On
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Topic: Albums You've Recently Changed Your Mind On
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: Albums You've Recently Changed Your Mind On
Date Posted: December 20 2019 at 23:21
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Its pretty well known some prog can take a while to really understand or have it click. What albums, if any have you previously not been a fan of that recently clicked for you. For me Larks previously came off as too jammy but after a relisten this past week, I have come to love and appreciate the creative brilliance of it, especially larks part one. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 02:08
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Great topic. I've recently started to appreciate Judas Priest's whole catalog whereas before I was more of a casual fan. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 02:56
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I'd say the prog albums that have improved on me lately is The Yes Album, did a block post about Yes somewhere and in the process listen to all (70) albums several time (now a year ago i guess) and from being a Yes i did not listen to much, it has become one of my top Yes albums. ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 03:21
| Well, not recently, but in the nineties I couldn´t listen after Roger Floyd albums at all, but started to like them too somewhere 2000`s, although Roger´s period is still greater. All the way I have started to like some AOR-stuff I used to hate (I believe it´s something to do about getting older). |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 04:53
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The Cardiacs catalogue. I used to regard it almost all as unlistenable rubbish but, whilst it is a bit patchy, there are some real gems in there. Camel Dust and Dreams - I used to think that this was just OK, but since seeing them do several songs live, I've grown to really appreciate the whole album. Pendragon - every album from Believe onwards. I thought the change in style towards a darker, heavier sound was a mistake and didn't really listen to them that much. Repeated listenings have shown that they are actually very good indeed, though the trilogy from The Window of Life to Not of This World remains my favourite. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 05:51
| Threshold's latest double CD 'Legends of the shire' at first it didn't click with me but after many plays now I see it as a monster classic the works of brilliance and the best CD I have heard in years. I would have rated it 3 stars first listen now and more recently it's easily 5 stars. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 06:26
I do have this CD and bought it on the fact that it is a double concept album....I will spin tbis xmas... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Enchant X wrote:Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 09:21
| Not many, but there are some Neo-prog bands that did not impressed me in the past, and now I'm finding some interesting stuff in their music. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 09:53
I’ve always liked the live version of dust and dreams off never let go. Lots of memorable melodies. My two issues with the studio come in the production and filler tracks, nevertheless, the more latimer the better ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: December 21 2019 at 19:37
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For me this would definitely be Western Culture by Henry Cow. The first time I listened to it I found it work to try to like it, and really didn't very much. The second time I was like, "hey you know I kind of like this." Then the third time I was like, "Oh yeah." |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 22 2019 at 00:25
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Mike Oldfield's Amarok was a stinker for me, now I don't think it's that bad even if still not a favorite. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 22 2019 at 07:59
| I'm enjoying Nursery Crime more than I used to because the production bothered me---but the mix in the box set I have is well done. |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: December 22 2019 at 09:22
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This year I've been discovering the IQ albums of the 21th century. Usually it takes a while before an album really clicks. For instance; I heard The Road of Bones when it was released and though it was nothing new under the sun. Though not as innovative as Resistance, it's still a fine album. Same counts for Dark Matter and Frequenty. ------------- I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: December 22 2019 at 19:43
Still can't get into it. Where are the riffs and the hooks?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 23 2019 at 00:30
+1
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 23 2019 at 00:33
There is nothing normal about that album so it has to be taken on it's terms. It's a bit of 'mind fart' but then were are talking about one of the greatest music genius's of all time.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 23 2019 at 09:31
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Early albums by Midnight Oil and The Tubes. Both say that they were influenced by prog and I do hear the connection. Nothing to write home about but interesting all the same. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: December 23 2019 at 12:18
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Not particularly changing my mind as I'd never really listened properly before, but this year I've come to appreciate Misplaced Childhood, ITCOTCK and Karn Evil 9 after giving them a good listen. (notwithstanding some of the prolonged noodling on ITCOTCK!)
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 23 2019 at 12:21
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Ok adding thick as a brick to my list, really listened last night, damn sh*ts good ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: December 23 2019 at 13:01
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I used to mock a couple of friends of mine (and a female co-worker) who were/are like devoted to Iron Maiden, and well ... since I got a DIY Best Of one guy compiled & offered me ... I started really enjoying (a lot) that huge R'N'R beast - and had to swallow my tongue. |
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: December 27 2019 at 07:36
God, yes, the sound on Nursery Chyrme always put me off. Flat, thin. Trespass, before it, had a much fuller sound and more dynamic range. Unless I've just heard bad pressings. It's possible I guess. I have an original US pressing of Trespass which sounds fine, but I remember another version - Australian or British - which was rubbish. Sounded like they were from different masters, or more likely copies of copies of copies. ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 05:34
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Inspired by a discussion on Gong in another thread I'm reappreciating "You" now. I used to think that this offers me too little to get my teeth in, all this space jamming just sounds too "saucy", and I haven't listened to it much because of that. But I know that this is highly esteemed by many listeners with good taste and given that I love Shamal as well as many bits of the earlier parts of the Radio Gnome trilogy, and I'm a big fan of Pierre Moerlen, Didier Malherbe and the other musicians involved here, this brought me back to the idea that I really should love "You". Indeed listening consciously to the musicians' contributions rather than trying to get into this as a homogeneous whole helps a lot. No way I can ever let pass something with Pierre's drums unimpressed, Tim Blake also really shines here, not to mention Hillage, Howlett and Malherbe, although I have certain doubts that the album was meant to be listened to in this way. Anyway, I'm making good progress with it, although I doubt that I will ever rate it over Shamal. Probably putting Pierre higher in the mix would have helped me from the start. I always have difficulties with albums where the drums are held back in the mix (actually on "You" it's not everywhere, but the mix is generally somewhat uneven).
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 05:51
| ^When you are big Pierre-fan, I quess you have also heard Pekka Pohjola´s Keesojen Lehto-album? I really also love his playing, hard to say who is greater after Bruford, Pierre or Phil Collins. Also loved Michael Giles style a lot! In Finland both Ronnie Österberg and Vesa Aaltonen has had really great style! |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 05:58
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Hi, None really. I make sure that I do/have a good listen so that my thoughts and ideas do not change all the time, and I can not really name an album that ... gave me a hard time listening, but then it got OK ... I suppose that the first and last one in that area, for me, was Tangerine Dream's Phaedra ... when I heard it the first time, the piece Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares did not sit in well with my stomach ... but that was the last time that ANY MUSIC has had that effect on me ... I think, in general, that it opened up my thoughts and ideas about music, and that is a good thing ... and makes much more sense when you factor in the history of modern music in the classical areas ... TD, at that point, made a lot of sense ... something that not a lot of bands make at all, when the music is just another bunch of pop songs! ACTUALLY, there was one album, but it was quite different situation from "music" itself. FRANK PERRY's DEEP PEACE has two sides on stuff based on some Tibetan bells, and they are complete meditations and are also extremely difficult to stay with, but it wasn't a fear ... it was the stomach not wanting to get through this part or that part, which went away by the 2nd or 3rd time listening, and the trick is/was ... you have to teach yourself to meditate through it, regardless, and when that happens, you find that it is one of the prettiest and most exhilarating pieces of music ever done. Sadly here, all we can talk about is songs, and how we didn't like them then or vice versa ... heck, I still like ... had too much to dream last night ... or ... itchikoo park ... or nature's way .... endless list!
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 06:22
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I had previously dismissed Deep Purple's Come Taste the Band from '75 as pallid unconvincing funk but having just listened to it again after a gap of nearly 20 years, have to say it's a fail-safe fasting diet for morbidly obese cannibals. (and I adore Tommy Bolin's work on Spectrum) ------------- 
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 06:36
PA says this is the same as "The Consequences of Indecisions", which I have. Need to listen to some more Pohjohla anyway, thanks for the recommendation.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 06:54
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 09:23
I also think that’s a very solid album! Never understood the general displeasure with it. My only gripe is that Lady Luck and I need love are kinda clones of each other. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 09:53
I didn't used to like Van Der Graaf Generator, but several PA members sparked my interest in them and after buying their two previously unheard 1970 albums in November and then listening to them for the first time on Christmas Day, I've finally seen the light and realised the inherent electric potential in this charged-up prog band. 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 29 2019 at 12:43
That's quite funny, because we played that album a couple of hours after you made your post  . Count me in as a big fan of Come Taste the Band, one of the most underappreciated albums in the history of rock. Every time I listen to it I can't help wondering what Deep Purple MK IV might have produced if things had gone differently. Anyway, my favourite track(s) on the album is "This Time Around/Owed to G". Glenn Hughes' vocals are simply stunning there. Back to the thread's topic, it took me over 30 years to "get" Relayer. As in the case of Deep Purple, I regret that Yes lineup did not release at least another album. They were going in an interesting direction with Moraz on board.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 00:04
^ we agree on Relayer but not Come Taste the Band- hey ho, I suspect it's my ingrained expectations of the Mark 2 lineup that spoil my enjoyment of the album. Taken on its own merits, it really ain't a bad hard rock album. -------------
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 03:18
They took me a very long time to get into as well and there's still a lot they've made that doesn't impress me all that much, but I've at least gotten to the point where I can count Pawn Hearts as a personal favourite. Peter Hammill's voice in general is a taste I really had to acquire.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 05:02
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 07:03
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Trespass by Genesis has come up quite a few notches for me recently. Always liked the Knife but could never really get into the rest of it very much. now, I like it a lot. Would have been interesting had Philips not left the band. The music may have gone in a different direction. Not sure that would have been a good thing though as I like what Hackett brought to Genesis. I've also become something of a late bloomer Pink Floyd fan. Never gave them a second thought back in the 80s and the songs that made it onto the radio never sparked an interest in me. However, after exploring their early years and working upwards, I have a new appreciation for them. Finally, Porcupine Tree. When I first discovered them I liked the later more heavy music but couldn't get into the earlier stuff. That's changed now and I'm happily delving into their early and mid periods
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 07:42
| RPI in general was off my radar for years and then I took a deep dive and life hasn't been the same since... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 10:31
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Way back then (in the 90's) I suddendly understood what VdGG and GG were all about after 15 years of trying. A bit later in the decade, I changed my mind about Duke and ATTWT, which I had tried and detested, simply because they were not in the line of TotT and W&W. Not that I own them, but I respect those two albums (but not the rest of their later discography. Having heard part of the remix of Floyd's AMLOR that has been realized for Floyd's later years boxset, I could be changing my mind if they ever sell the new remix as a stand alone album. Indeed, from the three tracks that were made pubic, two new versions are a definite improvement (no miracle either), the third being neutral. But, adding more Mason and Wright will probably change this album from an OK solo Gilmour album to an OK (but no more) Floyd album. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 11:09
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 11:44
For GG, a good understanding of medieval music helps For VdGG, it's useful to see them play live (watching how Hammill sings, Banton dancing on his bench to pkay bass and understand what Jax is doing), and the Godbluff Live (Belgian TV) is what clicked it for me
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 11:51
| What helped me appreciate Gentle Giant more was seeing the video footage. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 30 2019 at 11:55
Me too..... both an 'acquired taste'....like smelly cheese. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 31 2019 at 06:20
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 01 2020 at 07:13
How can you not like Gentle Giant, they're the best...Well, I think they're up there anyway
you can't help what you like and what not, but personally I really love the intricate contrapuntal layering of melodies in many of their songs, sometimes teetering on the boundary between tonality and dissonance but always feeling like every note has a reason to be there and contributes to a bigger whole. I love Kerry Minnear's falsetto and Derek Shulman's theatrical yet somehow still soothing voice and I love them even more when they sing in harmony, and I also respect the fusion of elements from medieval and baroque music within a rock setting as opposed to the usual influences from the romantic period. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 01 2020 at 08:20
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 01 2020 at 08:49
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It's taken me fifty years to get into Van Der Graaf Generator, but I finally got there after buying their two 1970 albums in November and listening to them for the first time on Christmas Day.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 01 2020 at 10:27
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An album that I've recently changed my mind on is Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory. This album was actually my first exposure to Gentle Giant about 20 years ago. I received this album in error after having ordered Octopus. Because Octopus was the recommended album, and it was my intention not to get more than one album, The Power And The Glory had to be returned. Nevertheless, I chose to listen to the album before returning it to get an idea of what to expect from Gentle Giant. I didn't like the album at that time, but hoped that because Octopus was the recommended album, it would be more likely that I would like it. This turned out to be case, but I continued with having that as my only album until quite recently when as a result of the high praise given to Gentle Giant on this forum, I decided to re-evaluate my assessment of Gentle Giant. It turns out that after listening to The Power And The Glory a number of times, I quite like the album, perhaps even more than Octopus. I think I'm more receptive to The Power And The Glory now because I have a greater familiarity with Gentle Giant music so any strangeness no longer seems strange. Also, I think I was less receptive to The Power And The Glory 20 years ago because I had a motivation to dislike the album so that returning it would be easier. So it would appear that I've not given Gentle Giant a fair hearing, something that I'm currently rectifying.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 02 2020 at 02:46
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Albums that took a long time but finally clicked: Subterranea - IQ - got this when it came out, but only knew (and loved) the Menel-era albums up to that point, so the "new" vocalist sounded awful initially! So glad I persevered, and got everything else that went before...and since  The Similiude Of A Dream - Neil Morse Band - took it's time but has revealed itself as a beauty! And one I keep trying occasionally, thinking it will (because 99% of you on here rate it so highly), but it just won't: CTTE!
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Posted By: paisanojac
Date Posted: January 02 2020 at 14:38
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Inner Revolution by Adrian Belew. I was (still am) a big Adrian Belew enthusiast (I've seen him play a dozen or more times (Crimson, solo, Bears, Bowie, etc.), most recently a few months ago in Austin, TX). Anyway, I remember when this Inner Revolution album came out and I bought it immediately only to be quite disappointed with how boring and unmoving it was. I let it collect dust for 10 years before giving it another spin and WHOA! I loved it and have listened to it a bajillion times since then. Obviously those years in between had done something to me and I must have changed my perspective without knowing. If you're never seen his live show, I strongly advise you to check him out. He is amazing.
I didn't like Iron Maiden at all when I first heard them in the early 80s. Many years later my son had the CD of "Piece of Mind" and I listened to it. WOW! Like the "most interesting man in the world" commercials, I don't normally listen to metal, but when I do, I listen to Iron Maiden! (OK....Dream Theater too).
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Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: January 03 2020 at 18:15
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Honestly, I'd have to mirror your answer about Larks. It needed a few listens before I could truly appreciate it, but I got there. |
Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: January 04 2020 at 19:59
| I love Gentle Giant now but when I first heard them I wasn't so sure , its funny how the brain interprets music |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 05 2020 at 08:27
There is a huge difference between PH's singing and the majority of folks in top ten singing. The top ten folks, just for an idea's sake, are simply singing "NOTES", and sometimes it comes off like it is about the words and the music. In the end, a year or two later, you do not actually believe it a whole lot, and neither do you go back to it ... PH is not about "NOTES" ... PH is about his feelings and how he interprets them ... there is NOTHING FAKE or anywhere near ... just doing another song (like so many hit makers and stars!) ... in PH, and his voice merely interprets his feelings and emotions. You're not likely to see that on a top ten someone ... because it would be to "undress" that person way too much, and some of those women, it's about the teasing ... not the reality behind it, even if they were not who they think they are and try to make believe you know ... like a 30 something still trying to play the almost role of a teenager! That's kinda sick if you ask me .. it might be OK as a movie role but not as an advertising gimmick! I think that it is important to understand that "progressive" music is about "individuality" for the most part, and comparing it to what I call "cardboard" stuff ... will not help you understand it, or get close to it. The same thing falls into the hands of Christian Decamps, who is ... what MEATLOAF says in his book ... "I just happen to be an actor that sings!" ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: fronobulax
Date Posted: March 29 2020 at 16:59
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Gong, Radio Gnome Trilogy, which I guess is actually three albums. It wasn't until I caught a Youtube doc of them playing this stuff that I realized how super tight and actually fun this is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb74GWjcjeQ |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 08 2020 at 10:23
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Originally I didn't like the Queen album Hot Space at all, but I have gradually learned to enjoy it for what it is. It is by no means a great record, but if you accept the songs on their own premises, many of them are pretty solid within their genres. I guess people were just mad at them for not making a rock album (that is, an album within their comfort zone?). Even Roger Taylor and Brian May have been very critical of the album, and actually I think Brian May's songs are the weakest link on it. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 08 2020 at 15:48
| I'm just discovering and appreciate (at last ! ) the Pink Floyd albums. Jealous ? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 08 2020 at 17:17
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^ good God man... awe inspiring. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 09 2020 at 23:27
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 11 2020 at 02:30
| Ozric Tentacles - Spirals In Hyperspace. This was always a controversial album among fans so for a few years I just couldn't get into this album, I guess it's something to do with the sound, kind of harsh in your face. Now since I'm a big Ozric fan I didn't want to give up on it, so I tried bits of it every now and then, and it's only a few months ago that it finally clicked and I couldn't stop listening to it from then, excellent album. |
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: April 11 2020 at 04:02
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Ved Buens Ende - Written In Waters I had listened to 10 years ago and didn't like it. So after 5 years I listened to it again and still didn't like it. Recently, I picked it up again and... it clicked. But my taste has evolved over the last few years, so that's probably why. ------------- 
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Posted By: A Bard
Date Posted: April 13 2020 at 12:27
| Gentle Giant's Octopus, I used to not understand but after listening to it multiple times I can say I enjoy it, and Im still trying to understand The Power and The Glory. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 07:45
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None in the prog world. I gave Sweet Child by Pentangle a 4 star rating years ago, listened to it again, and no matter how many reviews claiming that this is a 5 star masterpiece, I just don't see it. So.. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: April 17 2020 at 06:50
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I think I'm starting to get a grip on Opeths Sorceress. Pale Communion is one of my favorites by them and I loved the new one but this one has alluded me. I'm starting to find a lot of strong material throughout. I think the key was to look at it as more of an Acid Rock/Prog rock album then just a straight prog album. And man, that title track is great. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: April 17 2020 at 08:25
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Tonite I will give Road of Bones a spin....I spun it once on purchase? And it didnt smack me in the face with a pair of tights filled with rotting fish....so I will try again...😎 ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: April 17 2020 at 08:26
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I love the first disc of that album, second disc hasn't exactly grabbed me yet but its alright, its just the bonus disc. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: April 25 2020 at 11:45
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I'm starting to learn to re-appreciate some of the Big Huge prog albums. In particular WYYH and ItCotCK are two albums that I at one point or another started dismissing as "entry-level prog" as part of some bizarre and misguided elitism. While both albums are still a far cry from being my favourite PF or KC album I've since gotten over myself and really begun to appreciate them for what they are. Conversely, my opinion on VdGG in general and Still Life in particular has soured. I don't mind PH's singing but his lyrics... man, they did not grow up with me, and the more vocal-dominated an album is, the harder time I have stomaching it.
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Posted By: foregonillusions
Date Posted: April 27 2020 at 10:46
Make sure to listen to it at night while alone for maximum atmosphere and smack'age.
Yeah, I agree that the second disk is less "seductive," with 1312 Overture and Constellations probably being the most immediately attractive songs. (Probably the most conventional IQ songs on the second disc?)
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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: April 28 2020 at 06:42
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