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How did Egg and Caravan nail the organ fuzz solo?

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Topic: How did Egg and Caravan nail the organ fuzz solo?
Posted By: hugo1995
Subject: How did Egg and Caravan nail the organ fuzz solo?
Date Posted: September 17 2020 at 17:17
As in terms of equipment. 

We have the same organ Egg used, we have the Wah pedal and the Behringer pedal (which is the exact same schematics internally as the Schaftesbury Fuzz), but something is wrong here as it doesn't sound right.

I'm doing: Hammond > Wah > Fuzz > Output. 

Perhaps it's:
Hammond > Fuzz > Wah > Output? sh*t I don't know. I just want to get the right sound that Caravan and Egg were doing when they would rip a fat solo like on Nine Feet Underground, or Visit to Newport Hospital.

Any info here would be greatly appreciated.


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Moon Safari - Blomljud, Egg - Egg, Egg - Polite Force, ELP - Trilogy, Frost - Milliontown, Soft Machine - Third, Gong - You, Opeth (Everything pre watershed), Miles Davis - Bitches Brew



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 17 2020 at 17:32
Don't you mean Soft Machine and Egg? 


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 17 2020 at 17:42
Hatfield and NH

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 17 2020 at 17:55
Originally posted by hugo1995 hugo1995 wrote:

As in terms of equipment. 

We have the same organ Egg used, we have the Wah pedal and the Behringer pedal (which is the exact same schematics internally as the Schaftesbury Fuzz), but something is wrong here as it doesn't sound right.

I'm doing: Hammond > Wah > Fuzz > Output. 

Perhaps it's:
Hammond > Fuzz > Wah > Output? sh*t I don't know. I just want to get the right sound that Caravan and Egg were doing when they would rip a fat solo like on Nine Feet Underground, or Visit to Newport Hospital.

Any info here would be greatly appreciated.
This is something you probably already know, but just in case. The volume setting of your keyboard is going to have a big effect on how much saturation you get from your distortion gear. Also, maybe try changing the order of your set up, wah before fuzz. What you are doing is the usual way, but maybe they are doing something different.

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"Its going to disappear, one day, its like a miracle it will disappear" - hollywood donald vs the pandemic


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 18 2020 at 01:16
The best way to get the best sounds is to simply experiment.

Try different, unconventional pedal orderings. I created a sick guitar tone simply from moving a single octave pedal around one spot in my chain. Avoid musical gear dogma and you'll create new sounds FAST.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 26 2020 at 07:12
Hammond L122 I think. What a super sound.
I have no idea on the order of effects though. My favourite keyboard sounds is Fuzz Organ.


Posted By: hugo1995
Date Posted: September 27 2020 at 13:06
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by hugo1995 hugo1995 wrote:

As in terms of equipment. 

We have the same organ Egg used, we have the Wah pedal and the Behringer pedal (which is the exact same schematics internally as the Schaftesbury Fuzz), but something is wrong here as it doesn't sound right.

I'm doing: Hammond > Wah > Fuzz > Output. 

Perhaps it's:
Hammond > Fuzz > Wah > Output? sh*t I don't know. I just want to get the right sound that Caravan and Egg were doing when they would rip a fat solo like on Nine Feet Underground, or Visit to Newport Hospital.

Any info here would be greatly appreciated.
This is something you probably already know, but just in case. The volume setting of your keyboard is going to have a big effect on how much saturation you get from your distortion gear. Also, maybe try changing the order of your set up, wah before fuzz. What you are doing is the usual way, but maybe they are doing something different.
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

The best way to get the best sounds is to simply experiment.

Try different, unconventional pedal orderings. I created a sick guitar tone simply from moving a single octave pedal around one spot in my chain. Avoid musical gear dogma and you'll create new sounds FAST.

Thanks guys, and no @Easy Money I didn't know that. Some of this stuff is obvious to some, but I haven't had any experience in vintage tech + audio engineering so it's a bit frustrating getting my head around this. 

The last 2 years I have gained a great respect for the album producer/studio engineer. Heavily underrated role.


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Moon Safari - Blomljud, Egg - Egg, Egg - Polite Force, ELP - Trilogy, Frost - Milliontown, Soft Machine - Third, Gong - You, Opeth (Everything pre watershed), Miles Davis - Bitches Brew


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 27 2020 at 13:18
I don't know. All I know is I like the Caravan organ fuzz solos a lot.
 
This is a picture of my keyboard, although I can't play an organ fuzz solo on it. Smile
 


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 27 2020 at 13:37
Originally posted by hugo1995 hugo1995 wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by hugo1995 hugo1995 wrote:

As in terms of equipment. 

We have the same organ Egg used, we have the Wah pedal and the Behringer pedal (which is the exact same schematics internally as the Schaftesbury Fuzz), but something is wrong here as it doesn't sound right.

I'm doing: Hammond > Wah > Fuzz > Output. 

Perhaps it's:
Hammond > Fuzz > Wah > Output? sh*t I don't know. I just want to get the right sound that Caravan and Egg were doing when they would rip a fat solo like on Nine Feet Underground, or Visit to Newport Hospital.

Any info here would be greatly appreciated.
This is something you probably already know, but just in case. The volume setting of your keyboard is going to have a big effect on how much saturation you get from your distortion gear. Also, maybe try changing the order of your set up, wah before fuzz. What you are doing is the usual way, but maybe they are doing something different.

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

The best way to get the best sounds is to simply experiment.

Try different, unconventional pedal orderings. I created a sick guitar tone simply from moving a single octave pedal around one spot in my chain. Avoid musical gear dogma and you'll create new sounds FAST.

Thanks guys, and no @Easy Money I didn't know that. Some of this stuff is obvious to some, but I haven't had any experience in vintage tech + audio engineering so it's a bit frustrating getting my head around this. 

The last 2 years I have gained a great respect for the album producer/studio engineer. Heavily underrated role.
   
Well there you go, try experimenting with the volume setting on the kybd. A high volume will produce a very saturated distortion while a lower volume will produce a lighter distortion.

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"Its going to disappear, one day, its like a miracle it will disappear" - hollywood donald vs the pandemic


Posted By: thief
Date Posted: September 29 2020 at 00:17
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I don't know. All I know is I like the Caravan organ fuzz solos a lot.
 
This is a picture of my keyboard, although I can't play an organ fuzz solo on it. Smile
 


Nice photo Paul! I hope you enjoy it :)


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 29 2020 at 08:42
Hi,

I believe that DaveSax has answered this somewhere else, but I can not find it. 


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 29 2020 at 08:52
Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I don't know. All I know is I like the Caravan organ fuzz solos a lot.
 
This is a picture of my keyboard, although I can't play an organ fuzz solo on it. Smile
 


Nice photo Paul! I hope you enjoy it :)
Thanks! I'd enjoy it if I had the time to actually play it. I spend so much time listening to music (8 albums per day), I have no time left over for making music. Smile



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