Tangerine Dream - Encore
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Topic: Tangerine Dream - Encore
Posted By: BaldJean
Subject: Tangerine Dream - Encore
Date Posted: May 09 2020 at 19:27
quite simple: what is your favorite track?
mine is "Desert Dream", by the way. that track has a passage that I call "at the grave of the unknown soldier". if you listen to it you will certainly guess which passage I refer to
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 09 2020 at 19:53
BaldJean wrote:
quite simple: what is your favorite track?
mine is "Desert Dream", by the way. that track has a passage that I call "at the grave of the unknown soldier". if you listen to it you will certainly guess which passage I refer to
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This is an album that I enjoy from start to finish, but I understand what you are saying about "Desert Dream" and certainly know what part you are talking about. Simply sublime.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 09 2020 at 20:11
Going to dig this one out - had it for decades and used to spin it often. Need a refresher course on this one.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 09 2020 at 21:20
I actually think the track "Desert Dream" has 6 parts which I name this:
1) In the Ghost Town 2) Across the Desert 3) Sol caliente y fatamorgana 4) At the Grave of the Unknown Soldier 5) The Apparition 6) The Ghost Rider in the Sky
you can certainly see that my imagination runs wild for this track. my choice of Spanish for the 3rd part of the track shows that in my imagination I am in a Mexican desert
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 04:19
Right-ee-yo......It’s a toss-up (as opposed to toss-off) between Monolight and Desert Dream. I forgot Edgar’s attempt at being a ‘guitar-hero’ on Cold Water Canyon ha ha.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 06:30
Hi,
I don't have a favorite, and I know I went backstage to meet them in the Greek Theater show, and was excited about seeing TD for the first and second time, in less than 2 months.
The great highlight for it all is the Greek Theater shows, and you might not remember but in those days, TD had lasers in their shows and none other than the folks at Lazerium were running them ... and guess where Lazerium is centered? Right above the Greek Theater (Griffith Observatory). And one of the highlights in the show at the Greek Theater was the trees on fire along with the music.
April 26 1977 Santa Monica Civic (1st tour) (front album picture from one of these shows) July 12 1977 Los Angeles Greek Theater (2nd tour)(back picture of lasers in the trees, as if on fire)
Encore is recorded from the North American Tour in March/April 1977
I have never been able to decide which one I like better or worse ... I like them all and there is really no piece of music of theirs that I do not like. I'll skip this vote, but will remember very fondly and with great love, the wonderful feeling and memories, and one of those is going to the sisters for even considering their posting this ...
I visualize a lot of this stuff, but in many ways, while I can write poetry about it, rarely can I tell you what it is what I see, many times of which it is very far away, and difficult even to describe as it is not exactly "recognizable" in plain words. A strong part of my 2nd stage of dreaming.
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 07:10
Love all. Excellent album but I'll go with Desert Dream for its terrific many sections.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 07:23
Count me in for Desert Dream. It has that mysterious vibe I love so much.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 08:01
Tom Ozric wrote:
... I forgot Edgar’s attempt at being a ‘guitar-hero’ on Cold Water Canyon ha ha. |
Hi,
I like the yoke, however, EF was playing guitar long before the guitar worship days ... and his playing was not about the "lead" as much as it was about one other thread of music in the complete composition, and this was one of the reasons why he declined to play with DB eventually ... he liked to flow and not stop and he would be just doing a small lead and then out ... and it just wasn't in his veins to do something like that ... I have never felt like his guitar was there just for a "lead" ...
I wonder if the series will ever even try to have some EF "leads" on their juke box of over rated crap!
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 08:02
BaldJean wrote:
I actually think the track "Desert Dream" has 6 parts which I name this:
1) In the Ghost Town 2) Across the Desert 3) Sol caliente y fatamorgana 4) At the Grave of the Unknown Soldier 5) The Apparition 6) The Ghost Rider in the Sky
you can certainly see that my imagination runs wild for this track. my choice of Spanish for the 3rd part of the track shows that in my imagination I am in a Mexican desert
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Hey, if you ever want to come to South California, I know many places where to go in the beautiful Anza Borrego Desert, and we could also cross the border to Guadalupe Canyon in Mexicali, beautiful oasis, with amazing hot springs.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 08:06
Manuel wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
I actually think the track "Desert Dream" has 6 parts which I name this:
1) In the Ghost Town 2) Across the Desert 3) Sol caliente y fatamorgana 4) At the Grave of the Unknown Soldier 5) The Apparition 6) The Ghost Rider in the Sky
you can certainly see that my imagination runs wild for this track. my choice of Spanish for the 3rd part of the track shows that in my imagination I am in a Mexican desert
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Hey, if you ever want to come to South California, I know many places where to go in the beautiful Anza Borrego Desert, and we could also cross the border to Guadalupe Canyon in Mexicali, beautiful oasis, with amazing hot springs. |
I was actually born in California and lived there for almost the first 25 years of my life
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 11:41
The entire album is fantastic. I'll throw a vote to CC
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 11:44
Love the entire album but for this poll "Coldwater Canyon"
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 13:50
I think they get better and better from beginning to end. Part of the Desert Dream crowd.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 17:56
I love all of it. All four sides. But for the sake of casting a vote, it's Side B, "Monolight."
The last 4'30" or so is a charming piece that was released as the B-side of the "Monolight Part II" 7" single in the UK and France, titled 'Hobo March."
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 19:00
BaldJean wrote:
Manuel wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
I actually think the track "Desert Dream" has 6 parts which I name this:
1) In the Ghost Town 2) Across the Desert 3) Sol caliente y fatamorgana 4) At the Grave of the Unknown Soldier 5) The Apparition 6) The Ghost Rider in the Sky
you can certainly see that my imagination runs wild for this track. my choice of Spanish for the 3rd part of the track shows that in my imagination I am in a Mexican desert
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Hey, if you ever want to come to South California, I know many places where to go in the beautiful Anza Borrego Desert, and we could also cross the border to Guadalupe Canyon in Mexicali, beautiful oasis, with amazing hot springs. |
I was actually born in California and lived there for almost the first 25 years of my life
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OK. so you know what I'm talking about regarding the desert. It's quite a magical place.
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: May 10 2020 at 19:40
Listening to it now...perhaps for the first time
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 11 2020 at 08:40
I have and love the album but I can't remember which track I like best...
I would listen to it... but not right now
the last track I listened to was
Asa by Russian Circles
currently listening to
Ascend To Oblivion by God Is an Astronaut
next up is
Ascendant Here On by Steven Wilson
I think you get the picture :)
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 11 2020 at 09:49
I just posted the following in another thread, but it fits here too:
there is a real movie going on in my head during "Desert Dream". at
first I am in a ghost town on the edge of the desert. the new day is
dawning. I walk in and out of the houses, see the layers of dust, the
cobwebs, the general rot and decay. for some reason I decide to cross
the desert. at first this is no problem, but as the sun rises it gets
hotter and hotter, and I can hardly move anymore. there is a fata
morgana of a graveside with a wooden cross. I gather all the strength I
have left in fear of dying too, and I finally arrive at the graveside.
the sign on the cross reads: "unknown soldier. ?-1863". I bend forward
and touch the cross, and suddenly there is an apparition of a young
soldier in blue uniform. he speaks to me with urgency, but there is no
sound; I only see his lips moving. finally he gives up, turns and mounts
the apparition of a horse with which he rides away into the sky. I look
back at the cross, and it now reads "Joseph Baxter. 03-18-1843 -
05-20-1863"
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 00:27
I voted for Coldwater Canyon just to see all the tracks have equal votes! Its all a bit 'Meh' for me in all honesty. I much prefer the Poland live album that can much later. They never bettered that imo.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 01:05
How can you pick just one of the Richard Strauss Four Last Songs ?
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 07:20
moshkito wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
... I forgot Edgar’s attempt at being a ‘guitar-hero’ on Cold Water Canyon ha ha. |
Hi,
I like the yoke, however, EF was playing guitar long before the guitar worship days ... and his playing was not about the "lead" as much as it was about one other thread of music in the complete composition, and this was one of the reasons why he declined to play with DB eventually ... he liked to flow and not stop and he would be just doing a small lead and then out ... and it just wasn't in his veins to do something like that ... I have never felt like his guitar was there just for a "lead" ...
I wonder if the series will ever even try to have some EF "leads" on their juke box of over rated crap! |
I concur with Pedro here: I've never thought of Edgar's guitar as anything above or separate from the rest of the weave; in "Coldwater Canyon"--by far my favorite song from this album (which was, BTW, my first TD purchase back in 1977) I only hear a song tapestry, the instruments all equally contributing.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 13:30
richardh wrote:
I voted for Coldwater Canyon just to see all the tracks have equal votes! Its all a bit 'Meh' for me in all honesty. I much prefer the Poland live album that can much later. They never bettered that imo. |
While Poland is arguably their best live outing (it was my hands-down favorite for decades), it's a different animal in terms of technology and improv (a lot of material on Poland sounds "prepared"). I love both for what they are, i.e. sonic statements relative to the time period.
P.S. The unabridged '80 Palast der Republik concert is amazing, and IMO is near Poland in intensity if not variety. Killer sounds!!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 13:37
BrufordFreak wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
... I forgot Edgar’s attempt at being a ‘guitar-hero’ on Cold Water Canyon ha ha. |
Hi,
I like the yoke, however, EF was playing guitar long before the guitar worship days ... and his playing was not about the "lead" as much as it was about one other thread of music in the complete composition, and this was one of the reasons why he declined to play with DB eventually ... he liked to flow and not stop and he would be just doing a small lead and then out ... and it just wasn't in his veins to do something like that ... I have never felt like his guitar was there just for a "lead" ...
I wonder if the series will ever even try to have some EF "leads" on their juke box of over rated crap! |
I concur with Pedro here: I've never thought of Edgar's guitar as anything above or separate from the rest of the weave; in "Coldwater Canyon"--by far my favorite song from this album (which was, BTW, my first TD purchase back in 1977) I only hear a song tapestry, the instruments all equally contributing. |
If you guys want to hear Edgar burn a great guitar lead, throw on Side 1 of Underwater Sunlight. I love that solo. Check out "Magic Lantern" from his compilation Beyond the Storm.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 14:45
verslibre wrote:
richardh wrote:
I voted for Coldwater Canyon just to see all the tracks have equal votes! Its all a bit 'Meh' for me in all honesty. I much prefer the Poland live album that can much later. They never bettered that imo. |
While Poland is arguably their best live outing (it was my hands-down favorite for decades), it's a different animal in terms of technology and improv (a lot of material on Poland sounds "prepared"). I love both for what they are, i.e. sonic statements relative to the time period.
P.S. The unabridged '80 Palast der Republik concert is amazing, and IMO is near Poland in intensity if not variety. Killer sounds!! |
I've got Pergammon ( is that an excerpt of the concert you mention?) which is a sort of pre-version of Tangram. I do love that!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 17:00
richardh wrote:
I've got Pergammon ( is that an excerpt of the concert you mention?) which is a sort of pre-version of Tangram. I do love that! |
Pergamon (aka Quichotte) is indeed the same concert. But it was released in its entirety on two discs as part of Official Bootleg Series Volume Two on Cherry Red.
DISC ONE
PALAIS DES CONGRES, PARIS –
6TH MARCH 1978
1. PARIS SET ONE
DISC TWO
PALAIS DES CONGRES, PARIS –
6TH MARCH 1978
1. PARIS SET TWO
2. PARIS ENCORE ONE
3. PARIS ENCORE TWO
DISC THREE
PALAST DER REPUBLIK, EAST BERLIN –
31st JANUARY 1980
1. EAST BERLIN SET ONE
DISC FOUR
PALAST DER REPUBLIK, EAST BERLIN –
31ST JANUARY 1980
1. EAST BERLIN SET TWO
2. EAST BERLIN ENCORE |
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 12 2020 at 18:58
Pergamon is effing BRILLIANT !! Mixes a bit of Tangram in it too 👍🏼
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 15:16
Trust me, you want the FULL show!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 15:17
Just checked on Amazon and the CD is not available although I do have it in my streaming library so that's something.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 15:40
It's probably OOP.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 17:01
"Pergamon" was republished as "Quichotte". the two are musically identical
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 18:39
BaldJean wrote:
"Pergamon" was republished as "Quichotte". the two are musically identical
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Quichotte came first, on the East German AMIGA label in 1981.
The album was retitled Pergamon… for the 1986 Europeean (Virgin) and American (Caroline) reissues, with completely different artwork. It was reissued again in 1992 on Relativity/Sequel/Castle, and then Esoteric released a 2013 remaster with a 16-page booklet (still not the full concert).
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 20:13
verslibre wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
"Pergamon" was republished as "Quichotte". the two are musically identical
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Quichotte came first, on the East German AMIGA label in 1981.
The album was retitled Pergamon… for the 1986 Europeean (Virgin) and American (Caroline) reissues, with completely different artwork. It was reissued again in 1992 on Relativity/Sequel/Castle, and then Esoteric released a 2013 remaster with a 16-page booklet (still not the full concert). |
ok, so it was the other way round. but the fact remains they are musically identical. I personally like the Pergamon artwork better. the artwork of "Quichotte" somehow makes me think of a hand grenade, though it is probably only a closeup of headphones
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 13 2020 at 20:23
BaldJean wrote:
ok, so it was the other way round. but the fact remains they are musically identical. I personally like the Pergamon artwork better. the artwork of "Quichotte" somehow makes me think of a hand grenade, though it is probably only a closeup of headphones |
No question, and I also prefer the reissue artwork. I first bought it on cassette in '86. You can also hear the opening piano section performed by Johannes on the Wavelength soundtrack.
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Posted By: Boboulo
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 16:31
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 01 2020 at 19:04
All of them. This is one of my favorite Tangerine Dream releases. Not that many of their other 70s releases are too shabby either!!
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