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Topic: RIP Eddie Van Halen!
Posted By: cstack3
Subject: RIP Eddie Van Halen!
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:21
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-van-halen-dead/" rel="nofollow - https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-van-halen-dead/

Not quite a prog guitarist, but Eddie was responsible for a huge explosion of interest by young players (mostly teenage boys) who wanted to pick up the 6 string!! 

Eddie single-handedly helped turn Kramer guitar company into a massive brand, introduced the locking tremolo to the masses etc.  

Worth discussing.  RIP Eddie.



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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:23
An ineffable loss for the rock community...


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:25
Biggest loss in guitar rock since the death of Hendrix.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vhnd.com%2F2014%2F03%2F31%2Fpainting-guitar%2F&psig=AOvVaw1KcUdilyT5qBzbPe8I_v5e&ust=1602100723567000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCMCXjrbgoOwCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAq" rel="nofollow">Heres When Eddie Van Halen Painted His Red/Black/White Guitar! | Van Halen  News Desk

Rest now.




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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:28
Eddie was a big fan of Allan Holdsworth and gave him support at a time that Allan probably needed it. 

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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:31
I grew up in the late 70's & 80's with bands like Van Halen.
Part of the sound track of my youth. You will be missed Eddie. 


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:34


     


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:36
I remember Eddie van Halen best for his guitar solo on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" Heart


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:37
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Eddie was a big fan of Allan Holdsworth and gave him support at a time that Allan probably needed it. 

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-van-halen-allan-holdsworth-jam/" rel="nofollow - https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-van-halen-allan-holdsworth-jam/

It's a shame Holdsworth didn't like Road Games, it's actually a terrific album and one of his most unsafe, non-latibule projects.





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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:39
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I remember Eddie van Halen best for his guitar solo on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" Heart


Also one of the best scenes from Back to the Future...

These two examples clearly prove that his impact far exceeds the boundaries of the rock community.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 14:51
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I remember Eddie van Halen best for his guitar solo on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" Heart
it also features late drummer Jeff Porcaro

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:04
RIP...and Cheers Eddie. Beer
After all, you were married to VB during her prime.Wink
Oh, and you played a mean guitar!Thumbs Up



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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:05
What a worthless year......Just got off the phone with a buddy and he was in tears. I saw VH at a HS gym in mid 70s (I think) then again at the US Festival '83......

Terrible news....wow

RIP....The GOAT!


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:07
Legend 

RIP


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:09
2020 really blows. First Neil Peart, now this. These guys were f**king gods. RIP.

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:11
So sad. RIP Eddie.

Yes, 2020 just blows.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:14
wow...  what is there to say ...  just shocked.  Easily the greatest and most influential guitarist of the last 40 odd years and only a peg behind the greatest of the great but hands down the most iconic guitarist since the 60's...

a Mick toastie to you Eddie.. and my list of greatest blow thy speakers song list wouldn't be complete without something from him.. and it is damn well complete let me tell you. 

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:22
Back in 1978 I went to see Black Sabbath. Backing them up on that tour was this unknown band from Cali. Who knew?

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Posted By: Cylli Kat (0fficial)
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:23
Oh J*sus...
I'm f*cking crushed...
Steve G., wow man you hit it... 2020 sucks...
I'm losing my heroes....
This hurts as fiercely as losing Neil...


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:24
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Back in 1978 I went to see Black Sabbath. Backing them up on that tour was this unknown band from Cali. Who knew?

apparently Sabbath were not happy when so many people were turning up to see the support band and not them Smile


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:24
^^^ the infamous tour where Sabbath came off as choir boys in comparison.






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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:29
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^^^ the infamous tour where Sabbath came off as choir boys in comparison.


it was a BS on the edge of the precipice, no wonder they were easy prey LOL

Been listening to Van halen since I read the news, I can't believe it, been listening to this band since i was a kid... I'm shocked and sad (an understatement). 


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:30
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

I grew up in the late 70's & 80's with bands like Van Halen.
Part of the sound track of my youth. You will be missed Eddie. 

Same here. And I still regularly listen to their albums (especially their first six). Sad news.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:32
A huge shame and a great loss.

RIP


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:32
Valerie Bertenelli left him due to his smoking. She saw the writing on the wall. Very sad 🙁

Honestly, he hasn't been relevant in the guitar world since the 80s. As a guitarist i never found him very creative beyond the albums up to 5150 then it was just mediocre crap.

Yeah, he was a legend but never one of my favorite guitarists beyond the first album's influence.

Still though, RIP, man! You really did get the shredding ball rolling.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:34
[QUOTE=siLLy puPPy] ...mediocre crap.[QUOTE] Sorry bro, but I wish I could play some of his "mediocre crap."

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:42
Still sitting here in disbelief, trying to work...

Van Halen was the band of my childhood and teen years before I discovered prog rock.

But I never stopped liking, or listening to, Van Halen. I've bought all the albums multiple times, even the most recent batch of remasters. I was hoping they'd do more one more album.

Whether you think Eddie Van Halen was a big deal or not, it's the end of an era.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:43
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly, he hasn't been relevant in the guitar world since the 80s.

That is patently untrue. Go ask any young guitarist. Many of them start playing because of Eddie, to this day.


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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:49
The extended scene. I must confess, I'm seeing this for the first time.



Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:51
It wasn't just his soloing innovations--  his compositions, riffs & rhythms could be as good as his lead performances.





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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 15:57
Don't forget Eddie's integration of keyboards into Van Halen's sound, something the other guys were initially against.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:00
^ I don't blame them, 'Jump' still makes me cringe.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:01
And Eddie made tapping cool. Something Steve Hackett could never do.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:07
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly, he hasn't been relevant in the guitar world since the 80s.

Neither has Jeff Beck. 




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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:08
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I don't blame them, 'Jump' still makes me cringe.

Not this guy. I loved it. Still do! Oberheim OB-Xa, man. Sounds awesome.


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:34
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly, he hasn't been relevant in the guitar world since the 80s.

That is patently untrue. Go ask any young guitarist. Many of them start playing because of Eddie, to this day.


Well yeah but when i mean relevant i mean innovative actually. Probably a better word. Even the youth go to the earliest albums. Do you really think anyone was inspired by OU812? LOL

To be more specific, Eddie will ALWAYS be relevant but what IS true is that his top dog status was dethroned in the 80s when guitarists like Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Marty Friedman and many others who were much more creative pretty much made him seem tame in comparison.


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:35
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly, he hasn't been relevant in the guitar world since the 80s.

Neither has Jeff Beck. 




True dat. Everyone has an expiration date but we still love and admire them at their creative peak. Eddie VH will be loved forever for his early Van Halen years.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 16:52
Sad news, RIP.

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Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:00
I just heard and honestly i'm shocked. 
Prog he was not, but that doesn't matter. I was still blown away the first time I heard Eddie play.
Never heard anything like his playing, and still haven't to this day.



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:04
I posted this earlier in the RIP thread and also just saw it mentioned on the news(of course I knew they had to mention it). A really sad day for rock fans no matter what your favorite style is. He was so influential and important and above all talented. RIP Eddie. 





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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:10
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly, he hasn't been relevant in the guitar world since the 80s.

That is patently untrue. Go ask any young guitarist. Many of them start playing because of Eddie, to this day.


Well yeah but when i mean relevant i mean innovative actually. Probably a better word. Even the youth go to the earliest albums. Do you really think anyone was inspired by OU812? LOL

To be more specific, Eddie will ALWAYS be relevant but what IS true is that his top dog status was dethroned in the 80s when guitarists like Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Marty Friedman and many others who were much more creative pretty much made him seem tame in comparison.

Don't forget Randy Rhodes and Stevie Ray Vaughn who seemed to have become more influential and famous after their untimely deaths.


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:22
^ oh yeah! Randy Rhoads didn't waste any time taking it to the next level. I've always considered him a hybrid of Ritchie Blackmore, Eddie Van Halen and Tommy Iommi. Rhoads is one of my fave all time guitarists! Stevie was cool too in a totally different way. At least Eddie lived past his prime.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:32
KZOK here in Seattle has been playing VH since about 1pm........I'm starting my tribute now that work is done.



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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:37
^ just listened to that one! Writing reviews for MMA since i'd only done the first album. Can't believe Ed is dead :o


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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:45
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

what IS true is that his top dog status was dethroned in the 80s when guitarists like Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Marty Friedman and many others who were much more creative pretty much made him seem tame in comparison. 


I challenge your "top dog" status. Wink

Malmsteen never was "more creative" than Halen. His songwriting was almost the copycat of Blackmore's. His only standout quality was his perfect (or almost perfect) technique and "perfecting" the style that we today call "neoclassical metal". I like Malmsteen but I don't agree with you.

The song I put here uses the "million dollar riff" of Halen, which Malmsteen cannot come close to, even in his Ferrari. Wink




Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:48
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ just listened to that one! Writing reviews for MMA since i'd only done the first album. Can't believe Ed is dead :o
I'll go check it out when your done......I can believe it, smoking like a chimney will do it to ya. He has said it was more caused by him holding his picks in his mouth as they were made from metal and then all the studio time with all the electronic waves and gear.....Confused.
I have also read the cancer had also moved to his brain, the past 3 days he had gone downhill very fast....His current wife, Valerie, Wolfgang and Alex were at his hospital bed side.

All in all pretty sad.... 


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:50
Van Halen is dead. Can we debate his accolades or lack thereof in another thread?

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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 17:58
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Van Halen is dead. Can we debate his accolades or lack thereof in another thread?


I fully understand your reaction and respect it. On the other hand, being "immortal" is something like this, I think, and lots of artists dedicate their lives to be immortal.

Perhaps it's a bit early and misplaced. You may be right. But I couldn't be silent about what was said. I was actually gonna share Apollo 440's song, to fortify my statement about Halen's exceeding the boundaries of the rock sphere. I just felt like I had to state my opinion about the Malmsteen and Halen comparison.

Sorry for that. 


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 18:02
Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

what IS true is that his top dog status was dethroned in the 80s when guitarists like Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Marty Friedman and many others who were much more creative pretty much made him seem tame in comparison. 


I challenge your "top dog" status. Wink

Malmsteen never was "more creative" than Halen. His songwriting was almost the copycat of Blackmore's. His only standout quality was his perfect (or almost perfect) technique and "perfecting" the style that we today call "neoclassical metal". I like Malmsteen but I don't agree with you.

The song I put here uses the "million dollar riff" of Halen, which Malmsteen cannot come close to, even in his Ferrari. Wink




Agree with that regard for Malmsteen however he did perfect the shredding technique and surpassed VH. Randy Rhoads was much more innovative. I'm not really a Malmsteen fan although i respect him. Van Halen was more than Eddie, it was a real entertaining band and all the clashes of ego that went with it. I really wish Eddie would've done more shredding tunes like ERUPTION. He never really did anything like that ever again.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 18:03
No harm done. Lets just save it for another time, ok?

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 18:21
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I posted this earlier in the RIP thread and also just saw it mentioned on the news(of course I knew they had to mention it). A really sad day for rock fans no matter what your favorite style is. He was so influential and important and above all talented. RIP Eddie. 


I love that so much. And this. I love this.






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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 20:24
thanking back over EVH this evening.. a little known fact.. he was indirectly responsible for the creation of one of the great early internet music sites.

anyone remember the RS 2003 guitarist list...  oh my god what a sh*t storm of disbelief that unleashed.. and led Lew to create the DDD site where to give a cyber FU to RS and have real, famous and not, musicians create good lists.

a very quick summary

68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 20:36
^ i hate those f**king stupid lists! They make ZERO sense. I mean how long does it take to master an EVH song as opposed to Kurt friggin Cobain? Songwriter doesn't equate to guitarist. Blatblammit!


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 20:41
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

[QUOTE=siLLy puPPy] ...mediocre crap.[QUOTE] Sorry bro, but I wish I could play some of his "mediocre crap."

LOL!!  I played bass in a band in the early 1980s that performed "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love," a fine song & great fun to play!!  

Yelling HEY HEY HEY! while playing was harder than you'd think!!  

The band Van Halen was classic California good-times and fun, they really did a lot for all popular music back then!  


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 06 2020 at 20:43
The first concert I ever attended was The Monsters of Rock in 1988.  It was less than a month after I graduated high school and Van Halen were the headline act with Metallica, Scorpions, Dokken and Kingdom Come.  When I bought my first CD player the one of the two first CDs that I bought at the same time was Van Halen's OU812.  Man I loved that CD.  I never saw them with DLR, both times that I saw them live were with Sammy.  Such an awesome band and such great memories.

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 00:32
My favorite guitar player of all time, at a loss for words. The reason I picked up guitar at 16 was to rock, many years before discovering the progressive version OF it.

Many whammy dives, pinch harmonics, and two-handed tapping runs today. RIP EVH 5150.


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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 00:53
What a sad news. I'm not a big fan of VH but love much their "cheap" video clip of Jump. Cry





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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 00:58
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 01:41

RIP, EddieCry

Only bought your first three albums, and I still only have the first one, but I'll be spinning it this w-e once it is within hand's reach.
Originally posted by DamoXt7942 DamoXt7942 wrote:

What a sad news. I'm not a big fan of VH but love much their "cheap" video clip of Jump. Cry





Isn't it somehow sad that for one of the most revered hard-rock guitarist like EVH, his most remembered and iconic moment is a crappy synth crappy-solo?? ConfusedOuchAngry

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 03:10
I still remember when my guitarist mate and I first heard "Eruption". Jaws dropped in a major way.
 
RIP EVH. As Mr Trane said, it's a shame that the clip they showed of Van Halen on GMB today was the keyboard intro to Jump. I know it's their biggest hit but don't talk about his guitar playing without showing some of it.


Posted By: thief
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 03:18
Oh my oh my, I couldn't believe the news!!! The guy was still young-ish, seemingly in a good shape, touring, enjoying life, 65 is WAY TOO EARLY Confused Cancer is b*tch!

Eddie, Eddie Van Halen, he was always there, the guy who connected the dots between 70s Rock Riffing Gods and 80s Trailblazing Lightspeed Metal Extravaganza... dive bombs, pinched harmonics and SHRED had become the Alphabet of the new guitar era, it established a new standard for years to come, and influenced thousands upon thousand of young guitarists... To this day people learn intricacies of Floyd Rose with Eddie on their mind; they are still looking for that meaty, "brown", intoxicating sound, full of flanger, phaser and COOL!

But most importantly, to me, he was a symbol of his time, representing the Western youth, daring enough to push the envelope WHILE having fun in California sun, Sat morning, all weekend ahead...

He will be sorely missed and I'm very sad it happened this way, he deserved better!


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 08:40
^ And from my knowledge he was a chill guy whom treated fans with respect. he was a virtouso with a ddrive and passion but not a snob -a gentle artist ehom kept hes humanity intact. Hes herritage and way of communicating the craft is best preserved and kept through one of hes "students"/influenced-by Paul Gilbert whom is truest to Van Halens style today.

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 12:27
Twenty-two hours and this thread has already gone four pages. A fine, fine guitarist who wrote the book on flashy guitar solos. Unfortunately, Mr. Van Halen had prior health problems that probably contributed to his untimely demise. Not a Van Halen fan, but I recognize Mr. Van Halen's great worth to the rock community. He will undoubtedly be missed.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 12:48
Per a Billboard interview conducted in 2015, and Sammy Hagar's book Red, Ed was indeed a heavy user and boozer.

Ed himself said while they were out on tour, the other guys would hit the town while he preferred to stay in his hotel room to work on his music. That's the kind of guy he was. He did coke and vodka; the former to stay awake, the latter to stay loose. And he'd stay up into the wee hours, working on new musical ideas.

And Ed and Alex smoked a lot.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 13:09
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 13:40


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Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 15:03
So gutted, saw VH support Sabbath on their first UK tour. Bought the first album on import. A few months later I saw them headline at the Rainbow. What a hard rock band. What a guitarist.
R.I.P. Eddie.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 15:24
There was a video on Facebook of his Saturday Night Live appearance from 40+ years ago.  He played guitar along with the house band.  I think that his wife-to-be Valerie Bertinelli was the host that night.  He was younger than I ever remember seeing him, so I assume that it was very early on in his career.

YouTube just has this picture and the sound, not the actual video.



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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 15:46
^I saw that when it aired! It was February '87 and Valerie was indeed the host.




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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 15:49
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

There was a video on Facebook of his Saturday Night Live appearance from 40+ years ago.  He played guitar along with the house band.  I think that his wife-to-be Valerie Bertinelli was the host that night.  He was younger than I ever remember seeing him, so I assume that it was very early on in his career.

YouTube just has this picture and the sound, not the actual video.

I can't embed it, but you can watch the clip in full here:

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/musical-performance---eddie-van-halen/n9553" rel="nofollow - https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/musical-performance---eddie-van-halen/n9553


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2020 at 15:51


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 00:57
He had a quite a 'look' to go with his talent

btw I love the so called 'crappy' synth solo in Jump. I do wonder sometimes if this is a prog site LOL


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 09:14
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

He had a quite a 'look' to go with his talent

btw I love the so called 'crappy' synth solo in Jump. I do wonder sometimes if this is a prog site LOL
It stopped being a prog site in 1990....LOL


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 11:50
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

btw I love the so called 'crappy' synth solo in Jump.

I've loved that crappy synth solo since...1984! LOL

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I do wonder sometimes if this is a prog site LOL

When I saw who said it, I wasn't surprised. LOL
 




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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 12:21
Another fascinating thing about the band is that they'd record with one guitar, one bass, one drum-set, one vocal.   No rhythm overdubs: when Eddie would switch from rhythm to a solo in the studio, no second guitar track would be used.   This not only gave them a unique sound but it also meant their live sets were true to form and sounded like their records.   A rare thing in rock 'n roll.

BTW, Eddie would boil his guitar strings for 20 minutes in order to pre-stretch them and to add that 'rubbery', slinky sound he had.




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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 12:29
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

BTW, Eddie would boil his guitar strings for 20 minutes in order to pre-stretch them and to add that 'rubbery', slinky sound he had.

I could be mistaken, but I think he only did that early on when he was finding the right gauge. Boiling strings is usually done to clean the strings of buildup after many hours of playing. Billy Sheehan does it a lot.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 13:02
He would boil them (sometimes) to pre-stretch them.     Any guitarist will tell you new strings are extremely unstable and will extend & contract without warning, especially when one whams and bends as much as Eddie did.   He was a guitarist's guitarist, and had many tricks including "tweaking" the whammie-bar while using the Floyd Rose system he helped pioneer because the thing would throw guitars out of tune with no more than a light breeze.



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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 22:50
Prog or not Eddie was one of the best if not the best guitarist I've ever heard ... RIP eddie dying the way you did is just sad. Cry


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 09 2020 at 14:18


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 13 2020 at 12:17
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Another fascinating thing about the band is that they'd record with one guitar, one bass, one drum-set, one vocal.   No rhythm overdubs: when Eddie would switch from rhythm to a solo in the studio, no second guitar track would be used.   This not only gave them a unique sound but it also meant their live sets were true to form and sounded like their records.   A rare thing in rock 'n roll.

BTW, Eddie would boil his guitar strings for 20 minutes in order to pre-stretch them and to add that 'rubbery', slinky sound he had.



that is an extrordinary information and very cool to know when one knows hove viable overdubbing even in the day of gluing tape was norm. Integrity in the recording booth, they did not havf to do it tha tway but they had the integrity to do it that way, and it sounds real and authentic doing so.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 13 2020 at 12:39
^ Absolutely, they'd been making music that way since they formed.   And of course when Eddie & Alex were kids they had no choice but to play as a guitar/drums duo, creating the heart of the band's sound.


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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 07:11
Time for commemoration.

R.I.P. Eddie


Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 08:15
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

[QUOTE=The Dark Elf] apparently Sabbath were not happy when so many people were turning up to see the support band and not them Smile
That's not how I remember it. I vividly remember seeing VH open for Sabbath in 1978. It was cool to see this new and upcoming band, who already had a buzz about them after the first album. But those at the show were there for the legends, not the newbies, and Sabbath saw it and appreciated it. As for EVH, he no doubt had a king position as guitarist for many years. Too bad he let so much of the side junk (drugs, cigs, drama) work so much against him.


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 11 2022 at 15:04
Saw Van Halen: Breaking the Band yesterday on REEL t.v., and the guy portraying Eddie was so off (which isn't saying much as the actors they have playing band members in other shows are usually ridiculous). The saving grace was the excellent look-alike they had for Sammy Hagar.

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