Do you think that KC will release new music?
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Topic: Do you think that KC will release new music?
Posted By: softandwet
Subject: Do you think that KC will release new music?
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 12:16
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"When you want to hear where music is going in the future, you put on a King Crimson album." - Bill Bruford, 1995 I want to know where music is going in the future! ------------- So don’t evade the surgeon’s blade Cos the answer could be in your mind Maybe one cut and we’ll find We’re just a wavelength behind But we are entwined And I know what you need |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 12:50
| Hope not. And the future of music? Lots of incredible stuff by new bands. Search and find. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 12:51
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I'd love to hear new music but it doesn't seem likely unless it's picking particular tracks off the live releases. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 12:51
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Pretty doubtful, I would have thought, but not impossible. The last Projeckt was excellent, it I feel they are now exclusively a touring band. In truth, Fripp always found recording somewhat difficult. The latest live releases do feature new music, and that is the way I think they will continue. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 13:49
| I certainly hope so, but I won't hold my breath to it. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:01
This
 . I'd also like to add that I believe the people who would welcome new KC music are a minority. Most of the people that go to their live shows want to hear the classics - as is the case with most other "vintage" bands. |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 16:21
| they don't need to, they don't have to |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 16:31
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I say Fripp will release some new music at some point. I find it hard to believe that somebody like him can retire from composing/recording new music. Whether that'll be under the KC name I don't know. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 16:45
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Probably not...as it feels like it would have happened already. Somehow this band has been reformed in the 7 or 8 man lineup for six years now. Though they are clearly still writing new music, as evidenced by the recent live albums. I'll always continue to hope. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 17:03
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It would be cool. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 19:54
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If they do it is likely something improvised rather than a full-fledged composed song. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 20:35
Sadly I agree...... -------------   
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 21:12
| At this stage? No, probably not. For one thing my guess would be that Mr. Fripp would be too concerned about illegal downloading, not getting paid for royalties etc etc. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 21:53
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Hi, I don't think that KC has to do anything ... but new music, specially with the 3 drummers and the current line up, I am not sure it will happen ... even if we "hope" to hear something new. KC has an incredible catalog over 50+ years of being there ... and really, for me, and you, they don't have to prove anything! A new album is not going to make a difference anymore I do not think! Not like the others did in their time! But you know what would be cool? Making an album with a group of good players, for his wife to sing ... and it should have a fun song, too! ... "dancing in the KC kitchen..."
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 23:25
| Maybe the odd song here and there. But albums for older groups are not really in the plans anymore. |
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 00:00
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I certainly hope so. Admittedly I still haven't seen them live, which is a bummer. The "new" lineup was huge news to me (5-6 years ago), especially that having Mel Collins back into the fold promised exciting renditions of Poseidon-Lizard-Islands stuff. Three drummers? A gimmick, but all are incredibly talented so it might work, I thought. And from what I heard around the Internet, Fripp finally accepted early KC catalogue (before 2014 reunion they only played a select few old songs, i.e. Schizoid, Larks 2 or Red). So I'm still looking forward to see them live, but getting new studio material would be great. "The Power to Believe" doesn't feel like a proper end.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 00:39
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I'd bet we've seen the end of new KC music for quite some time. Fripp is busy kicking everyone off YouTube for uploading his old stuff lol. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 08:27
Hi, He has that right ... he owns the music! You really think the Rolling Stones do it any less? ... you just don't hear about it! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 08:42
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No, as Fripp is on a nostalgia trip now. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 08:45
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I expect to see a release of a DVD of videos of Fripp with his wife doing countless odd, yet entertaining things, like watering the garden and dancing in a tutu. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: July 25 2020 at 17:40
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I don't know whether they will, nor do I care. They've never made an album I like, and I can't see them starting now. I'd rather listen to newer, fresher talent. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 26 2020 at 00:08
I see it as quite a bit more than nostalgia....he never really had the chance to tour extensively with material from "Poseidon" or "Islands," and he assembled an amazing ensemble of original players as well as younger talent to re-envision these songs. I've seen this twice, it is remarkable to witness live! That being said, I don't think Bob knows what the future holds. We've emailed a bit about possibilities for live-streaming instead of touring, and he wrote this to me (and my partner in Fripp crime, Wayne) dear charles - and wayne!
i'm not sure that KC Live would translate into streaming. i have seen some live-streaming and i'm not yet convinced.
we considered live-streaming Soundscapes c. 1998; but the technology didn't support it. and there's not a lot of high-adventure to be missed from live performance!
david singleton and myself are discussing virtual Royal Packages; and we're giving thought to...
in addition to zia sadar's complexity, chaos, contradictions perhaps we can add another C...
(re-)Calibration?
many thanks for your interest, and please keep youse both safe!
vb, robert ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 28 2020 at 10:46
| I guess the most likely... or at least it should be... is if they would pull off another Starless and Bible Black, and compile all the new songs they have done in the last tours into a new album. Perhaps if they could do just two or three more songs with a more "traditional" song structure. |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: July 28 2020 at 12:35
| Well if the Bowie Heroes case doesn't go a certain way etc *whistles innocently |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 28 2020 at 12:47
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: July 28 2020 at 16:57
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Was new stuff expected from the touring band? That would've been interesting.....maybe Crimso's masterpiece has yet to be made? That said, I doubt we hear new KC music, but my hope is Fripp will loop together something for us while sitting around the house. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 00:46
Steve, I've been a part-time musician for over 45 years, and I still enjoy revisiting some of the earliest tunes I've ever played! "Nostalgic" is for the fans, not for Fripp. He's not nostalgic about it....this is a guy who re-invented every aspect of electric guitar (synth guitar, new standard tuning), and fused it with both old friends and new talent. I see great creativity in what he is doing. I'm proud that he is my friend. When I saw this show (14 Sept 2014), the band performed "In the Wake of Poseidon" live for the first time I ever heard it....ITWOP was one of my earliest musical influences. This stage shows great creativity and innovation....drummers playing Mellotron patches on iPads, Bob holding down Mission Control at stage left etc.  ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 00:55
He (Fripp) most certainly has the right, and I'm probably one of the few that 100% agree with and support what he's doing. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 05:24
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 09:53
Hi, In my way of thinking and feeling, there is a certain measure of symbolic connection to the past for many of us ... the word "nostalgia", for me, kinda suggests that we are more into it than it is really necessary ... and sometimes as the song goes ... "living in the past" ... and that is not advisable ... after all a 50's Chevy on the freeway these days is probably going to get someone killed in places like LA, SF or NY ... where the highways are huge and the speeds are even faster. When it comes to the arts, I'm not sure that "nostalgia" is the right thing ... for example, I am into the (so-called) "krautrock" thing as you well know, but for me it is not a NOSTALGIC thing at all ... it is ALL a HUGE appreciation for the use of the arts in it (film, theater, music, literature, etc) and their ability to infuse new ways of thinking and creating material ... for me, a lot of rock'n'roll has not changed since the 50's, with one very important difference ... the ability to add more electricity and effects and synthesizers which changed the sound of the music ... remember The Edge and Andy Summers showing us how a chord that we love so much on the sound, sounded horrible without the effects altogether (in their VH-1 special) ... which ought to tell a lot of us ... that some of it is just doctored stuff ... and OFF COURSE ... it can not be "unplugged" because it is not listenable ... and this is the greatest fear for a lot of these musicians that think that technology is the end all of it all ... and it is not ... KC has no need to release new music, and I believe Mr. Fripp is thinking that there are a lot of things inthe catalogue that he would like to do differently, but right now I'm not sure that he wants the version of folks that are with him ... I have this funny feeling that he might like to bring Bill Bruford out of retirement, to help create something so far out ... that we are going to sit here and go ... wow ... that was cool! Wouldn't that be nice?
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 11:00
Did they play the song "In the Wake of Poseidon" live with this line-up? Why did they drop it from the set-list? Why did they not release a show on CD with that song? (as far as I know). |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 13:08
Sorry, I meant "Pictures of a City." My bad. This was the setlist: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2014/vic-theatre-chicago-il-3cf0ddf.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2014/vic-theatre-chicago-il-3cf0ddf.html I've seen KC going back to LTIA tour, this show was absolutely breathtaking! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 16:42
Actually, apart from many arrangements that were new, also some of the three drummers plus X stuff was new on these tours, no? I've seen them twice in 2018/19, and I'd say a good 10 minutes of the material is not from any studio album (not even re-arranged). It's not "songs" though.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 17:58
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I saw this show in Chicago, which was remarkable, and they did a tiny bit of unreleased material (a better term to use than "new"). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_in_Chicago_%28King_Crimson_album%29" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_in_Chicago_(King_Crimson_album) ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: ajfennewald
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 02:26
I think King Crimson is doing themselves a pretty big disservice by copyright blocking reaction videos. These things can legitimately get people into older music they have never heard before. Phil Collins even recharted in the air tonight due to a reaction video.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 11:52
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Fripp visited a dying Wetton a few years back. Then he popped up on a Bowie documentary adding warm thoughts. Sure, he'll probably surprise us with a new Crimso' album within five years. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 13:49
Do you think that KC will release new music?Not without the Sunshine band.  (Sorry , I couldn't resist!)
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: September 11 2020 at 02:01
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Don't really see it happening... But who knows, the Frippman is full of surprises. |