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Topic: Genesis to tour in 2020
Posted By: Hercules
Subject: Genesis to tour in 2020
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 11:14
Just got an e-mail from Leeds Arena: Genesis play there on Dec 2nd and start the your on Nov 16th.

Will you be going to see them on tour?

I saw Steve Hackett doing Genesis Revisited (brilliantly) in Nov, and I'm not sure if Genesis won't be a massive anti-climax.


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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 15:29
I think i'd rather see Steve Hackett again. Or see 'The Musical Box'. Or stay at home and just play the lps. But there is a little bit of me that looked at the dates... Hmm, Birmingham is on a Saturday! We could do that! Will I regret it if I don't get a ticket?? But then I go 'No, I think im happy with memories and the albums.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 15:37
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Will you be going to see them on tour?
Don't live near Ireland or the UK. Will be cool to see Phil's son on the kit, sure to be a stellar show. 


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 16:48
Not for me..... but those who like the pop years - fair enough!

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 16:52
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Posted By: Town Terrier
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 12:42
Booked to see, Steve Hackett at Bradford St George’s Hall in November and Genesis at, Leeds Arena in December. I reckon that as covered all the bases.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: March 26 2020 at 17:09
If Genesis can duplicate their playing abilities from 2006-2007 they’ll be in good shape and the fans will really appreciate it, however I’ve got my doubts just because every member of genesis look pretty damn old...I mean Phil Collins can barely walk for godsakes. 🤪

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 26 2020 at 17:59
I was too shaky because the  emotion when I filmed this:



No Hackett.....No Genesis

Iván


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 26 2020 at 23:02
Most prog Genesis fans(ie most on here) would probably be better off just seeing Steve Hackett or the Musical Box or one of the many other Genesis tribute bands(most of which seem to focus on the prog era). 


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 08:01
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Most prog Genesis fans(ie most on here) would probably be better off just seeing Steve Hackett or the Musical Box or one of the many other Genesis tribute bands(most of which seem to focus on the prog era). 

Hi,

If they do this, PG needs to come and so does SH, for a full hour or so ... so the fans get a real treat at what was once a great band. I might even have AP be the opening act, conducting a group of mice ... oopps ... people dressed as mice ... just for a fun joke. And do some real far out parts and pieces ... and hope that the audience appreciates the fun, and the music!

And for fun, SH, PC and PG need to be in that little "orchestra" and then take off their masks ... right after a few people boo after 10 minutes ... and have those people be escorted out!

Make the tour fun ... and give the folks something that they will remember for many years to come, instead of just a few hit songs!


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 15:09
A Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett reunion, would be more Genesis than anything the other three can do.

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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 18:13
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Most prog Genesis fans(ie most on here) would probably be better off just seeing Steve Hackett or the Musical Box or one of the many other Genesis tribute bands(most of which seem to focus on the prog era). 

100% agreed with this comment.ClapClap


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 19:40
They might do their Medley. That’s about as Prog as they get since the 80’s. Having said, I love The Way We Walk Volume 2 - The Longs.
I may get the DVD,
And then, it may get called off altogether due to one of them falling. Oh, falling ill, (or heaven forbid, something worse.....)


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: April 06 2020 at 12:04

The set list they did on their last tour was not very different from the one they did in the early 90's. If they tour again this year and playing more or less the same songs once again, it is going to be dull. However, if they change things up a bit and include some surprises it might be interesting enough.



Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 08:15
I must admit to being tempted but the ticket prices were horrendous... I was lucky enough to see them in 77, 78 and 87 so maybe better to hold those memories.  Phil Collins seems to be the main concern; we won't be able to witness one of the greatest drummers again and his health seems frail.  However, the band have dismissed the possibility of teaming up with Gabriel and Hackett (why would he anyway?)  Had they approached Ray Wilson they might have also righted a wrong...


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 08:27
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

A Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett reunion, would be more Genesis than anything the other three can do.

Hi,

After reading and seeing a few comments (that one from the guy in the studio specially!!!!) ... I'm almost inclined to think that PG would not be there, and that it is likely that he has lost his ability to sing a lot of things and he does not know how to adjust ... heck FZ's voice changed a full octave just about ... and he got more famous!

Ohhh heck ... we can't have the lawnmower song be RAPP'd can we? That would be fun, and throw the audience a curve ball and then some!

BTW, I think that SH is probably booked for the next several years and his joining a GENESIS this or that would be a problem, and not enough rehearsal time to get it right and proper ... (just a thought!)


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Posted By: sturoc
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 00:39
Having listened to and seen Genesis in their prime 1970s and then only one time later 3 Sides tour at Forest Hills stadium with that one being the final swansong for me and them, I think they are more than done.. I also worked several gigs with them in '92 and 2007 and have seen the toll touring takes on them firsthand.

Their later gigs became too heavy on huge scenic and production elements that bordered on trying to top whoever had just did a stadium tour.  Designs by Fisher Price who does most of the big A level acts when going 'open air' were starting to take on a " ok this is big but is it really necesary ?' look.
The prospect of a reunion let alone the trio going out again doesnt create a spark. They should leave well enough alone . Unless the trio are getting offered an unGodly amount of $ to do it - which may very well be the case.
That said as far as SH and PG showing up well they dont just show up and say "Hey lets play a song or two  you guys for the old days huh ? '  These are agreed to in tour advance planning . There are a load of legal /contractual issues to hammer out and then available dates if any. So while the audience may think its a surprise guest just for that show it is well planned in advance and thats if the two even want to and agree to any terms.
The experience of listening to old guys with back up musicians slog thru their catalog with a very fatigued Collins trying to sing like he did 30 even 20 years ago will not be pretty.

Stick with Steve Hackett's tours and you wont go wrong. There is still magic to be had on any given night with them.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 03:30
Originally posted by sturoc sturoc wrote:

Having listened to and seen Genesis in their prime 1970s and then only one time later 3 Sides tour at Forest Hills stadium with that one being the final swansong for me and them, I think they are more than done.. I also worked several gigs with them in '92 and 2007 and have seen the toll touring takes on them firsthand.

Their later gigs became too heavy on huge scenic and production elements that bordered on trying to top whoever had just did a stadium tour.  Designs by Fisher Price who does most of the big A level acts when going 'open air' were starting to take on a " ok this is big but is it really necesary ?' look.
The prospect of a reunion let alone the trio going out again doesnt create a spark. They should leave well enough alone . Unless the trio are getting offered an unGodly amount of $ to do it - which may very well be the case.
That said as far as SH and PG showing up well they dont just show up and say "Hey lets play a song or two  you guys for the old days huh ? '  These are agreed to in tour advance planning . There are a load of legal /contractual issues to hammer out and then available dates if any. So while the audience may think its a surprise guest just for that show it is well planned in advance and thats if the two even want to and agree to any terms.
The experience of listening to old guys with back up musicians slog thru their catalog with a very fatigued Collins trying to sing like he did 30 even 20 years ago will not be pretty.

Stick with Steve Hackett's tours and you wont go wrong. There is still magic to be had on any given night with them.



Oh I have my doubts as well if they can pull this off. Phil, the poor guy, can barely walk these days.


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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 03 2020 at 15:27
I wouldn't see them in the mid-to-late 80s 'cause they were long past their proggy prime - I wasn't going to stand in a sea of 35,000 waiting for the "long medley" then, so I certainly won't do it now.....but I did check the tour dates and prices, just for the halibut.  




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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 26 2021 at 16:23
Had this e-mail:

Genesis' concert originally due to take place in December 2020 and then rescheduled to April 2021 has been further rescheduled.

The rescheduled dates are Monday 20 - Wednesday 22 September 2021.

The event organisers have been in touch to say that:

"Due to this unprecedented and changing situation, it was not possible to go ahead with the show on Monday 5 - Wednesday 7 April 2021. Therefore Genesis' performance at Utilita Arena Birmingham on Monday 5 - Wednesday 7 April 2021 will be rescheduled to Monday 20 - Wednesday 22 September 2021. We’re pleased to have been able to reschedule so do hang on to your ticket – it will be valid for the new date."

no great surprise obviously


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 26 2021 at 16:45
They recently released a "rehearsal teaser" on YouTube. I think the stage looks cool.




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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 11 2021 at 14:17
Thats cool they got Curly from the 3 Stooges to cover the vocals. "Oh a wise guy eh ... nyet nyet nyet."


Posted By: Ghost Whistler
Date Posted: March 12 2021 at 09:28
This is painful. I wish Phil all the best, he was a phenomenal drummer in his time, and a decent singer. His backing vox complimented Pet's really well.

But this?

I'm not even sure he's going to be able last the night. His voice is shot - never mind pandemic related uncertainty.

This is hard to watch


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 00:42
Well it wasn't that bad. I went to the first gig in I don't know how long on Monday (National Indoor Arena , Birmingham - they used to film the Saturday night UK staple 'Gladiators' there!) and it was well enjoyable. Phil's son Nic is an excellent technical drummer and did his Dad proud. Seems to have all his Dad's licks off to a tee. Phil is clearly not in the best of health bit got through the night and did okay although struggled to keep up a bit on a few occasions. Genesis are the ultimate professional band and everything from a instrumental point of view was totally nailed. No great surprises in the set list which was mostly Duke onwards and included all the hits (bar Abacab which did surprise me). Highlights were Mama and a singalong to Carpet Crawlers at the end. They played the instrumental parts of Cinema Show and Firth of Fifth as well opening the show with Dukes Travels/End which was very nice. Overall a lot of fun and it was just nice to go to a gig!


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 03:17
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Well it wasn't that bad. I went to the first gig in I don't know how long on Monday (National Indoor Arena , Birmingham - they used to film the Saturday night UK staple 'Gladiators' there!) and it was well enjoyable. Phil's son Nic is an excellent technical drummer and did his Dad proud. Seems to have all his Dad's licks off to a tee. Phil is clearly not in the best of health bit got through the night and did okay although struggled to keep up a bit on a few occasions. Genesis are the ultimate professional band and everything from a instrumental point of view was totally nailed. No great surprises in the set list which was mostly Duke onwards and included all the hits (bar Abacab which did surprise me). Highlights were Mama and a singalong to Carpet Crawlers at the end. They played the instrumental parts of Cinema Show and Firth of Fifth as well opening the show with Dukes Travels/End which was very nice. Overall a lot of fun and it was just nice to go to a gig!



That is so nice to hear, Richard! Been a while since we ran into each other here on the forms. So glad you to experience Genesis live.
I’ve got that “the last Domino’” cd on preorder. Should be getting it in November. Cheers man.

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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 03:36
Thanks for the review, richardh.  I was very against the idea but once the reviews came in, I wished I had gone after all (I live quite near to Birmingham as well).  I saw them in 77, 78 and 87 and I suppose I was put off by the fact that Phil could not play drums any more.


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 04:27

Just like I expected, the set list is booring and predictable. It overlaps considerably with previous ones and holds no real surprises. Lots of stuff from the 80's and 90's albums, and only a few from the 70's albums.

The idea that someone here on the forum had to play one song from each album would have been a lot more interesting.


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 05:04
Meanwhile, we were at the second of Steve Hackett's three night residency at the London Palladium, which was awesome. Short first half with Amanda Lehman as additional guitarist (and vocalist on 'Shadow of the Hierophant). Long second half consisted of the entire 'Seconds Out' album with an encore of 'Dance on a Volcano'.

Spectacular musicianship all round (with Jonas Reingold on bass)


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 12:02
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Well it wasn't that bad. I went to the first gig in I don't know how long on Monday (National Indoor Arena , Birmingham - they used to film the Saturday night UK staple 'Gladiators' there!) and it was well enjoyable. Phil's son Nic is an excellent technical drummer and did his Dad proud. Seems to have all his Dad's licks off to a tee. Phil is clearly not in the best of health bit got through the night and did okay although struggled to keep up a bit on a few occasions. Genesis are the ultimate professional band and everything from a instrumental point of view was totally nailed. No great surprises in the set list which was mostly Duke onwards and included all the hits (bar Abacab which did surprise me). Highlights were Mama and a singalong to Carpet Crawlers at the end. They played the instrumental parts of Cinema Show and Firth of Fifth as well opening the show with Dukes Travels/End which was very nice. Overall a lot of fun and it was just nice to go to a gig!
That's great! Wish they were coming to the US west coast...This seems pretty normal for a first gig of a tour, working out all the bugs. I suspect the following shows will be better regarding his voice, I'm not surprised about Nic, turning out to be an accomplished drummer.
They WILL NOT play a heavy 70's setlist from NC, Foxtrot, SEBtP and ATOtT, that is not what made them gazillionaires. The majority of the fanbase does not even know any of those albums.


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 12:06
^Cry

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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: September 23 2021 at 02:55
I seriously considered crossing the North Sea just to see them but I ultimately decided that paying for a ferry ticket and a hotel in addition to the 100 UK pound concert ticket would be a bit too far outside of my budget. I wish a good time to anyone here fortunate enough to go!


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Posted By: timbo
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 13:51
Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

I seriously considered crossing the North Sea just to see them but I ultimately decided that paying for a ferry ticket and a hotel in addition to the 100 UK pound concert ticket would be a bit too far outside of my budget. I wish a good time to anyone here fortunate enough to go!

Go and see Steve Hackett instead, he’ll play all the Genesis stuff you’d prefer to hear, and the tickets are less than half the price (I saw yesterday and the ticket price was about £40.). He’s coming to the Netherlands in March according to his website.



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