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Topic: GG-themed Playing Cards?
Posted By: Woon Deadn
Subject: GG-themed Playing Cards?
Date Posted: May 19 2020 at 17:51
Not that it's something terribly unusual... 
As an eternal fan of Gentle Giant I have finally concocted something amateurish like this: 

Gentle Giant Playing Cards: 









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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)



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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 19 2020 at 18:12
Very amusing !! Great job 👍🏼


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 19 2020 at 18:18
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Very amusing !! Great job 👍🏼
 

Glad to hear it. Thank you! 


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 19 2020 at 18:37
Always cool to see Ray with his bass snd playing the violin !!


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 15:44
I had a lot of doubts about image placement, so to say. Who goes where? I don't play card games that much, I'm not a player of bridge, I don't play mainstream card games. For me spades is just a suit like any other. 

Kerry Minnear was my obvious number one. At first, I wanted Kerry and Ray - two main creators of music (and two main improvisers and virtuosi, probably) in the band - to be Jokers. Then I've realized it would hurt Derek, and Phil as the eldest one... it's somewhat disrespectful, I thought. 

To my brain, hearts is the greatest of all suits because of its clear symbolism of light and love, et al. 
So, I have simply reflected my ranking of the guys and their albums in the aces and face cards. Tens bear vague backgrounds of PTF and the last three albums of the band. 

I was going to create a computer program of some sort to play some card game. There, I thought, specific, unique cards may give an exotic feel to the product. 


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 15:56
Love it!

The playing card layout in the Steven Wilson version of The Power and the Glory is suberb, so I like your extension of the idea

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Songs cast a light on you


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 10:59
I am one of the happiest people on Earth the planet, as of now! 

Here we get it, the complete 54 card deck of GG-themed cards: 



I've finally made it! 

Tongue


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 16:55
Really good!!! Can I get a set?


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 01:29
Excellent work OP! Now we can "play the fool" together! Cool

What about a spin off of TPATG cards, like the ones they found on tour and based the album art off of - but with more GG themed images?!


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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 06:37
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Really good!!! Can I get a set?
 

Sure https://dropmefiles.com/549609" rel="nofollow - !  There's the archived folder. In that 7z archive you will find everything, outttakes, original cards that I modified and even the video that you've watched on YouTube. 

As of now, the cards are only in electronic format. I've never printed them on paper yet. 

Certainly, you may notice there are graphical flaws here and there. It was rather constructed as the draft, as the say it alpha version of what it should be. 

I am glad that there's not only me who enjoyed the result. 

ClapBig smile


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 06:42
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Excellent work OP! Now we can "play the fool" together! Cool

What about a spin off of TPATG cards, like the ones they found on tour and based the album art off of - but with more GG themed images?!
 

My biggest problem is that I love making sort of picturesque collages but I am not a painter in the least. I also like playing music but I don't have any knowledge on how to play properly. And if with music it more or less works at times Shocked, I don't have decorating skills. I'm not even a half-decent graphical designer, etc. 

So, now I'd better stop. Who knows what will happen even in the near future then?.. 

Thank you for your warm words! 


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 12:24
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Excellent work OP! Now we can "play the fool" together! Cool

What about a spin off of TPATG cards, like the ones they found on tour and based the album art off of - but with more GG themed images?!

Days had to be passed for me to realize that the national card game of the places I am from is called The Fool - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durak" rel="nofollow - Durak !  



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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:30
wow man...

that is geeked out even for prog fan standards... 

here..  have a B&J wine cooler salute..  oh I wouldn't touch one... but seems appropriate Beer


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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 00:59
Originally posted by Woon Deadn Woon Deadn wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Excellent work OP! Now we can "play the fool" together! Cool

What about a spin off of TPATG cards, like the ones they found on tour and based the album art off of - but with more GG themed images?!
 

My biggest problem is that I love making sort of picturesque collages but I am not a painter in the least. I also like playing music but I don't have any knowledge on how to play properly. And if with music it more or less works at times Shocked, I don't have decorating skills. I'm not even a half-decent graphical designer, etc. 

So, now I'd better stop. Who knows what will happen even in the near future then?.. 

Thank you for your warm words! 

You don't need a painter. You need a graphic designer. That's my second job. I do this stuff AAAALLL day! PM ME we'll kick around some potential ideas! Tongue


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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 13:56
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

You don't need a painter. You need a graphic designer. That's my second job. I do this stuff AAAALLL day! PM ME we'll kick around some potential ideas! Tongue
 

I think, there must be some ripe potential fruits. We'll discuss it, I suppose. 

Anyway, I can tell you all what has led me to such a situation LOL

I have invented a new card game called Knots. One may say, it has very complicated rules, though I'd say that bridge and especially his Russian colleague called preferans have much more complicated rules. 
What's my game like, if in short? 
Telling you without specific playing card games' terminology. 
Two players, 54 cards deck (Red joker, Black Joker), 27 cards given to each at once. Every player discards all jokers to which the opponent must discard one card for every joker. Then the turns begin. Each turn requires that one player (goer for the turn) puts one card - to which the opponent (beater for the turn) puts one, too. 25 turns per deck, that is. No trumps, no bidding. No winners or losers of the tricks per se. Simply, there're 10 points for every turn, each player gets its portion of 10 points according to the very obvious scheme: thus, if the beaters card is senior and of the same suit - the beater gets 10 points, the goer - 0 points; if the beater's card is senior but of the other suit of the same color - beater gets 6 points, goer 4 points; if the card is senior but of the other color - both get 5 points, et al. Then, at every turn, the balls are counted - the difference between the values of the played cards. The game lasts until one of the players reaches 1,000 points. Winner's gain is calculated so: twice the loser's points plus twice the winner's balls minus values of the cards left unplayed. 4 decks are used, as there are maximum 8 rounds possible. At rounds 3,4,7,8 cards of the players are mirrored (hello, bridge the sports!). 
While the rules seem complicated, believe me, they are very fair, just, honest, mathematically approved, whatever. For example, if one of the players, by luck or by cheating, gets all the senior cards of high values in all rounds, his/her victory is practically inevitable, but the winning score, winning profit would be rather miserable, as it depends on the points of the loser. On the other hand, if the player wants to spoil the party of the opponent that is rushing to victory by losing every possible thing - ther's a factor of winner's balls (no pun intended). Then, like in boxing, KO at the beginning of any round is not what the audience paid its money for - similarly, when the new deck is being played, it is better for a winner to play it to the end. 

All in all, I had an idea of creating a computer program of some sort to play versus computer's AI. There the unique set of cards would add to the atmosphere. 


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 29 2020 at 18:07
The program that would allow me to play my card game against the computer - part 1, the beginning of its making. 




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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 30 2020 at 01:47
I'll be back mid week next week with some rough design drafts for you, Wood! Thumbs Up Cool

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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: May 30 2020 at 08:24
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I'll be back mid week next week with some rough design drafts for you, Wood! Thumbs Up Cool
 

That's great! But I think I'll use my raw style cards for this game of mine. I am also going to create the same game for Sega Mega Drive/Genesis 16bit video game console (1989-1998, RIP). There it would obviously require very special skills, so it'll take me time to create the game with SGDK, as I have no desire to kill myself by using old day ASM. 


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 12:49
The game in full process




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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 15:02
I have lost the initial project due to software problems on my PC. Perhaps it was for the better, although I had to make the same tedious work again. 

As of now, the program plays a bit, like that. The product is not yet completed, for sure. 




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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 14:54
My work on the topic delayed somewhat for I haven't even completed the rules of the game. 

However, although it may look like pure showing off for showing off's sake, recently I decided to change the deck's conventions, as it were - not only the faces of the cards. 

The game is going to be GG-deck-specific and I am not from the English-speaking world, I am from the formerly-Soviet world of Eastern Slavs - hence my modifications of the names of some cards. 

Suits: 
 - Pins 
 - Ways 
 - Cogs 
 - Hits 


Values: 
2 - 10 
Valet 
Dame 
King 
Ace 

Black Ensemble 
Red Ensemble 

Russian names for Jack is Valet and for Queen is Dama, which have actually been borrowed from French long ago. In French it's Valet and Dame. 

Soviet media mostly used the French-derived word ansAmbl' for any music bands. So do I the original word ensemble for jokers.

Thus, I have paid some respect to my roots, totally removed the possible occult links. Pleased the French players, too. 


Ace Of Pins by Motorhead, King Of Pins by whoever painted the album cover for Gentle Giant... 


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 14:59
Originally posted by Woon Deadn Woon Deadn wrote:

Not that it's something terribly unusual... 
As an eternal fan of Gentle Giant I have finally concocted something amateurish like this: 

Gentle Giant Playing Cards: 








Shut up and take my money!


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 15:06
^ I'm at the stage of planning and designing. It's just raw sketches, not well-aligned, not well-thought. I had an idea of the playing card game probably called Knots and I wanted to create a special deck for it. 

As of now it's all uncompleted and exist only in electronic format. 

Anyway, I tried my best to make a concept of what it might be like. Perhaps I must return to the elder look of the playing cards when they all had undoubled, one-direction images. I don't know. But even in the pre-alpha-version raw design, yes, I agree, these cards look nice. 



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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 00:23
I still got you on designs bro I'm back next week we'll connect, I actually have drafts!

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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 04:44
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I still got you on designs bro I'm back next week we'll connect, I actually have drafts!
 

Many thanks. I think I must use the color photo of Tony Visconti (Eight Of Clubs), because even late Martin Smith has the color photo in the deck. It's kinda unprofessional of me to use the only black-and-white photo for Mr. Visconti for no obvious reason. 




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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Sllepty
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 16:53
I love this so much. Great work!


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: November 11 2020 at 13:43
My urge for breaking the old rules continues...

New suits for the GG deck of playing cards:




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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: November 12 2020 at 00:13
Hey bro I'm back PM me let's get it rolling! Cool

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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: November 13 2020 at 10:20
^ Thanks! I hope one day the new deck will see a commercial release so that everybody interested may buy it. 

I suppose that my ideas about changed suit signs, suit names, names of some cards... is too much for the start. 

I think, it must be the same suits, same names, same inscriptions on the cards. Just the GG-related images on each of them. 

Let's play the... knots, then Ouch


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Favourite Band: Gentle Giant
Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley
Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray
Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)



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