Fracture by KC ; Is Fripp a god?
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Topic: Fracture by KC ; Is Fripp a god?
Posted By: softandwet
Subject: Fracture by KC ; Is Fripp a god?
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:12
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What do you think about it? Isn't it marvelous? I wondered also, do you guys know if some band (from today or yesterday) did some songs like Fracture or the Lark's series? ------------- So don’t evade the surgeon’s blade Cos the answer could be in your mind Maybe one cut and we’ll find We’re just a wavelength behind But we are entwined And I know what you need |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:17
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Good song, but there are plenty of songs released in the last ten years that are better. |
Posted By: softandwet
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:35
Do you have any example? ------------- So don’t evade the surgeon’s blade Cos the answer could be in your mind Maybe one cut and we’ll find We’re just a wavelength behind But we are entwined And I know what you need |
Grumpyprogfan wrote:Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 11:29
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My favorite KC song. A god? No. A wizard? Probably. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 11:48
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Fripp a god? Of course. Only gods create things and Fripp created Symphonic prog. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 11:53
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Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 12:31
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Fracture is a notoriously difficult piece for guitar players. Fripp himself said it was "impossible" to play in a 2016 interview. ------------- "Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar." |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 12:32
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Yes he is..... ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 12:48
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 13:04
| IMO one of the best and most dramatic prog pieces ever, always thought of it as a prog school. It contains a rare balance between meticulous writing and free playing, Starting with the arrangements and masterful ideas, From the drumming to Fripp's phenomenal guitars and Wetton's brilliant bass lines, it's in a league of its own. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:22
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I like Fracture but it isn't even in my top 10 fave KC songs right now. ------------- Bez pierdolenia sygnał zerwie, to w realia wychodź w hełmie! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:29
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Definitely the highlight of SABB, though not my favourite KC piece. Fripp is incredible, but no ‘God’. |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:32
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Fracture is very good, but still down the list of his best material. Starless remains the pinnacle for me. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:37
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Its semi-sequel "FraKctured" from TCOL is equally daunting on
guitar (IMHO), both as a guitarist for over 35 years and having seen
Crim perform FraKctured live several times. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 17:37
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I once saw a video clip of Fripp playing the guitar bridge to Fracture, with Bruford playing "drums" on the back of a wooden chair. It might have been filmed in a hotel room. Bruf's "clickety-clack" playing was remarkable, and perfectly in sync with Bob's playing! I know Bob personally, he is no God and would not like being discussed in those terms. However, he ranks as one of the most inventive and creative musical geniuses of history, up there with the big names like Mozart, Beethoven, Bartok etc. IMHO. He invented his own guitar tuning (new standard tuning) because he found the old E-A-D-G-B-E tuning to be "limiting" and "arbitrary." He applied advanced jazz techniques like cross-picking and chordal shapes to rock music, which was (at the time) very much based upon American Blues concepts. In the 1980s, he brought out the Roland GR-300 guitar synth to the masses in "Discipline," and was a pioneer in guitar sound looping (Frippertronics and Soundscapes). The list could go on. Did he write the best, most beautiful songs in the prog universe? Nah, probably not, except for a few like "Starless." Did he shake the music world, numerous times? No doubt. Thanks, Bob! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 18:57
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Yes ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 20:15
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Great track by Fripp and KC...not their best though ............ and Bill Murray is a god. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 20:34
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I like the song quite a lot, I would call it marvelous......but in noway is Fripp a god -------------   
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 20:36
| He's not a god. He's a mad scientist. I actually heard a radio dj call him that once. |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 20:55
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22265" rel="nofollow - Sometimes God hides ... After scratching my head for 15 minutes, I just cannot think of another song/artist similar to Fracture. Pretty unique stuff! Except... this, of course: BTW, this version with re-recorded (and real) drums is much better than the 2000's version on V-drums, IMO.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 06:12
| Robert Fripp is a genious guitarrist and composer, no doubt. A God? Depends who you are asking. |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 10:31
Not a particularly good rendition, and not played with a guitar pick doing cross picking, as Fripp did. Watch the series "Failure to Fracture" to better understand the complexities of playing it. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 10:37
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While I prefer melodic players such as latimer, Fripp can probably dunk on any guitarist on the planet when it comes to that super windy picking style hes known for. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 10:55
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Here's Robert and Toyah performing (and dancing to) Fracture. <chuckle> |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 11:13
He probably can, but I really don't like his guitar playing one bit. I've listened to Fracture and I really don't enjoy it at all. Give me Hackett, Rothery, Gilmour, as well as the one and only Andrew Latimer, any day of any week. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 00:42
Fripp and Bill Murray are both gods. And can I throw in Frank Zappa. He and Fripp both incredibly gifted artists without who would we even have prog rock?
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