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Interactive Poll XIII - Surprise, surprise

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Topic: Interactive Poll XIII - Surprise, surprise
Posted By: Lewian
Subject: Interactive Poll XIII - Surprise, surprise
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 06:54
This is the surprise poll... well, actually it may not be a surprise, because I have announced its theme already, it's surprises!
What I mean by this is these moments when we come across some music that we don't know that totally surprises us. Maybe because of its quality, and we didn't know the artist before and heard it on radio or TV randomly, maybe because it is a way of doing music that we couldn't have imagined before, or maybe also because an artist who we knew already did something totally different from what we expected. That may be good, but it may also be a shock at first - you can propose something that surprised you at first in a bad or in a "I don't know WTF this is about" way, but of course this poll is about great music, so in that case I'd assume that you later managed to get into it. It may also be something that you heard in a totally surprising setup (I was stunned getting to know Swans in a local bike shop in London and a few days later when I went there to get my repaired bike back, they played some other phantastic music that I hadn't known before).

So musically this can be very eclectic, and of course you don't need to necessarily try to surprise the others by your choice... maybe something came completely out of the blue to you in 1990 and developed into a style that by now everybody knows... doesn't matter, it qualifies if it has been a surprise to you.

Optimally suggest the very song that surprised you (but I'll bend this rule a bit for my own, see below, so there's some room for interpretation).

We stick to the "not listed on PA" rule. Everybody can nominate one and we got into the habit of posting alternative selections, which tends to overload me, so maybe stick to one plus one alternative... but obviously eventually everybody will post whatever they feel  like posting anyway...

I'll wait for nominations until end Friday and then on Saturday will start the poll. As usual, everybody has three votes; and don't vote for your own suggestion.

According to mathman's great interactive poll links thread, this should genuinely be poll number 13. If that's an issue with you, tough luck. I heard that the University of Bologna  (scientists of all people!) opened their Departments of Psychology and Statistics on the same day because before they had twelve, and at no time they wanted to have exactly 13. Given the general confusion, I could've easily hidden the true number, but no, live with it!

Thinking about what I propose, I realised that actually quite a few of those that I had already posted or mentioned had such a surprise effect on me - Astor Piazzola, Rokia Traore, Scorn... all came to me unexpectedly and I hadn't known such music is possible and can work... Here's another big one. I heard them playing this in a music TV show in the early eighties that I wouldn't watch regularly. I didn't even think before that the show was very good, but then came up Swiss duo Diethelm/Famulari and absolutely gobsmacked me with a brilliant performance of something I had never heard before. They did this thing live with guitarist Thomas Diethelm using a delay to repeat his own phrases and playing duo with himself plus drum machine plus the stellar keyboard playing by Famulari; sounds much more than two people at the same time, doesn't it? But it really sounded pretty much like this live.  Actually I slightly cheat here because if I remember it correctly they played three tracks in the show, and this was the second one. The first one already surprised me but this one was even better. Actually they should be on PA but I'd suspect hardly anyone here knows them (apparently the album was a hit in Chile).



Very curious of what you come up with!
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 06:55
PS in case anybody stumbled across an earlier version of this poll... I had some issues and needed three attempts to get this how I wanted it. But this one is hopefully fine.


Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 07:19
Guys & Gals

It became certain yesterday that we're going to our summerhouse in a couple of days. 

I'll not have unlimited internet connection there. It will be like 10GB a month, that I'll use via my mobile phone, mostly for my work which requires the usage of the internet.

I also mentioned earlier that I'll have to concentrate on my work.

So, not only I'll not be able to take part in this awesomeness, but also I'll not be a poll creator for an indefinite period of time.

Please accept my apology...

All the best to you, have fun.

Özgür


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 08:26
Thank you, Lewian, for this definitely surprising category!  Clap

I'm sure I'm not the only one (esp from the US) who has Gomer Pyle's "Su'prise, su'prise, su'prise!"  echoing in their mind's ear at the title.  No triskadecaphobe am I, in fact I was a little disappointed to realize I wouldn't have the poll number.  Probably a few others amongst us as well.  Off to ponder potentials.  


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 08:27
Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Guys & Gals

It became certain yesterday that we're going to our summerhouse in a couple of days. 

I'll not have unlimited internet connection there. It will be like 10GB a month, that I'll use via my mobile phone, mostly for my work which requires the usage of the internet.

I also mentioned earlier that I'll have to concentrate on my work.

So, not only I'll not be able to take part in this awesomeness, but also I'll not be a poll creator for an indefinite period of time.

Please accept my apology...

All the best to you, have fun.

Özgür
  I am sure I'll not be the only one to miss your participation, but of course real life always takes precedence over online life.  Enjoy your summerhouse as much as you can, and will look forward to your return when that happens.

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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 08:42
Thank you dear Nickie. I'll have enough megabytes to see what you're all doing, perhaps also post plain text messages, I guess.

I might even lurk and wait for the opportunity to attack Pedro. Star J/K

Have fun, y'all. Heart


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 08:53
LOL

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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 09:08
@Lewian: Clever! The surprise was a surprise. I'll have to take some time think of something appropirate.

@Nickie: Yes, I definitely had Gomer echoing in my head. Now, how to make it stop!

@Özgür: We'll miss your contributions. Enjoy your time at summerhouse. Having limited Internet is not a bad thing too. 


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 09:09
Hi,

Still one of the greatest surprises I have ever heard ... magnificent album, progressive to the core, Spanish to the core ... but a band from LA?

You gotta be kidding me ... and one night they blew out David Bowie and Jethro Tull ... who immediately took the bass player, ending their incredible set of albums.

Carmen - Fandangos in Space

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=carmen+fandangos+in+space&&view=detail&mid=09AEBF6C12F013610EB409AEBF6C12F013610EB4&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcarmen%2Bfandangos%2Bin%2Bspace%26qpvt%3Dcarmen%2Bfandangos%2Bin%2Bspace%26FORM%3DVDRE" rel="nofollow - https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=carmen+fandangos+in+space&&view=detail&mid=09AEBF6C12F013610EB409AEBF6C12F013610EB4&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcarmen%2Bfandangos%2Bin%2Bspace%26qpvt%3Dcarmen%2Bfandangos%2Bin%2Bspace%26FORM%3DVDRE


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 09:13
Nice to have your contribution here Pedro! Well, I can kind of guess what's going to happen if I tell you that technically this poll is about songs and not whole albums, so I won't. We'll happily live with this (although I cannot promise that everyone will listen to this in its entirety). Wink


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 09:15
Also, Carmen is on PA. Good album!


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 09:49
Özgür, hope you enjoy your vacation, even if a short one! We'll miss you, but you'll still find us here when you come back Wink!

Anyway, this is going to be difficult... At the moment,  I can't think of anything that surprised me music-wise - not because it never happened, but because my memory is not working as well as it shouldLOL. I'll try to come up with something nice.


Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 09:58
^ Thank you Geo (mathman0806) and Raffaella (Raff). You're so kind.

It will be a long vacation, and if I don't take the preschool teaching job this year, it may be a very long one too. As my real job (book translating) grants me the freedom to be wherever I like. I love city life too, perhaps we'll come and go whenever we wish.




Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 10:13
Note: Air - "Radian" is my nomination, see bottom of post.

- Ozgur, I'm sorry you won't be participating this round, but I might not feel too bad for your for having a summerhouse to go to. That is if it is just a little vacation, and not some need to go to the area (repairs, family situation etc.). It's always a hassle and work when making such trips, and taking care of a property can be a major headache.

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I thought of a few surprises. My biggest surprise involved an Australian band. My brother was friends with band members in Cairns, I moved there for a year when I was 19. They had their own bar, and I was a bartender (but not there, that would be too much coincidence). ;). The night before I came back to Canada, my brother and I went see that band, Johno's Blues band live at their bar. In fact, the band's "Don't Knock the Croc" was the first thing my brother played on a jukebox on my first day in Cairns. When I got back home to Vancouver I put on the radio and "Don't Knock the Croc" was playing. Hey, don;t knock the coincidence even if it sounds like a crock of kaka. While that was a hit in Australia, I don't remember it ever playing here before or after. My other big coincidence surprise was at about the same time. I had just bought the CD of Kate Bush's The Kick Inside and was listening to it for the first time. At the same time I was reading (I liked to multi-task) a wonderful book about Paul Theroux's travels around China called Riding the Iron Rooster. Kate Bush has a song called "Strange Phenomena" on it and I was hearing it for the first time which is about strange coincidences. At the exact same time that the book mentioned the Buddhist chant "Om Mani Padme Hum", Kate Bush started singing the chant. If I had been the superstitious type, I might have seen this as some sort of revelation. I've heard less compelling to me coincidences put forward by superstitious types as evidence for the supernatural. I did have some interest in the paranormal for sure.

I'm going for what seems a lesser coincidence as my surprising choice even if it's not amazing in any way. I had just got into a dark BBC comedy radio series from writer Chris Morris called Blue Jam from the 90s (this wasn't very long ago and I found it on archive.org and an rss podcast feed -- I never heard it on the radio), and each episode combined rather surreal, psychological and sometimes grotesque sketches with songs (very dark comedy). One of the songs in one of the Blue Jam episodes was Pulp's "Dishes".

Pulp's Dishes has been a quite popular song that I had heard before, but I, being a pattern seeking animal, have thought before that quite a lot of that could refer to me, and yes, of course this is quite absurd, but still, and none of it is that surprising: The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes. Oh, and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible, and get those dishes clean, anything is possible.

Anyway, I very rarely listen to music on the radio now, but in the car I put on the radio (the night before I had listened to the Blue Jam episode that played the Pulp song), unusually tuned it to a music radio station (normally I just listen to the news or use bluetooth), and what was on? If you guessed Pulp's Dishes then you are correct. Having recently fallen for Blue Jam as much as I did, it did feel fairly significant.

I guess plenty will know it already, but here is the song:

Pulp - "Dishes"



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EDIT: Oh wait I had a bigger and freakier,or not necessarily freaky but beautiful, experience with another song from around the same time, the Eels "Beautiful Freak". After listening to this this past year this has also came up in a seeingly coincidental manner, and also in a more I could have expected it expected manner. I did a topic on 90s poppy and alt/ indie music, and this got mentioned when I was planning to list it next. The song also featured in Blue Jam. With Eel's Beautiful Freak I am coincidentally both beautiful and a freak, the beautiful part might be the most surprising of all. Or freakishly beautiful one might say even if conventionally very attractive and desirable.




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This was the choice that first came to me. I was really surprised to like Air's 10 000 Hz Legend album as much as I did. It became my favourite by Air despite having having dismissed it before as inferior to both the Moon Safari and Talk Talk albums (which I loved). I had read many bad reviews of it and internalised those before hearing it (biased me). When I first heard it (but I guess I wasn't really listening properly --maybe distractions) I had it in my head that it was bad, and in a topic at PA I was hypercritical of the album. Years later I did decide to buy the album and I loved it immediately and said to myself, "What was wrong with me?". It;s also because I do very obsessed with certain albums sometimes, and so anything different will not appeal, and I was so into other Air at the time. I still feel embarrassed about having been do dismissive of it in an Air topic that I created. I was careless and judgmental and had clearly not listened properly nor was I perhaps in the right "headspace" at the time. Hey, we all get things wrong sometimes, but it was my air of arrogance and dismissiveness that bothers me. I like to say that we all have biases, but try to keep an open mind and open ears (Doctor, heal thyself!)

"Radian" is one I loved best from it.

This is my current nomination (its alternated between all three of these choices):



That and "Sex Born Poison". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGDb7Ce8mrg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGDb7Ce8mrg

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 10:20
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

@Lewian: Clever! The surprise was a surprise. I'll have to take some time think of something appropirate.

@Nickie: Yes, I definitely had Gomer echoing in my head. Now, how to make it stop!

@Özgür: We'll miss your contributions. Enjoy your time at summerhouse. Having limited Internet is not a bad thing too. 
LOL @ the Gomer earworm..... LOL

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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 10:21
Thanks Greg.

Ah, by the way. It actually will not be a vacation, hahah. We stay in our summerhouse in winter too. I'll be working very hard, till September. Perhaps I'll take a short vacation, after that. In summer our summer place is a goddamn crowded place, but in winter, like a ghost town. Sometimes I go out, and see literally nobody during hours of walk. (Which is great, if not all the time) Also, we seemed to have to stay in Ankara (the capital of Turkey) till recently, so this is why I dreamt of all the stuff of being a poll creator and all. Haha.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 10:28
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes." Oh and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible. 

Shhhhhhhhh I have a secret to tell you Shhhhhhhhhhh

I call this my nightly miracle.  I turn water to wine every night.  Switch your water glass to a wine glass and .......voila!

ShhhhhhhhhWink

Also I think we have spoken of coincidences in other places (no coincidence there!).  Paranormal?  Angels?  Some other kinds of signs? Complete accidents?  Who knows.  All I know is, they happen.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 10:37
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes." Oh and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible. 


Shhhhhhhhh I have a secret to tell you Shhhhhhhhhhh

I call this my nightly miracle.  I turn water to wine every night.  Switch your water glass to a wine glass and .......voila!

ShhhhhhhhhWink

Also I think we have spoken of coincidences in other places (no coincidence there!).  Paranormal?  Angels?  Some other kinds of signs? Complete accidents?  Who knows.  All I know is, they happen.



One might say that such coincidences are bound to happen, and, say for the conspiracy theorists, the more one looks for certain patterns the more one will be prone to confirmation bias. Last night I watched a program on Donald Trump and conspiracy theories on CNN. I used to be convinced that I had ESP, and I remember our talks about coincidences and other strange things.

"There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). And by a not coincidence, I played Hamlet in a play called Haunted House Hamlet.   I liked to fancifully tell the story that I wore a codpiece made of real cod when playing Hamlet, but it died and fell off as I failed to water it, and I should have gone with, say, a blowfishpiece or a suckerfishpiece.

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"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence" (Hitchens) and those who dismiss things too easily can be easily dismissed (Logan).


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 10:41
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Shhhhhhhhh I have a secret to tell you Shhhhhhhhhhh

I call this my nightly miracle.  I turn water to wine every night.  Switch your water glass to a wine glass and .......voila!

ShhhhhhhhhWink

This reminds me of some math humor:




Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 11:05
Haha, that's good humour. Clap


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 11:17
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


One might say that such coincidences are bound to happen, and, say for the conspiracy theorists, the more one looks for certain patterns the more one will be prone to confirmation bias. Last night I watched a program on Donald Trump and conspiracy theories on CNN. I used to be convinced that I had ESP, and I remember our talks about coincidences and other strange things.

"There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). And by a not coincidence, I played Hamlet in a play called Haunted House Hamlet.   I liked to fancifully tell the story that I wore a codpiece made of real cod when playing Hamlet, but it died and fell off as I failed to water it, and I should have gone with, say, a blowfishpiece or a suckerfishpiece.

I had mentioned elsewhere (not here, elsewhere, but another site entirely), that I feel that the people who are not protesting peacefully in Portland, are indirectly responsible for 45 feeling he can get away with bringing in the Feds without a by-your-leave from local and state government.  Or, maybe directly, as in being supporters who have come in to discredit the peaceful protesters, and therefore more or less in cahoots with 45.  I do tend to try to avoid that kind of thinking and prefer to consider what one can do to counteract what one disagrees with (ie peaceful protest, or at least, at my age and abilities, being supportive of such peaceful protest).

That is hilarious, about the codpiece.  When I lived in Santa Cruz, they used to put on the Miss California pageant every year.  A peaceful protest began where, in a parade, women wore elabourate costumes made of meat (long before Lady Gaga thought of it). The Myth Kalifornia march had Ann Simonton at it's forefront.  Here's an article from the local entertainment paper about it, in 1986.   https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/the-f-word/" rel="nofollow - https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/the-f-word/


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 11:18
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Shhhhhhhhh I have a secret to tell you Shhhhhhhhhhh

I call this my nightly miracle.  I turn water to wine every night.  Switch your water glass to a wine glass and .......voila!

ShhhhhhhhhWink

This reminds me of some math humor:


LOL I might have to appropriate that for one of our prog chat groups that talks a LOT about beer.



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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 11:58
Dvar - Gyandarvaal



I stumbled across this some years ago and thought: WTF, but I really love it. It's very quirky. Dvar are from Russia, and they keep their identities secret. This has lead to many speculations about who they are (one of the more famous being that it was really the secret project of Michael Jackson!). They also claim that the music is communicated to them in dreams from a giant bee called Dvar.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 12:23
This is one of my favorite albums. It's not just one of my favorites, it's one of those albums that I consider an absolute masterpiece (I say this rarely) from every point of view, beyond my personal tastes. 



I bought it on the French island of Corsica (it is called the island of beauty), where traditional folk music groups sing medieval polyphonic songs that were sung in medieval Italy. The "corse" language is an Italian dialect, and it belongs to the Romance languages, and originated from the Renaissance Tuscan (around 1300 a. C), especially from the city of Pisa, with Genoese, and even Mediterranean influences of the most disparate, from the Calabrian to Moroccan. It resembles the Sardinian language, which is a real language, derived directly from Latin, especially for the frequent use of the "U" but in reality, deriving from the Italian of Tuscany this similarity is only a convergence. 

The polyphonic Corsican groups perform choral songs "a cappella" or with few instruments, and resemble Gregorian chant, that is to say the sacred songs of Italy but in reality they have developed a very special, endemic form. 

The Corsican language if read is very understandable for an Italian (but not for a French) and the father of the homeland (Corsica), Pasquale Paoli, who defended Corsica from the French, said that the "corse" is only a vulgar language of Italian (and he was right). The oral Corsican language is not so easily understood for an Italian, especially because of the polyphonies but when I read a text written in "corse", I understand almost everything. I am from Northern Italy, and I understand the language of the Corsica better than the language spoken in Napoli (Naples) or Sicilian.

A Filetta group is one of these polyphonic Corsican groups, and perhaps the best. I had already listened to choral songs by Muvrini, perhaps the most famous Corsican group, and by Vitalba, and I liked them very much, both for singing and for the melodies. The instrumental arrangement was not or was minimal: drums, acoustic guitar and perhaps nothing else. 

Then here's the SURPRISE. 

I buy this record, where the group A Filetta plays together with an Italian jazz musician, Paolo Fresu (Sardinian, that is the island of Sardinia, attached to Corsica), a great trumpeter, and flugelhorn player, and also together with a true classical composer, Daniele di Bonaventura, bandoneon player .... what do I listen to? 

SURPRISE: a fusion music: the polyphonic choral folk of A Filetta together with the jazz trumpet of Paolo Fresu and the tango bandoneon of Daniele di Bonaventura. 

What music is this? Folk + polyphonic vocals + jazz + tango? 

It is in my opinion a very refined, high quality syncretic music, which creates a unique and intense, truly intense atomosphere. Enjoy it, I hope it will be a real surprise for you.

EDIT: I VOSTRI SGUARDI is the first song of this fantastic album DANSE MEMOIRE, DANSE. I discovered A Filetta by listening to their song which, I say it from now on is my nomination. 

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--- Since then I have searched for their songs as much as possible, and I have bought other albums by internet, they are always beautiful but not exceptional like this one. 
On youtube I found many of their songs, including this one that expresses well the intensity with which they sing.






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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 13:36
Back when this album came out I was anticipating it greatly and I was so excited the first time that I heard this was when it was played on the radio.  I couldn't believe how heavy it was.  Anyhow, nothing that most in this thread will appreciate, but it meets the goal of surprising me.



But we are going for non-PA bands, so I will have to give this some more thought.  Hmmm.something outside of prog that surprised me.  Confused


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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 13:53
^ That was the first Rush song I heard, it was on Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2. I only became aware of them some years later though.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 14:07
that's interesting.. the more so outside the lines of prog where the whole name of the proggame is discovery and finding those surprises

 I'd like to think I have a rather subtantial immersion and wide range in tastes in music in general and in that I suppose I have for it was really hard to think of something that truly surprised me.... blindsided me...

well.. until it wasn't..  for even though I can really only think of one example. It truly was a 'surprise'

was knocked completely sideward.. and I wasn't the only one... I had never heard of him.. after this. .everyone knew of him.

https://gogo.promogogo.com/announcement/Remembering-Bruno-Mars-Super-Bowl-Performance/4e6f1c2b" rel="nofollow - https://gogo.promogogo.com/announcement/Remembering-Bruno-Mars-Super-Bowl-Performance/4e6f1c2b

but if one needs a slong suggestion specfically.. once he did this song..  became a permenant occupant of my mobile player







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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 15:28
OK, after some brain-racking, I've decided on three songs I discovered thanks to my dear other half. They are all relatively well-known, but - unlike most of you - I am not very likely to come across some new, impressive music by mere chance. I don't watch TV, nor do I listen to the radio - which limits opportunities a lot. Anyway, all these songs are rather different from what I normally listen to.

First one is an example of dance music that one can also listen to - I do like to "shake it" on occasion, and the very cool video does not hurt either:



Second choice, a rather very well-known song by Bob Welch-era Fleetwood Mac:



And last but not least, a haunting song with a very sexy video:






Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 15:36
you go darling Heart..  yeah... perhaps in another 10 years you'll post your favorite Willie Nelson song hahah

yeah. the World Clique album shakes about 558 asses. 


and I'd say the Welch years were in fact their best years


and good God I love Chris. that voice .. actually I was a bit surprised you got into him












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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 15:45
You guys rock and roll! Keep the surprises coming! Özgür, have a good time! You're always welcome!


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 16:14
Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album.

I am still contemplating an alternate.  I'm torn because the piece I most want to use doesn't have anything of it in particular, on YT.  I know that dropbox works here, am I allowed to make a copy of it from my own collection and paste it here?  I do own the LP (and CD), just for some reason that one by the artist doesn't appear anywhere on YT.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 16:37
hahaha.. oh that one got a rise out of Raff Nickie.. she was bustling about when I clicked on that and she asked..


what is THAT..

and meant I suspect in a very good way.. loving it myself


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 16:44
This one, which is made by a British musician/ comedic actor (I like a lot of his music and shows he has worked in), initially surprised me when I first heard certain vocals come in at 2:45 --please play from earlier (with questionable lyrics).



This is my favourite track off the album, by the way (tres proggy):



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 16:45
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahaha.. oh that one got a rise out of Raff Nickie.. she was bustling about when I clicked on that and she asked..


what is THAT..

and meant I suspect in a very good way.. loving it myself
  Oh, hooray!!!!  I get very frustrated by yours and Raff's suggestions, because I usually know them and love them already.  I'm glad I got one by both of you that you didn't know, it surprises me when you don't, as we parallel so many (except for Raff's Italian ones, which are usually new to me, and also hit a good nerve).

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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 16:45
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Özgür, have a good time! You're always welcome!


Thanks man!


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 16:50
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahaha.. oh that one got a rise out of Raff Nickie.. she was bustling about when I clicked on that and she asked..


what is THAT..

and meant I suspect in a very good way.. loving it myself
  Oh, hooray!!!!  I get very frustrated by yours and Raff's suggestions, because I usually know them and love them already.  I'm glad I got one by both of you that you didn't know, it surprises me when you don't, as we parallel so many (except for Raff's Italian ones, which are usually new to me, and also hit a good nerve).

too funny....yeah.. you got me there with that one.... but by a hair

Funny just very recently had I read of that album.. sounded like something I would dig .. and had meant to check it out.  

Mission accompllshed in that thanks to you Clap.. oh yeah..  I need to hear the whole thing now


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 17:01
before I dive back into what everyone has posted so far...

let me riff on the surprise part of this..  I don't know about you all.. but I'll find (and have so far) why you might have been surprised to be as interested as whatever you choose.

For me ..  being surprised ...  a hard notion. I don't think it comes from being open-minded or not..  I just think for me it is lack of expectations I put on anything I hear.  So if I like it.. great.. if not..  oh well

so for me.. modern popular music is probably the closest thing to being at a point where I am close minded. I don't write it off as crap as some do.. I just don't relate to much of it...  doesn't hit me in the chest.. or the head.  Mars though..  what a talent as a musician, peformer, and songwriter..  he most certainly was a surprise because I not expecting to like him..  or even to not like him... I didn't expect anything at all but to perhaps be bored. LOL


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 17:12
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

but I'll find (and have so far) why you might have been surprised to be as interested as whatever you choose.

 

Good point!
Diethelm/Famulari surprised me by sheer quality where I didn't expect it, but that wasn't the only thing. I hadn't been prepared for Diethelm's guitar playing (using the delay to play duets with himself), and the whole thing has such a wonderfully relaxed free flying atmosphere being at the same time very intricate and sophisticated. It didn't sound like anything I had heard before. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 17:18
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


One might say that such coincidences are bound to happen, and, say for the conspiracy theorists, the more one looks for certain patterns the more one will be prone to confirmation bias. Last night I watched a program on Donald Trump and conspiracy theories on CNN. I used to be convinced that I had ESP, and I remember our talks about coincidences and other strange things.

"There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). And by a not coincidence, I played Hamlet in a play called Haunted House Hamlet.   I liked to fancifully tell the story that I wore a codpiece made of real cod when playing Hamlet, but it died and fell off as I failed to water it, and I should have gone with, say, a blowfishpiece or a suckerfishpiece.


I had mentioned elsewhere (not here, elsewhere, but another site entirely), that I feel that the people who are not protesting peacefully in Portland, are indirectly responsible for 45 feeling he can get away with bringing in the Feds without a by-your-leave from local and state government.  Or, maybe directly, as in being supporters who have come in to discredit the peaceful protesters, and therefore more or less in cahoots with 45.  I do tend to try to avoid that kind of thinking and prefer to consider what one can do to counteract what one disagrees with (ie peaceful protest, or at least, at my age and abilities, being supportive of such peaceful protest).

That is hilarious, about the codpiece.  When I lived in Santa Cruz, they used to put on the Miss California pageant every year.  A peaceful protest began where, in a parade, women wore elabourate costumes made of meat (long before Lady Gaga thought of it). The Myth Kalifornia march had Ann Simonton at it's forefront.  Here's an article from the local entertainment paper about it, in 1986.   https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/the-f-word/" rel="nofollow - https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/the-f-word/


A very interesting point about 45. In the documentary it was all about how 45 has appealed to, perpetuated and cited conspiracy theorists (such as Alex Jones), and propagated conspiracy "theories" (I use theory in a non-scientific sense). It's sad how easily people can be manipulated, deceived, have negative biases reinforced, and how utterly irrational people can be.I do in part blame the education system for not putting enough emphasis on teaching children how to think critically. As is often said, a good teacher doesn't teach what to think but how to think. Questioning is often not encouraged, and certain parents and lobbyist and special interest groups make it harder for the teachers who do wish to expose the students to things such as rational scientific inquiry and principles of reason generally (and epistemology generally). But I speak as something of a cod philosopher, codpiece and all.

I remember hearing about the meat dress, and have had issues with beauty pageants myself -- PETA would have preferred tofurkey or some such thing (a Vegan protest). Women, burn your meat bras. I like my brassieres well-braised. I'm glad that no one let the dogs out "Woof, woof, woof" (unless I missed that bit), that would spell trouble. An interesting link (to the article, not to the links of sausages I mean), which I have only skimmed so far.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:06
SURPRISE: THE ACOUSTIC VERSIONS OF BORN IN THE USA.

Everyone knows Born in the Usa. The original version, a hymn song, few chords with synth and hammering drums, which may seem like a nationalistic anthem, and in fact Reagan tried to take possession of it ... 


But Born in the Usa is a protest song, it is a suffered blues which narrates a nation of losers, and its true sound, the one in which the music is consistent with the text, is that of an acoustic blues, born for the album Nebraska (acoustic album, in fact a demo released in full dance music era, 1982), but rejected because considered ... too out of context. 

The demo version that was to put on Nebraska was published on Tracks, the collection of the most beautiful Springsteen outtakes. Here it is: 




The years go by, and Springsteen writes The Ghost of Tom Joad, a semi-acoustic album of protest songs. He goes on tour alone, vocals, acoustic guitar, harmonica and live churns out a new acoustic version of Born in The Usa, even more beautiful than the original demo. 
Here it is:



The years pass, and returning together with the E Street Band Springsteen in Live in NY City he publishes another acoustic version of Born in The Usa, here it is:




What a surprise these versions and above all, what a huge beauty to listen to them!
Which is the best in your opinion? In my opinion they are three priceless masterpieces.




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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:23
@Nicki

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album.

VIDEO REMOVED


Interesting sound.
It resembles Japanese songs, which makes me think that Homo sapiens passed through the Bering Strait, and in fact the Native Americans they look like features to Chinese, Mongolians and Japanese.


@Raffaella
I love the firsts three or four albums by Chris Isaak.
Wicked Game is wonderful.




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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:26
Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Guys & Gals

It became certain yesterday that we're going to our summerhouse in a couple of days. 

I'll not have unlimited internet connection there. It will be like 10GB a month, that I'll use via my mobile phone, mostly for my work which requires the usage of the internet.

I also mentioned earlier that I'll have to concentrate on my work.

So, not only I'll not be able to take part in this awesomeness, but also I'll not be a poll creator for an indefinite period of time.

Please accept my apology...

All the best to you, have fun.

Özgür

Good vacation, my friend.



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:32
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I thought of a few surprises. My biggest surprise involved an Australian band. My brother was friends with band members in Cairns, I moved there for a year when I was 19. They had their own bar, and I was a bartender (but not there, that would be too much coincidence). ;). The night before I came back to Canada, my brother and I went see that band, Johno's Blues band live at their bar. In fact, the band's "Don't Knock the Croc" was the first thing my brother played on a jukebox on my first day in Cairns. When I got back home to Vancouver I put on the radio and "Don't Knock the Croc" was playing. Hey, don;t knock the coincidence even if it sounds like a crock of kaka. While that was a hit in Australia, I don't remember it ever playing here before or after. My other big coincidence surprise was at about the same time. I had just bought the CD of Kate Bush's The Kick Inside and was listening to it for the first time. At the same time I was reading (I liked to multi-task) a wonderful book about Paul Theroux's travels around China called Riding the Iron Rooster. Kate Bush has a song called "Strange Phenomena" on it and I was hearing it for the first time which is about strange coincidences. At the exact same time that the book mentioned the Buddhist chant "Om Mani Padme Hum", Kate Bush started singing the chant. If I had been the superstitious type, I might have seen this as some sort of revelation. I've heard less compelling to me coincidences put forward by superstitious types as evidence for the supernatural. I did have some interest in the paranormal for sure.

I'm going for what seems lesser coincidence as my surprising choice even if it's not amazing in any way. I had just got into a dark comedy radio series called Blue Jam from the 90s (this wasn't that long ago), and it played a lot of music on the show. One of the songs was Pulp's "Dishes". A quite popular song that I had heard before, but I, being a pattern seeking animal, have thought before that quite a lot of that could refer to me, and yes, of course this is quite absurd, but still, and none of it is that surprising.... The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes." Oh and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible. Anyway, I rarely listen to music radio now (even if Blue Jam was a sketch comedy series for the radio that heavily incorporated music), but in the car I put on the radio (the night before I had listened to the Blue Jam episode that played the Pulp song, and what was on, but Pulp's Dishes (and its station I very rarely listen to). Having recently fallen for Blue Jam as much as I did, it felt fairly significant.

Greg, have you read the latest book published by Carl Gustav Jung? Let's say its a sort of autobiography. 

In the end he talks about many paranormal events that he cared for, revealing many background stories of his life and interpreting them with the keys of the analytical psychology that he had formulated which, in fact, is also inspired by myths, religions and mystical wisdoms.




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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:35
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Guys & Gals

It became certain yesterday that we're going to our summerhouse in a couple of days. 

I'll not have unlimited internet connection there. It will be like 10GB a month, that I'll use via my mobile phone, mostly for my work which requires the usage of the internet.

I also mentioned earlier that I'll have to concentrate on my work.

So, not only I'll not be able to take part in this awesomeness, but also I'll not be a poll creator for an indefinite period of time.

Please accept my apology...

All the best to you, have fun.

Özgür

Good vacation, my friend.



Thank you, Lorenzo.

Big hugs to you all. Hug


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:37
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Nicki

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album.

VIDEO REMOVED


Interesting sound.
It resembles Japanese songs, which makes me think that Homo sapiens passed through the Bering Strait, and in fact the Native Americans they look like features to Chinese, Mongolians and Japanese.


@Raffaella
I love the firsts three or four albums by Chris Isaak.
Wicked Game is wonderful.


  Yes!!!!  And I agree so much on the connection across the Bering Sea and think that there are possible lingual roots in common, although I do not know for certain.  It is very sweet sounding to my ears.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:38
Going back to my previous way of doing this, first here are my thoughts on all so far, and will add another in a group as more chime in or those here chime in with more. 

Lewian:  Diethelm “Famulari – Portrait”  Really intriguing mix, the sound itself is almost like it’s being suppressed (not like compressed, however), sort of like it’s being played in a room down the corridor from the listener.  It is more upbeat than what usually makes me stop everything, but I certainly think it IS surprising, in one of your senses of describing how you mean this poll to be approached.  What is really surprising is that I don’t immediately know how I feel about it, so it will draw me back, probably a few times.  😊

The Anders: Dvar-Deii CD2 01 “Gyandarvaal”  Love the slow build of the organ beginning the piece.  There is a feeling of psychedelic circus (in a good way) to me as the song picks up with the calliope sounds.  Then sort of a maniacal elfin voice comes in, cheeping and chattering, ending abruptly.  Did someone stumble on their party in the dark woods, forcing them to disappear?

Lorenzo:  A Filetta  Danse Mémoire, Danse “I vostri squardi”  Very brooding and lush.  Gorgeous harmonies (as should be expected from your description), and I love when the horn comes in, it is suitably mournful.  “Sumiglia,” your nomination.  Begins with a keening solo, joined in with the other voices as a subtle backdrop, this one gave me chills.  Bravo to them and to you for bringing it here.  The acoustic Springsteen’s of “Born in the USA”  the beauty of a singer/songwriter (even a rock one) is that the songs can be stripped to their basics and they still have their true character, sometimes, even more so in the simplicity of it.  I like the echo-y sound of the guitar and also on his voice on the demo….then he sort of reprises that, on the 12-string live, but not quite so much.  I prefer this live one to the demo, he is such a good, good live performer.  The third one (also live), the beginning work with the slide sounds almost raga-ish, this is my favourite of the three.

Rushfan4:  Rush “One Little Victory”  Obviously, I am familiar with Rush, so waiting to hear your selection of a non-PA band.

Micky:  Mark Ronson “Uptown Funk”  Not usually in what might be thought of as in my oeuvre, but this is very infectious, and I did grow up listening to a lot of funk and soul music, which my mom adored.  And I quite enjoyed all of your responses to Raff's, being familiar with all of them.

Raff:  Deee-Lite “Groove is in the Heart”  I remember when this record (and the video) was really big here in the states.  Great dance/soul music.  (edited, I'd mixed up yours and Micky's videos by accident)  Fleetwood Mac “Hypnotized” Nice laid-back sound in this era of Fleetwood Mac, lots of airplay, making a bridge from the more blues-based Peter Green version to what would eventually morph into the enormously successful version a few years later.  Chris Isaak “Wicked Game.”  This song kind of rivals what happened with the Moody’s (“Nights in White Satin”) with the time between first release to smash hit land a bit later, with this video being released after it’s placement in David Lynch’s “Wild At Heart.”  Very sensual video, two beautiful people.  And a just drop dead gorgeous spare and haunting arrangement.  Chris deserved it and more, he’s a great guy and worked hard at his craft.

Logan:  Matt Berry “Rain Came Down” Completely not expecting what I heard vs the LP cover.    “The Pheasant,” I rather liked more, with it’s sorta psych-folk-proggishness.  But the first one was certainly a surprise, although not as much to my taste.



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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:40
My biggest surprise came way back sometime around 197?.  One of the first 8-tracks that I could call my very own was Steve Miller Band's "Fly Like an Eagle".  I loved that song and album so much, that it sparked an interest in his music, but I honestly thought (back then) that it was his only album.  It was a year or two after that, that I finally purchased "The Joker" and totally expected the same basic thing as FLaE.  I was a little disappointed, at first, until I heard the instrumental break on "Shu-ba-da-du-ma-ma-ma-ma".  That exciting build up, the amazing bass solo, the tension build up to the explosive guitar solo, all of this was something I wasn't expecting, and by the time I heard this, I was pretty much fully immersed into music, so it was a huge shock for me then.  Here is the clip:

ExclamationThe Steve Miller Band - "Shu ba da du ma ma ma ma"


EDIT:  The above is my official pick for voting.

Imagine yourself hearing this the first time and not knowing anything about Steve Miller's pre-FLaE material.  Well, soon I was loving this album and searching for all of his back catalog.  The most surprising one is my alternate clip as it is very odd on the first listen and may not be to the liking of a lot of people, but it is 100% psychedelic, space-acid-trip music, but probably the most shocking thing I have ever heard from Mr. Miller's band.  At first listen, I thought it was trash, but over the years, I have grown to appreciate and love it.  

The Steve Miller Band - "Jackson Kent Blues"



Anyway, I have been pleasantly surprised a lot over the years with music, but Steve Miller's back catalog always had the most hidden surprises and treasures than any other artist in my opinion.  Maybe it's because he was one of my first favorites, but it's music I still love to this day.


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 18:43
Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Guys & Gals

It became certain yesterday that we're going to our summerhouse in a couple of days. 

I'll not have unlimited internet connection there. It will be like 10GB a month, that I'll use via my mobile phone, mostly for my work which requires the usage of the internet.

I also mentioned earlier that I'll have to concentrate on my work.

So, not only I'll not be able to take part in this awesomeness, but also I'll not be a poll creator for an indefinite period of time.

Please accept my apology...

All the best to you, have fun.

Özgür

Have fun and stay safe!

Watch out for stray kender!


 




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 19:02
This was a hard one for me. Not sure if I'll have any alternates later. Part of the problem (as Raff had mentioned for herself earlier) is memory. I am sure I have been plenty surprised at the time, but now wouldn't recall. 



So, heard this song off a music sampler CD. Reading the brief description, I didn't think I would like it (I was listening more to alt rock like Jane's Addiction, Smashing Pumpkins, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden at the time), and the idea of a techno/house music band making songs from Hendrix samples seemed strange. But, surprise, I liked it. It was a chill reworking of "If 6 Was 9" with guitar added from "Voodoo Chile" and some vocal samples. Got the CD and the album ended up being one of my favorites from the 90's. It was good thing that I got the disc because the band had been given permission and free reign to use any Hendrix sample in making the disc by the Hendrix estate but then lost the permissions when Jimi's ex-wife got control a few years later. CD is out of print now, but the album is available digitally. 

Another track from the album.



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 19:55
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Logan: Matt Berry “Rain Came Down” Completely not expecting what I heard vs the LP cover.    “The Pheasant,” I rather liked more, with it’s sorta psych-folk-proggishness. But the first one was certainly a surprise, although not as much to my taste.


I wouldn't go with those, it's just funny to me, especially with the Paul McCartney perfauxmance, which did surprise me momentarily when I first heard it. I don't think many would be fooled by it here, but when you're not expecting anything.... Especially strange when combined with the lyrics. It's very silly. That PMesque vocalist did Sassy Trump, which you might have seen me post a clip of, and played Crowley in the excellent BBC radio adaptation of Good Omens. For my choice, I'll probably stick with my original, Pulp's Dishes -- my only concerns being that I think it's too well-known and that I haven't an interesting story to tell. So what, I heard it while listening to an old archived British radio comedy-musical show from the 90s (that I loved), then happened to hear it on the local radio the next day even though I rarely listen to music radio. Kind of a boring story, except for the fact that I'm not Jesus either, also do dishes and would like to turn water into wine -- lol). There was another song I wanted to go for more with maybe a more interesting story, but I anticipate using it another poll. As Micky says, it's the story behind why something is surprising that makes so interesting to me, and of course some will have more interesting tales of surprise to tell. Had I gone with that Australian "Don't Knock the Croc", that I think was very surprising, but I don't really like the song. I might go with the Air one I posted in my OP, since I was really surprised to really like it after having sl*g.ed the album when I gave it another listen (I was probably distracted the first time, or whining because I'd run out of wine). I do hope to come up with some more surprising choices, maybe some that shocked me (but in a tasteful way).



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 19:57
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

My biggest surprise came way back sometime around 197?.  One of the first 8-tracks that I could call my very own was Steve Miller Band's "Fly Like an Eagle".  I loved that song and album so much, that it sparked an interest in his music, but I honestly thought (back then) that it was his only album.  It was a year or two after that, that I finally purchased "The Joker" and totally expected the same basic thing as FLaE.  I was a little disappointed, at first, until I heard the instrumental break on "Shu-ba-da-du-ma-ma-ma-ma".  That exciting build up, the amazing bass solo, the tension build up to the explosive guitar solo, all of this was something I wasn't expecting, and by the time I heard this, I was pretty much fully immersed into music, so it was a huge shock for me then.  Here is the clip:

The Steve Miller Band - "Shu ba da du ma ma ma ma"


Imagine yourself hearing this the first time and not knowing anything about Steve Miller's pre-FLaE material.  Well, soon I was loving this album and searching for all of his back catalog.  The most surprising one is my alternate clip as it is very odd on the first listen and may not be to the liking of a lot of people, but it is 100% psychedelic, space-acid-trip music, but probably the most shocking thing I have ever heard from Mr. Miller's band.  At first listen, I thought it was trash, but over the years, I have grown to appreciate and love it.  

The Steve Miller Band - "Jackson Kent Blues"



Anyway, I have been pleasantly surprised a lot over the years with music, but Steve Miller's back catalog always had the most hidden surprises and treasures than any other artist in my opinion.  Maybe it's because he was one of my first favorites, but it's music I still love to this day.

love Jackson Kent Blues Clap
 

and a big amen to that!!!! Beer  and smoke them if you got 'em everyone..




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 20:12
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">I thought of a few surprises. My biggest surprise involved an Australian band. My brother was friends with band members in Cairns, I moved there for a year when I was 19. They had their own bar, and I was a bartender (but not there, that would be too much coincidence). ;). The night before I came back to Canada, my brother and I went see that band, Johno's Blues band live at their bar. In fact, the band's "Don't Knock the Croc" was the first thing my brother played on a jukebox on my first day in Cairns. When I got back home to Vancouver I put on the radio and "Don't Knock the Croc" was playing. Hey, don;t knock the coincidence even if it sounds like a crock of kaka. While that was a hit in Australia, I don't remember it ever playing here before or after. My other big coincidence surprise was at about the same time. I had just bought the CD of Kate Bush's The Kick Inside and was listening to it for the first time. At the same time I was reading (I liked to multi-task) a wonderful book about Paul Theroux's travels around China called Riding the Iron Rooster. Kate Bush has a song called "Strange Phenomena" on it and I was hearing it for the first time which is about strange coincidences. At the exact same time that the book mentioned the Buddhist chant "Om Mani Padme Hum", Kate Bush started singing the chant. If I had been the superstitious type, I might have seen this as some sort of revelation. I've heard less compelling to me coincidences put forward by superstitious types as evidence for the supernatural. I did have some interest in the paranormal for sure.</span>

I'm going for what seems lesser coincidence as my surprising choice even if it's not amazing in any way. I had just got into a dark comedy radio series called Blue Jam from the 90s (this wasn't that long ago), and it played a lot of music on the show. One of the songs was Pulp's "Dishes". A quite popular song that I had heard before, but I, being a pattern seeking animal, have thought before that quite a lot of that could refer to me, and yes, of course this is quite absurd, but still, and none of it is that surprising.... The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes." Oh and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible. Anyway, I rarely listen to music radio now (even if Blue Jam was a sketch comedy series for the radio that heavily incorporated music), but in the car I put on the radio (the night before I had listened to the Blue Jam episode that played the Pulp song, and what was on, but Pulp's Dishes (and its station I very rarely listen to). Having recently fallen for Blue Jam as much as I did, it felt fairly significant.


Greg, have you read the latest book published by Carl Gustav Jung? Let's say its a sort of autobiography. 

In the end he talks about many paranormal events that he cared for, revealing many background stories of his life and interpreting them with the keys of the analytical psychology that he had formulated which, in fact, is also inspired by myths, religions and mystical wisdoms.





I guess you mean Man and His Symbols, no though I think I've read bits and pieces of it. I did read Memories, Dreams, Reflections, which I thought you might have been referring to, and some earlier works.   My best friend was very, very into Jung. I like to slip Jungian archetypes into conversation to make me sound sophisticated. ;)

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 20:14
Logan, I realize I had jumped aged in the order, missed listening to and commenting on Dishes and also, Pedro's will make up for that very soon. Thanks for nudging me!

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 20:19
^ No worries. I haven't listened to anybody's music yet. Some I already know like that album by Pedro which is included in PA, so wouldn't make the poll even if but one track from it were included according to the guidelines. Good album, though.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 20:20
and one back at you Mike... talk about an artist with a back catalog that can offer many a surprise

but one for you since I take it you were a Prine fan...






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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 20:23
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Nice to have your contribution here Pedro! Well, I can kind of guess what's going to happen if I tell you that technically this poll is about songs and not whole albums, so I won't. We'll happily live with this (although I cannot promise that everyone will listen to this in its entirety). Wink

Hi,

BULLERIAS ... the opening cut! They showed DB  how to dance on stage, complete with lots of feet and castanets!


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 20:25
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes." Oh and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible. 

Shhhhhhhhh I have a secret to tell you Shhhhhhhhhhh

I call this my nightly miracle.  I turn water to wine every night.  Switch your water glass to a wine glass and .......voila!

ShhhhhhhhhWink

Also I think we have spoken of coincidences in other places (no coincidence there!).  Paranormal?  Angels?  Some other kinds of signs? Complete accidents?  Who knows.  All I know is, they happen.

Hi,

Probably listening to THE THIRD EAR BAND a little too much!


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 22:14
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Logan, I realize I had jumped ahead in the order, missed listening to and commenting on Dishes and also, Pedro's will make up for that very soon. Thanks for nudging me!
  Sorry, was working from my phone, this is why I don't like to, too tiny for my fingers.  Duplicate of post above.  This can be removed or ignored.



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 22:15
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I am still contemplating an alternate.  I'm torn because the piece I most want to use doesn't have anything of it in particular, on YT.  I know that dropbox works here, am I allowed to make a copy of it from my own collection and paste it here?  I do own the LP (and CD), just for some reason that one by the artist doesn't appear anywhere on YT.
Just remembered this artist IS on PA, so not going to worry about it (my first alternate thought). Still thinking of an alternate, two different women artists in mind.  Edited to add that I ended up choosing a male alternate instead, that is not on PA.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 22:40
I edited my first post to include and change my nomination from Pulp's "Dishes" to Eel's "Beautiful Freak". I had some rather somewhat surprising coincidences with that song, and I am freakishly beautiful, which should come as no surprise.



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 22:43
Oh, I have many friends who love Eels.  Looking forward to listening, Logan



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 22:48
So I decided to use this one for an alternate, I was thinking for maybe male singer/songwriter and was contemplating two women artists.  But this one came to the fore.  I was surprised to hear this when it came to my attention.  I knew of his song, "Blues Run the Game," via Bert Jansch,  but didn't know the author of that song and this one is absolutely chilling (or on fire, as the in video). I was shocked I'd never known of this song of his, nor known of his authorship of Blues Run the Game.  The song title is "Dialogue."

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 22:55
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Oh, I have many friends who love Eels.  Looking forward to listening, Logan



Well there's another coincidence. :D A serendipitous one even, provided that you do enjoy it.

EDIT: I just listened to that "I Want to Be Alone" song and loved it.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 23:00
I kinda thought you might, Logan.  Looking forward to hearing Eels from your viewpoint.Beer

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 01:16
- Lewian: Diethelm/ Famulari - Portrait". Energetic and clever

- Moshkito: Carmen - Fandangos in Space. I know the album well, have it in my collection. and like it. Being in PA I don't know if Lewian will include your track from it due to the guidelines, but a very good album none-the-less.

- Logan: Eels - Beautiful Freak or possibly Pulp - Dishes or Air - Radian

- The Anders: Dvar - Gyandarvaal: playful, quirky, really love it. It made me think a bit of Pierre Henry & Urban Sax's Paradise Lost and Michael Nyman even is not very similar and regionally different.




- jamesbaldwin: I vostri sgaurdi. I really loved this, a great combo of smooth Noirish jazz and more. It surprised me, and for that reason I think this will be hard to beat for me. Remarkable.

After the previous ones I feel I need to up my game (I don't get surprised much except when it comes to my own stupidity sometimes).

- Rushfan4: Rush - One Little Victory. U R 4ever a Rush fan. I've heard plenty of Rush, but little Vapor Trails. It's One Big Loss for me. ;) Kidding, but it's not my cup of Geddy Lee, and I do prefer Ginger Tea. I guess you will change that, the pick I mean, not the Rush fan bit.

- Micky: Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk. Heard that plenty, quite fun but not really my scene.

- Deee-Lite - Power of Love. Fun.

- Fleetwood Mac - Sands of Time. I liked this one a lot.

-Chrish Issak - 5:15. Nice.

- Raff: Deee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart. One I'm very familiar with and have always liked. I've danced to that in nightclubs. It's infectious in a good way.

- Fleetwood Mac - hypnotized. "You are feeling, very very sleepy ... Now on the count of three you will wake up and remember nothing of this song". ;) I enjoyed it actually, but it's not as deee-liteful as the other..

-Chrish Isaak - Wicked Game. Another song I know very well. I liked it a lot when it came out. I've been very into Twin Peaks and quite recently I watched Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me and enjoyed Chris Isaak in the movie (Bowie appeared in it too).

Will stop there for now, and Deee-lite will encourage me to post a popular dance song that I liked back when I was clubbin'. Opus III - It's a Fine Day




- Snicolette: Mahk Jchi - heartbeat Drum song. Beautiful, quite mesmerising. I liked this a lot.

And as said, I really loved the Jackson C. Frank.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 02:59
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  A Filetta  Danse Mémoire, Danse “I vostri squardi”  Very brooding and lush.  Gorgeous harmonies (as should be expected from your description), and I love when the horn comes in, it is suitably mournful.  “Sumiglia,” your nomination.  Begins with a keening solo, joined in with the other voices as a subtle backdrop, this one gave me chills.  Bravo to them and to you for bringing it here.  The acoustic Springsteen’s of “Born in the USA”  the beauty of a singer/songwriter (even a rock one) is that the songs can be stripped to their basics and they still have their true character, sometimes, even more so in the simplicity of it.  I like the echo-y sound of the guitar and also on his voice on the demo….then he sort of reprises that, on the 12-string live, but not quite so much.  I prefer this live one to the demo, he is such a good, good live performer.  The third one (also live), the beginning work with the slide sounds almost raga-ish, this is my favourite of the three.



Oh thank you very much for your feedback.

My nomination is I vostri sguardi, the song with the horn. Maybe I should edit my message if it seems that my nomination is Sumiglia. Anyway, I enjoy your comments. Yes, that voices give me chills.

And Springsteen? Well, I'm a fan, a "Bruce boy". I've seen Bruce in concert I guess 20 times, the first in 1988 and the last three years ago. He's a great performer. He gives his soul to his fans.



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 03:11
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I edited my first post to include and change my nomination from Pulp's "Dishes" to Eel's "Beautiful Freak". I had some rather somewhat surprising coincidences with that song, and I am freakishly beautiful, which should come as no surprise.


I love this album (their debut) and Novocaine for the soul.


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 03:15
This was quite a surprise when I stumbled over it, a long time ago:


I found it next to King Crimson, of course. I bought the album, and it's really good, actually.



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 05:29
TCat: Great post on the Steve Miller Band! I loved Fly Like An Eagle and then heard a few other things that I didn't like much of him, and I kinda gave up at this point. But the Shu Ba Da thing is every bit as good!


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 07:35
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I edited my first post to include and change my nomination from Pulp's "Dishes" to Eel's "Beautiful Freak". I had some rather somewhat surprising coincidences with that song, and I am freakishly beautiful, which should come as no surprise.


I love this album (their debut) and Novocaine for the soul.

Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.



Another one of my top albums from the 90's.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 08:18
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  A Filetta  Danse Mémoire, Danse “I vostri squardi”  Very brooding and lush.  Gorgeous harmonies (as should be expected from your description), and I love when the horn comes in, it is suitably mournful.  “Sumiglia,”.  Begins with a keening solo, joined in with the other voices as a subtle backdrop, this one gave me chills.  Bravo to them and to you for bringing it here.  The acoustic Springsteen’s of “Born in the USA”  the beauty of a singer/songwriter (even a rock one) is that the songs can be stripped to their basics and they still have their true character, sometimes, even more so in the simplicity of it.  I like the echo-y sound of the guitar and also on his voice on the demo….then he sort of reprises that, on the 12-string live, but not quite so much.  I prefer this live one to the demo, he is such a good, good live performer.  The third one (also live), the beginning work with the slide sounds almost raga-ish, this is my favourite of the three.

Oh thank you very much for your feedback.

My nomination is I vostri sguardi, the song with the horn. Maybe I should edit my message if it seems that my nomination is Sumiglia. Anyway, I enjoy your comments. Yes, that voices give me chills.

And Springsteen? Well, I'm a fan, a "Bruce boy". I've seen Bruce in concert I guess 20 times, the first in 1988 and the last three years ago. He's a great performer. He gives his soul to his fans.

I have noted that your nomination was the first video not the second.  Thank you for clarifying.  And, there's a reason why Bruce has had the staying power he has enjoyed.Smile

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 08:35
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

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- Moshkito: Carmen - Fandangos in Space. I know the album well, have it in my collection. and like it. Being in PA I don't know if Lewian will include your track from it due to the guidelines, but a very good album none-the-less.
 

Pedro, and only Pedro, is allowed to do this in my poll. (He really scored a big one with me indicating a single song; wouldn't have expected that.)
Of course everybody is free not to vote for it on that basis. Wink


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 08:43
Then I'll post this for Pedro.



Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 10:16
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

and one back at you Mike... talk about an artist with a back catalog that can offer many a surprise

but one for you since I take it you were a Prine fan...

(video removed for space)



Love "In My First Mind" by the way, that was another that I considered posting actually.  

And yes I'm familiar with Bonnie Raitt's version of "Angel from Montgomery" which she does an excellent job with it.  It's kind of funny to hear Prine sing it, since it starts out with the lyrics "I'm an old woman....", but it is still amazing how heartfelt it is anyway, and I mean both versions.  


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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 12:02
This song reminds me of the power of discovering the right music at the right time. One night I was feeling a crushing loneliness so I turned on the radio for company and this music was like a ray of light. It was so uplifting I felt great for weeks. It was also surprising to hear a song so long and jazzy on a modern Pop radio.



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:02
Here goes, the rest of the entries so far, plus additional comments on further postings by those who I'd already covered, as far as they'd gotten that time.  

Logan further:  Pulp “Dishes”  Ah, this is the song mentioned elsewhere, the one who’s not Jesus, though he has the same initials.  Great line!  Also somewhat reminds me of Ray Davies.  Air “Radian”  Very hypnotic and eerie, both.  Nice harp, horn and flute sounds, where it gets less eerie, but still outstanding, then moves into some other strange territory.  Wowie zowie, really enjoyed that! Pierre Henry Urban Sax “Paradise Lost”  Pretty wild stuff.  I have a friend, Archie Patterson, who really loves them, who has published a book under his “Eurock” banner about them. Opus III “It’s A Fine Day”  Really pretty voice, very different from Urban Sax!

Moshkito:  Carmen “Fandangos In Space”  I was fortunate to see this band live as opener for Jethro Tull at The Forum in 1975.  They indeed had their amplified stage floor for the flamenco dancing part of their show.  John Glascock (who was in Carmen at this time) joined Jethro Tull after Carmen disbanded, his romantic partner, Angela Allen, was the flamenco dancer.  Rock and flamenco go quite well together.  Special thanks to George for posting the live video.

Micky further: SMB “In My First Mind” Classic psych and ya gotta love the cover, too!  Bonnie Raitt “Angel From Montgomery”  Great, great Prine song…and Bonnie does it justice.  A staple in Santa Cruz radio, clubs and Bonnie’s shows always sold out in minutes there.  Good reason for that. 

TCat: Steve Miller Band “Shu Ba Da Du Ma Ma Ma Ma”  Very familiar with SMB, pretty infectious groove on this one.  Really nice post-psych rock guitar solo, as you’d advertised.  SMB “Jackson Kent Blues” He is a space cowboy, after all!  😉

George:  Beautiful People “If 60s were 90s”  Always find it interesting when bands use samples from other artists, who and why.  This is a good one, most of us wonder what Jimi would have been doing had he lived a more normal life-span.  Maybe something like this, but we’ll never know.  “Comin’ to get you” Also pretty cool…this has also surprised me with how good it is. Eels “Cancer for the Cure” The poor bagpipes!  Reminded me of the Portlandia episode where Joanna Newsome crams a concert harp into the back of a hatchback.  Cool absurdist-ish video too (speaking back to the Eels).  Pretty catchy, I think it’s going to turn into an earworm.  Carmen “Bularias”  GREAT video, thank you! 

Suitkees: King Missile “Detachable Penis”  Made me laugh.  Great novelty song! 

Meltdowner:  Bruno Pernadas “Spaceway 70”  This had me right from the beginning with the bass, then the brass and flutes kicking in, then the super-cool vocals.  I’m not a big fan of upbeat music, but this is a cool drink on a hot day.  I can see why it lifted your spirits.

 

 





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:03
For added fun, here is the Portlandia segment I mentioned re the desecration of the bagpipes by Eels in their video.  I am sure no actual harp was damaged in this video.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:37
 Nice one, Joanna Newsom is awesome (I got to know her on the radio, but that was actually a show where regularly good stuff was played, so not that much of a surprise), and this is a super fun video!
Here's some of her music:


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:48
I was at a college party in my sophomore year when someone put this album on. I'd never heard anything like it. I immediately stopped talking and sat down to listen to the whole thing. I borrowed it from the host when I left and bought it 2 days later. Still adore everything he's done.




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:50
Here's one of these proper radio surprises. A live show of brilliant and sharp German-Polish singer and songwriter Mona Mur was on when I switched the radio on at a random time at some point in the mid-eighties, and that was how I heard her stuff for the first time.
I think this was the song that was playing when I tuned in:
"You are just ridiculous little mayflies-
You are just little pigs on the battle bench-
You are just small wheels in the gearbox"

Another one she played on that night:
This is a 1929 Brecht/Weill song.
This makes me think we should have a cover versions poll at some point.

By the way, as announced earlier, you have until end Friday to nominate, change your mind about nominations, and whatever you want, before the poll starts.



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:52
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Logan further: Pulp “Dishes” Ah, this is the song mentioned elsewhere, the one who’s not Jesus, though he has the same initials. Great line! Also somewhat reminds me of Ray Davies. Air “Radian” Very hypnotic and eerie, both. Nice harp, horn and flute sounds, where it gets less eerie, but still outstanding, then moves into some other strange territory. Wowie zowie, really enjoyed that! Pierre Henry Urban Sax “Paradise Lost” Pretty wild stuff. I have a friend, Archie Patterson, who really loves them, who has published a book under his “Eurock” banner about them. Opus III “It’s A Fine Day” Really pretty voice, very different from Urban Sax!


Thanks, and I have changed my nomination from Eels "Beautiful Freak" to Air's "Radian". a track from the Air album. Either "Radian" or "Sex Born Poison" I thought would be my pick since I was genuinely surprised at how stupid my negative reaction to the album had been when I initially played it. That I had dismissed it so easily and made a vacuous negative comment about it embarrasses (a minor embarrassment, but I have got many thousands of embarrassing moments that pop up regularly in my head, and new ones every day). At least I now recognise my ignorance and that I was swayed by reading some negative reviews, not listening with an open mind or even at all attentively at first (more like background noise as I was editing a paper). Wile none of my anecdotes to explain my choice might be compelling, this anecdote is the one that does not feel ultimately superficial to me.

You don't have to listen to it, Nickie, but here is another track I liked from the album. I love the whole album now, but Radian and Sex Born Poison are the two that clicked the most first (this track has more of an element of surprise to me).



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:58
Thanks, Logan, will give it a listen in a bit.  The first one I heard that you posted by them really intrigued me.  Smile

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:58
Radian is great in my ears, Sex Born Poison not quite that much (if this helps the decision process Wink), surprise factor or not.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:01
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

 Nice one, Joanna Newsom is awesome (I got to know her on the radio, but that was actually a show where regularly good stuff was played, so not that much of a surprise), and this is a super fun video!
Here's some of her music:
Thanks, will enjoy seeing the video in a bit!  I have a couple of her recordings, I think I first heard of her when there used to be a great magazine for acoustic music of all kinds, "Dirty Linen."  

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:02
I love Joanna Newsom's music, but her voice takes some getting used to, and a whole album of it can get a bit tiresome after a while.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:04
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I was at a college party in my sophomore year when someone put this album on. I'd never heard anything like it. I immediately stopped talking and sat down to listen to the whole thing. I borrowed it from the host when I left and bought it 2 days later. Still adore everything he's done.

(Video)

The first thing I heard of Leonard Cohen was this, and it had a similar effect on me.



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:05
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Radian is great in my ears, Sex Born Poison not quite that much (if this helps the decision process Wink), surprise factor or not.


It helps since Radian is my first choice too, thanks. Now I feel that I can comfortably stop vacillating between my choices (and get on with listening to others music).

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:07
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I love Joanna Newsom's music, but her voice takes some getting used to, and a whole album of it can get a bit tiresome after a while.

That her voice needs getting used to is true... I can enjoy whole albums of her, but I really have to be in the mood.
By the way, do you know of Italian radio shows where good new music is played regularly?


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:08
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:


Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.



Another one of my top albums from the 90's.


Love that video and love that track.  Note to self:  Add this album to the list of "gotta hear this".

Nice post Geo!




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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:10
Because I apparently have lived a sheltered life and not come across any rare obscure exciting surprises like the rest of you folks, I am going to select a well known pop artist who provided a surprise to me "prog rock" album and specifically this song:



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:15
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.

(Eels video)

Another one of my top albums from the 90's.

Coincidentally I heard this one on the same radio show (not on the same day though) where I came across  Joanna Newsom. Very cool. The first half is pretty close to Holger Hiller's stuff (my contribution to the - what? - second poll or so).


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:18
I really like the Electro Shock Blues album too. I think my favourite track is "My Descent Into Madness", because of the baroque-like string section.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:18
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

For added fun, here is the Portlandia segment I mentioned re the desecration of the bagpipes by Eels in their video.  I am sure no actual harp was damaged in this video.

"Why are you suing us?  What kind of vibe is that?"   LMAO  LOL




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:28
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Because I apparently have lived a sheltered life and not come across any rare obscure exciting surprises like the rest of you folks, I am going to select a well known pop artist who provided a surprise to me "prog rock" album and specifically this song: [video embed edited out for bandwidth]


Maybe some people are less easily surprised than others. Just being at the forum I get multiple surprises every day (not so much in discovering music, but in what people say or "fail to say" quite often). I am someone who makes predictions (to myself) a lot, such as this person will likely say this, or that person will likely vote that, and am surprised that I get it wrong as much as I do as I used to be much better at making accurate predictions (my psychic powers have waned).A very predictable forum can be a very boring forum, though, but one can expect certain patterns of behavior from individuals.

I love Neil Diamond and that song. I couldn't think of many instances of surprise (two of mine were based on coincidences which really were not that that amazing or surprising) and none that are very obscure,I would think. Two pretty popular songs, and one pretty popular act with Air. Part of the fun in these polls for me is thinking through one's approach within the parameters, and that process can be quite creative. It's a very thoughtful and introspective exercise, and also an interactive, communal exercise. It's that combo that makes this series such a winner for me.

Such a predictably boring Logan response, sorry.

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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:34
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Because I apparently have lived a sheltered life and not come across any rare obscure exciting surprises like the rest of you folks, I am going to select a well known pop artist who provided a surprise to me "prog rock" album and specifically this song:

video removed for space reasons and stuff like that.

The Jonathan Livingston Seagull soundtrack is the reason why I have very much respect for Neil Diamond.  All of the music on that album is amazingly beautiful, deep and touching.  That music touches my soul deeply everytime I hear it.  The man could write beautiful music and poetry when he was inspired.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:46
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.

(Eels video)

Another one of my top albums from the 90's.

Coincidentally I heard this one on the same radio show (not on the same day though) where I came across  Joanna Newsom. Very cool. The first half is pretty close to Holger Hiller's stuff (my contribution to the - what? - second poll or so).


Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

I really like the Electro Shock Blues album too. I think my favourite track is "My Descent Into Madness", because of the baroque-like string section.


Electro Shock Blues and the debut are the only Eels albums I know. I did discover the band due to hearing the "Beautiful Freak" song, which was a pretty big hit song, methinks. "My Descent Into Madness" is likely my favourite too, also because of the baroque-like string section. There's lot of music I love with such string sounds both from the 60s through 70s and in the 90s up. It's something of a particular passion of mine in music, and I love 90s-up music with a certain retro feel to it (evocative of the late 60s). One reason I like "Beautiful Freak" is that it has an air of pathos and fragility (qualities I commonly do favour in music as it resonates with often melancholic and awkward/unsure of myself me). I'm really interested in how music interests (and film and TV) reflects on people's psychology/ life experiences.

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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:56
The one thing that always surprises me is this particular cover of John Lennon's "Imagine".   The thing that surprises me about it is how much I adore this cover and how many people just hate it.  I think the tension that is built in this version is so pertinent to the current times, it's like everyone is waiting for the final straw that could bring everything down, and that is the feeling I get when I hear this.  

A Perfect Circle - "Imagine"



Thanks to Lorenzo for posting what I call the "real" versions of "Born in the USA".  I didn't know the song was originally meant for the "Nebraska" album, but these versions really push the meaning of the song to the fore, and I especially love the third one that you posted.  It was what inspired me to post what I think is the cover of the many covers of "Imagine" that truly conveys the meaning of the song.




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:58
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Me too! My favorite album of his is the second one, Electro-Shock Blues.

(Eels video)

Another one of my top albums from the 90's.

Coincidentally I heard this one on the same radio show (not on the same day though) where I came across  Joanna Newsom. Very cool. The first half is pretty close to Holger Hiller's stuff (my contribution to the - what? - second poll or so).

Yes, I did think of Holger as I was looking at the video (which I hadn't seen before). I've had this album for over 20 years, but had never seen the video until now. 

Very deep and personal, E wrote the album based on the institutionalization/suicide of his sister and his mom passing from lung cancer. It's a very cohesive album with a hint of optimism at the end. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 15:03
Another that sort of surprise me was this from Melody Nelson. I posted another from the album in an earlier poll. I'd heard/read from various sources that the only music worth listening to was the first and last track, but I enjoyed the whole album and was surprised that this was not considered worthy of regard:



I considered that for the poll, but thought the story behind choosing it lacked sufficient surprise factor.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 15:11
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

The one thing that always surprises me is this particular cover of John Lennon's "Imagine".   The thing that surprises me about it is how much I adore this cover and how many people just hate it.  I think the tension that is built in this version is so pertinent to the current times, it's like everyone is waiting for the final straw that could bring everything down, and that is the feeling I get when I hear this.  

A Perfect Circle - "Imagine"

(Video)

Thanks to Lorenzo for posting what I call the "real" versions of "Born in the USA".  I didn't know the song was originally meant for the "Nebraska" album, but these versions really push the meaning of the song to the fore, and I especially love the third one that you posted.  It was what inspired me to post what I think is the cover of the many covers of "Imagine" that truly conveys the meaning of the song.



Another call for a cover versions poll here! Wink



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