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Topic: What is the greatest act of trolling in prog?
Posted By: Rrattlesnake
Subject: What is the greatest act of trolling in prog?
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 22:01
For me it would have to be Coheed and #hairgate2018. Possibly the greatest prank any progger has pulled off. Well done, Claudio.



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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 02:55
I've read somewhere that Gentle Giant started playing prog thinking it would be a funny critique of the time. Turned out people took it way more serious.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 09:11
How about thick as a brick which was meant to be a parody of prog.


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 10:49
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

How about thick as a brick which was meant to be a parody of prog.
It was indeed meant to be.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 12:29
Any reference to the positive attributes of ELP's Love Beach?


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 13:51
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Any reference to the positive attributes of ELP's Love Beach?
I've never heard ELP's Love Beach, but my guess is the only good thing about it is the album cover. Wink


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 14:06
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Any reference to the positive attributes of ELP's Love Beach?
I've never heard ELP's Love Beach, but my guess is the only good thing about it is the album cover. Wink

I'm not sure I even know how to respond to that. LOL


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 14:14
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Any reference to the positive attributes of ELP's Love Beach?
I've never heard ELP's Love Beach, but my guess is the only good thing about it is the album cover. Wink

I'm not sure I even know how to respond to that. LOL
 
That one definitely has to be one of the worst covers in the genre.  My God What were they thinking?


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 14:16
When I think of trolling, I think of The Residents.  Intentional trollers maybe for a while, but getting serious every once in a while.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 15:28
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Any reference to the positive attributes of ELP's Love Beach?
I've never heard ELP's Love Beach, but my guess is the only good thing about it is the album cover. Wink

I'm not sure I even know how to respond to that. LOL
I was just being ironic, because in reality, the Love Beach album cover is probably as bad as the album itself. Smile


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 15:56
TAAB will always be the ultimate (and successful) prog rock troll attempt for me.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 00:30
Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

I've read somewhere that Gentle Giant started playing prog thinking it would be a funny critique of the time. Turned out people took it way more serious.
 

Perhaps it was a case of 'if you can't beat em join em'






Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 00:33
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

TAAB will always be the ultimate (and successful) prog rock troll attempt for me.
 

if you ask me Anderson was just keeping his options open. Tull were essentially a blues driven band that had more in common with Led Zep than ELP say. But the door was open to prog. If it had failed then Anderson could just say .. well it was just meant to be a piss take and the next album will be different. Little ole cynical me!


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 00:36
My vote goes to the Whirlwind....surely Morse can't really be stupid enough to completely miss the fact that evolution has nothing to do with chance?

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 06:14
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

I've read somewhere that Gentle Giant started playing prog thinking it would be a funny critique of the time. Turned out people took it way more serious.
 

Perhaps it was a case of 'if you can't beat em join em'





Prog was a very new thing at the time and I sincerely believe that they thought it would be interesting to experiment. I never talked to Gary Green about this specific thing but I'm pretty sure they thought they had the talent(which they did)and chops to pull it off and like I said they wouldn't have tried prog if they weren't interested. I doubt they saw it as some sort of game or joke.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 08:01
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Any reference to the positive attributes of ELP's Love Beach?
I've never heard ELP's Love Beach, but my guess is the only good thing about it is the album cover. Wink

I'm not sure I even know how to respond to that. LOL
I was just being ironic, because in reality, the Love Beach album cover is probably as bad as the album itself. Smile
See, see...I told ya!  Thumbs UpThumbs UpLOL


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 08:04
How about Genesis going pop in the 80's? LOL


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 08:44
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

How about Genesis going pop in the 80's? LOL
 
I agree. I went right off Genesis after the "Duke" album and their last album "Calling All Stations" didn't sound like Genesis at all to me. Confused


Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 09:52
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

My vote goes to the Whirlwind....surely Morse can't really be stupid enough to completely miss the fact that evolution has nothing to do with chance?


Really? I definitely wasn't paying any attention to that album's lyrics!


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 09:59
^ aye. The last track...fantastic music, sh*te lyrics..I try to ignore them but once something gets under your skin it irritates to the point of distraction....

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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 10:04
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

TAAB will always be the ultimate (and successful) prog rock troll attempt for me.
 

if you ask me Anderson was just keeping his options open. Tull were essentially a blues driven band that had more in common with Led Zep than ELP say. But the door was open to prog. If it had failed then Anderson could just say .. well it was just meant to be a piss take and the next album will be different. Little ole cynical me!


I think people have this weird idea that if you love something you must take it seriously, and if you make fun of something you must hate it. I think that's completely untrue; you can be passionate about a style of music but still be self-aware about the absurdity and contrivances associated with it.

I could totally believe TAAB was a parody, especially if you listen to the live versions from the time; 80 minutes long and they still didn't play about a quarter of the album. There are extended solos that go nowhere, the song gets interrupted by a telephone call, and absurd spoken word sections including a musical analysis and a news report as an interlude between the two sides. But still, it's clear to me that Anderson was trying to write enjoyable music with strong melodies and lyrics rather than throwing a bunch of garbage together because it's a "joke".

Same with Gentle Giant - I can totally see Acquiring The Taste being tongue in cheek especially considering the album cover (which is literally designed to look like a tongue entering a pair of "cheeks") and their pretentious declaration about the album's purpose. Still, you could tell that they were having a lot of fun creating over-the-top music.


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 10:14
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

How about Genesis going pop in the 80's? LOL
 
I agree. I went right off Genesis after the "Duke" album and their last album "Calling All Stations" didn't sound like Genesis at all to me. Confused

But that's not trolling, they were actually serious


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 10:43
Probably this thread

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Posted By: Rrattlesnake
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 15:50
oh my god this thread lol
I guess I should restate my example to get back on track

so everyone knows Claudio Sanchez from Coheed & Cambria has this big signature hairdo. Sometime in November 2018 he posted a photo on Instagram saying he cut it off and people were outraged. Claudio even kept it going in one of their concerts but at one point he was doing a solo and the hat flew off and the hair was revealed. The crowd went NUTS. Best prank imo.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 19:30
^ just giving you a hard time. When i have nothing relevant to add, i just crack jokes Clown


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Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: January 12 2020 at 01:35
From what I read online right before Tool's newest album was released (Fear Inoculum):

Someone from a major American department store claimed he'd gotten a hold of the album a few days before the release.
If you know Tool fans, you know everyone was dying to hear it and people were going insane about a potential leak.
Someone contacted the guy because, it turned out, the guy didn't have a way to put the album online himself, but he was taking photos of his hands holding the album, so fans knew it was the real thing.
Tool fans were going insane over the whole thing.
The person posting the pictures and saying he had the album stopped responding to messages about meeting up to hand over the album so it could be leaked.

Apparently, it was Maynard James Keenan holding the album the whole while. He obviously never intended to leak the album and was just messing with his fans and getting them all riled up. This guy is known for pranking his fans, so it wasn't the first he'd done it and it hopefully won't be his last.


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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 02:07
The greatest troll, eh?

Frank Zappa had to be one of the greatest trollers in history. Starting from the first Mothers album, almost everything with lyrics he's written has been one long trollfest.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 02:21
Fans of any band getting outraged by the lenght of a band member’s hair is insane

‘You know what? I could just never get into the new Tool album’
‘Why is that if you won’t mind me asking?’
‘Well James started wearing Nikes and it just killed the flow of the thing’

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 10 2020 at 02:01
Kansas


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2020 at 02:04
Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Kansas


Kansas trolled you?! How?


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 10 2020 at 13:45
I always think of the project "Stanley Snail," which trolled Yes, Bill Bruford's band etc.  

Stanley Snail was a one-off project for a Yes Tribute album comprised of  https://www.last.fm/music/Kevin+Gilbert" rel="nofollow - Kevin Gilbert  (Keys, Low Vocals),  https://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Keneally" rel="nofollow - Mike Keneally  (Guitars, Mid Vocals),  https://www.last.fm/music/Nick+DVirgilio" rel="nofollow - Nick D'Virgilio (Drums, High Vocals) and  https://www.last.fm/music/Bryan+Beller" rel="nofollow - Bryan Beller  (bass). Produced and Engineered by Kevin Gilbert.
They was a made-up band named after a mishearing of the lyrics to "Siberian Khatru" (Gold stainless nail being heard as "Go Stanley Snail").

The middle section of the original Yes song "Siberian Khatru" is replaced with a section of Sahara Of Snow from Bill Bruford's solo album One of a Kind.



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Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: February 10 2020 at 15:02
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I always think of the project "Stanley Snail," which trolled Yes, Bill Bruford's band etc.  

<p style="font-size: 16px; -sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: " Sans", "Lucida Grande", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Stanley Snail was a one-off project for a Yes Tribute album comprised of  https://www.last.fm/music/Kevin+Gilbert" rel="nofollow - Kevin Gilbert  (Keys, Low Vocals),  https://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Keneally" rel="nofollow - Mike Keneally  (Guitars, Mid Vocals),  https://www.last.fm/music/Nick+DVirgilio" rel="nofollow - Nick D'Virgilio (Drums, High Vocals) and  https://www.last.fm/music/Bryan+Beller" rel="nofollow - Bryan Beller  (bass). Produced and Engineered by Kevin Gilbert.<br style="-sizing: border-;">They was a made-up band named after a mishearing of the lyrics to "Siberian Khatru" (Gold stainless nail being heard as "Go Stanley Snail").

<p style="font-size: 16px; -sizing: border-; margin-top: 24px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: " Sans", "Lucida Grande", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">The middle section of the original Yes song "Siberian Khatru" is replaced with a section of Sahara Of Snow from Bill Bruford's solo album One of a Kind.



That's interesting! I didn't know that middle section was Bruford's


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 10 2020 at 21:13
Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I always think of the project "Stanley Snail," which trolled Yes, Bill Bruford's band etc.  

<p style="font-size: 16px; -sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: " Sans", "Lucida Grande", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Stanley Snail was a one-off project for a Yes Tribute album comprised of  https://www.last.fm/music/Kevin+Gilbert" rel="nofollow - Kevin Gilbert  (Keys, Low Vocals),  https://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Keneally" rel="nofollow - Mike Keneally  (Guitars, Mid Vocals),  https://www.last.fm/music/Nick+DVirgilio" rel="nofollow - Nick D'Virgilio (Drums, High Vocals) and  https://www.last.fm/music/Bryan+Beller" rel="nofollow - Bryan Beller  (bass). Produced and Engineered by Kevin Gilbert.<br style="-sizing: border-;">They was a made-up band named after a mishearing of the lyrics to "Siberian Khatru" (Gold stainless nail being heard as "Go Stanley Snail").

<p style="font-size: 16px; -sizing: border-; margin-top: 24px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: " Sans", "Lucida Grande", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">The middle section of the original Yes song "Siberian Khatru" is replaced with a section of Sahara Of Snow from Bill Bruford's solo album One of a Kind.



That's interesting! I didn't know that middle section was Bruford's

Yeah, that makes it even MORE nuts!!  BTW, I just read that Mike Keneally, who played guitar & sang on Stanley Snail, is joining King Crimson on tour!!  

https:///liveforlivemusic.com/news/king-crimson-north-american-tour-zappa-band/" rel="nofollow - https:///liveforlivemusic.com/news/king-crimson-north-american-tour-zappa-band/


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Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 02:48
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

TAAB will always be the ultimate (and successful) prog rock troll attempt for me.
 

if you ask me Anderson was just keeping his options open. Tull were essentially a blues driven band that had more in common with Led Zep than ELP say. But the door was open to prog. If it had failed then Anderson could just say .. well it was just meant to be a piss take and the next album will be different. Little ole cynical me!


I think people have this weird idea that if you love something you must take it seriously, and if you make fun of something you must hate it. I think that's completely untrue; you can be passionate about a style of music but still be self-aware about the absurdity and contrivances associated with it.

I could totally believe TAAB was a parody, especially if you listen to the live versions from the time; 80 minutes long and they still didn't play about a quarter of the album. There are extended solos that go nowhere, the song gets interrupted by a telephone call, and absurd spoken word sections including a musical analysis and a news report as an interlude between the two sides. But still, it's clear to me that Anderson was trying to write enjoyable music with strong melodies and lyrics rather than throwing a bunch of garbage together because it's a "joke".

Same with Gentle Giant - I can totally see Acquiring The Taste being tongue in cheek especially considering the album cover (which is literally designed to look like a tongue entering a pair of "cheeks") and their pretentious declaration about the album's purpose. Still, you could tell that they were having a lot of fun creating over-the-top music.


you don't really have to go that far. take a look on their next album, A Passion Play, what is the Hare part if not a troll/taking a piss moment??

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 04:10
I think some of the greatest artists remind us all that life is a play/game, and you can't take it too seriously.

Some of the most creative stuff comes from blasting through all preconceived boundaries.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 07:51
Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

The greatest troll, eh?

Frank Zappa had to be one of the greatest trollers in history. Starting from the first Mothers album, almost everything with lyrics he's written has been one long trollfest.

Yep...and I was just going to post the same thoughts.
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Posted By: thief
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 06:59
Mike Oldfield trolling Virgin Records comes to mind immediately.
First, they beg him to finally record a sequel to Tubular Bells. What they get is Amarok
Second, a while later he breaks up with Virgin, goes to Warner. First album released - Tubular Bells II.

xD


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 07:03
Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Mike Oldfield trolling Virgin Records comes to mind immediately.
First, they beg him to finally record a sequel to Tubular Bells. What they get is Amarok
Second, a while later he breaks up with Virgin, goes to Warner. First album released - Tubular Bells II.

xD
Mike Oldfield's last album for Virgin Records was "Heaven's Open" (1991). I wish heaven had opened up and swallowed that album whole because it's Mike Oldfield's worst album in my opinion. Confused


Posted By: thief
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 07:05
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Mike Oldfield trolling Virgin Records comes to mind immediately.
First, they beg him to finally record a sequel to Tubular Bells. What they get is Amarok
Second, a while later he breaks up with Virgin, goes to Warner. First album released - Tubular Bells II.

xD
Mike Oldfield's last album for Virgin Records was "Heaven's Open" (1991). I wish heaven had opened up and swallowed that album whole because it's Mike Oldfield's worst album in my opinion. Confused


Both things are true: Heaven's Open was his last Virgin album and, incidentally, it's the most god-awful piece of music he's ever done. But what I said is true as well! :)


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 07:28
Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Mike Oldfield trolling Virgin Records comes to mind immediately.
First, they beg him to finally record a sequel to Tubular Bells. What they get is Amarok
Second, a while later he breaks up with Virgin, goes to Warner. First album released - Tubular Bells II.

xD
Mike Oldfield's last album for Virgin Records was "Heaven's Open" (1991). I wish heaven had opened up and swallowed that album whole because it's Mike Oldfield's worst album in my opinion. Confused


Both things are true: Heaven's Open was his last Virgin album and, incidentally, it's the most god-awful piece of music he's ever done. But what I said is true as well! :)
I'm not a big fan of Mike Oldfield's "Amarok" album either. Smile


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 07:40
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I think some of the greatest artists remind us all that life is a play/game, and you can't take it too seriously.

Some of the most creative stuff comes from blasting through all preconceived boundaries.


far out maaan Thumbs Up


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