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Topic: Recommend some avant prog
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: Recommend some avant prog
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 08:08
Most avant, for me, is hard to enjoy. I like dissonance to an extent, but when they go off the deep end and play arrangements that seem to do nothing but annoy or show off, I shut it down. French TV, Mirthkon, Piniol, some Mr. Bungle and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum I like. Thinking Plague, Yugen, and Univers Zero are out of my comfort zone and I'll never assimilate to.

So my question is what avant bands would you recommend that are similar to what I listed as enjoyable? I know RIO is related to avant on PA and I love Zappa and Keneally. So please don't recommend RIO bands. Thanks.



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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 08:48
Try these for starters:












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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 09:28
The Residents?
 
Or perhaps, associated with The Residents is Snakefinger:
 
 
 


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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 09:36
Now that I have mentioned The Residents, I may as well post this:
 
 
 


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Posted By: Homotopy
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 10:38
Obviously Poil is you mention Piniol
Oz Urugulu, Le Silo, Taal, The Deserts of Traun


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 12:03
Thanks for the recommendations. Some I liked more than others. These are my initial thoughts.

Guapo - Gloomy Anekdoten vibe, good playing.
Secret Chiefs 3 - Not for me. Out there.
John Zorn - Fast and frantic after long intro. Repetitive jam after. Not bad.
Miriodor - Probably my fave. Like how the arrangement of the song is layered.
Snakefinger - Quirky and out there.
The Residents - Dissonance and off time rhythms, not my thing.

I'll check the others out. Thanks all and keep the suggestions coming.




Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 13:24
Ahvak made only one album, but it's a standout.




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 14:31
Not sure whether this is listed under AvantProg, but awesome album:
a.P.A.t.T.'s Fun with Music album is exactly what it says on the tin:

BTW, did you try Cardiacs?


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 14:38
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Ahvak made only one album, but it's a standout.



Thanks. Close to the deep end, but worth checking out.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 14:45






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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 14:52






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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 15:49
Thanks so much I have some listening to do. Some more initial comments.

oO...- Like the heaviness. Vocals are an acquired taste?
a.P.A.T. - Like the classical string influences. Weird video.
Alec K... - Polka jam. Okay.
Cardiacs - Know this band. Very busy music. Need to be in a certain mood to listen to them.
Cheer - Accident - Sounds like Jaza Jazzist. Simple for Avant?
Lost Crowns - Busy like Cardiacs. Intriguing, promising.
Ni - Love it. Brutal, loud and cranky.
Uz Jsme Doma - Wins for funniest video. Not very Avant sounding but love the song.

Thanks to all and keep em coming.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 16:56
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Miriodor - Probably my fave. Like how the arrangement of the song is layered.
Let's try some more, then.







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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 18:00
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Thanks so much I have some listening to do. Some more initial comments.

oO...- Like the heaviness. Vocals are an acquired taste?
a.P.A.T. - Like the classical string influences. Weird video.
Alec K... - Polka jam. Okay.
Cardiacs - Know this band. Very busy music. Need to be in a certain mood to listen to them.
Cheer - Accident - Sounds like Jaza Jazzist. Simple for Avant?
Lost Crowns - Busy like Cardiacs. Intriguing, promising.
Ni - Love it. Brutal, loud and cranky.
Uz Jsme Doma - Wins for funniest video. Not very Avant sounding but love the song.

Thanks to all and keep em coming.

Alec K - yeah, it's accordion based avant folk with loads of effects.
Cheer-Accident are deceptively simple, there's loads going on, stick with them.
Lost Crowns - London based band associated with Cardiacs collective so there's certainly a connection.
Ni - one half of Piniol (the other being Poil, hence the band name) 
Uz Jsme Doma are kinda like a Czech Cardiacs, punky with loads going on, Avant enough to play the Rock In Opposition festival, great band.


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 08:36
Thanks for the additional entries Mascodagama. I liked ALIIG. The others lie outside my comfort zone.

Again, thanks to everyone. I have a lot of bands to check out. There is so much great music that I will never hear but I'll always keep searching.


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:06
Liquid Tension Experiment??



Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:07
P.S why can't I embed youtube videos??


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:10
Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

P.S why can't I embed youtube videos??
 
To embed videos, you place only the video ID between the TUBE tags.
 
 


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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:11
Magic, thanks


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:25
"Godzilla Loves me, I'm an Ashtray" by the Deep Freeze Mice.



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:56
And another two other epics of them:

"A Trillion Sprods".



"The Octagonal Rabbit Surplus".




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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 10:09
If you're not looking for stuff that's too out there, these bands are relatively approachable in my opinion:



Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:17
Thanks for the entries. More initial thoughts.

LTE - Used to love them, not so much anymore. Avant?? More metal with the how many notes can we fit in a measure vibe.
The Deep Freeze Mice - Very 60's sounding epic songs. Not my thing. "The Octagonal Rabbit Surplus" is the opposite of what I'm looking for.
Salle Gaveau - Like it. Classical/jazzy feel.
Wha Ha Ha - Extremely out there. Pass.
Harpy - Odd yet fun short song. Can't say I enjoy the singer.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:27
Have you heard Alamaailman Vasarat?  They have a fun folky avant sound.  Might be too out there, but here is an example.






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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:51

The following is classified as RIO/Avant-Prog but sounds like jazz to me, although it may be too avant for Jazz Rock/Fusion:
 
 
Hermann Szobel - Mr. Softee
 


 



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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 09:16
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Have you heard Alamaailman Vasarat?  They have a fun folky avant sound.  Might be too out there, but here is an example.





Great add! ClapClap


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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 23 2020 at 03:27
Gosta Berlings Saga - Konkret Musik (Sweden/2020). Smile


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 23 2020 at 03:37
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

The following is classified as RIO/Avant-Prog but sounds like jazz to me, although it may be too avant for Jazz Rock/Fusion:
 
 
Hermann Szobel - Mr. Softee
 

I dunno if I call it avant prog, but this is a great record however you categorise it. From what I remember Szobel is a bit of an enigma - rolled into New York, recorded one killer album, then vanished from the radar never to surface again.  A great shame.

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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: October 23 2020 at 03:44
John Zorn - although I think it was already suggested.
But also, Far Corner and Univers Zero


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 23 2020 at 03:53
Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

John Zorn - although I think it was already suggested.
I posted a track from one of Zorn's Abraxas albums. But Zorn's oeuvre is of course vast, and even that part of it which can reasonably be called "avant prog" contains a diversity of styles and approaches. Which is my excuse to post something else, from his Simulacrum trio Wink






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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: October 23 2020 at 04:42
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

John Zorn - although I think it was already suggested.
I posted a track from one of Zorn's Abraxas albums. But Zorn's oeuvre is of course vast, and even that part of it which can reasonably be called "avant prog" contains a diversity of styles and approaches. Which is my excuse to post something else, from his Simulacrum trio Wink





Cool


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 01:40
I know I kind of missed the boat but just saw this topic (hadn;t been on the site much since October).

I know that RIO was discounted, but for one who likes Zappa and French TV, Samla Maamas Manna might be up the right alley (this is from before the band joined RIO, but they were one of the original six in the first festival and are a core RIO band).



And Frogg Cafe as rather avant and heavily influenced by Zappa, methinks you probably know it. No matter how well it fits (not a very avant choice, but because I think you might well dig this):



And Miriodor is another that I think could well fit very well. This is a live from the latest album (recommended):





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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 02:08
This is still/will always be the top of the avant prog heap for me. Once it clicks, all other avant makes sense in its servitude to the great Trout Mask Replica:




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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 07:58
"Across the Universe of Languages" by the band B for Bang. They were rejected by the RIO/Avant team of the archives (which in my opinion was unjustified).

Here two examples:






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