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Topic: Prog that could pass as Christmas MusicPosted By: brittneyspike
Subject: Prog that could pass as Christmas Music
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 14:29
So it's that time of the year again. Families come together to create a festive atmosphere. Traditions dripping from the walls.
A lot of elbow grease is involved.
Cleanings.
Wrapping.
Cooking.
Decorating.
All to, if tradition decides, earbleed inducing croones.
What Prog can pass as Christmas Music, that one may slip in and enjoy uninterupted while dutifully peeling potatoes?
Replies: Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 14:47
Many things but one classic ...and Tull did an album of their songs they called 'The Christmas Album'.
www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3625
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:05
Greg Lake - I Believe in Father Christmas
Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:07
dr wu23 wrote:
Many things but one classic ...and Tull did an album of their songs they called 'The Christmas Album'.
www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3625
Thank you.
I have in the past tried to slide this one, which in my mind should fit the theme (and I just love it), in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LGhw3qS0Gg
It's never been a restounding success
Edit - and now im confused on how to properly tag videos
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:07
But even though they did some Xmas songs can Tull or Lake's tunes really pass as prog rock...?
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:11
A band I like that has a very medieval folk sound that works well at Christmas imho....
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:15
This Tull track is on the Tull Christmas lp..
click on 'insert movie' from the task bar above the blank field and copy and paste the url into the box provided
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Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:28
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Greg Lake - I Believe in Father Christmas
I don't think this qualifies as prog, and in my mind explosives are reserved for New Years Eve
Thank you to Dr Wu for the fine instructions
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:30
The December People released an album awhile back where they play traditional Christmas songs in the style of different prog bands. I can't remember all of the styles, but I know that they included Yes and Kansas.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:31
Let's be real. There are no real prog Christmas songs by well known prog artists but these posted songs are close as we'll ever get. And Father Christmas by Lake is a great song.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 16:07
I know it might sound strange but I used to think of "closer to the heart" by Rush as an almost christmas kind of song because of the bells in it. Also, "blood on the rooftops" by Genesis because of the line "we always watch the queen on Christmas day."
Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 16:07
SteveG wrote:
Let's be real. There are no real prog Christmas songs by well known prog artists but these posted songs are close as we'll ever get. And Father Christmas by Lake is a great song.
Last point first - pretty regular song - a few chords, standard harmonies, not much going on in the rythm section.It's a more or less a standad christmas pop song, however well done it is.
And to the first, I'm not asking for Christmas songs as such, necessarely, I just want to peel potatoes, which should take 12-15 minutes, with a song playing that isn't all of a sudden shut off or replaced, by rarely seen (and frankly not that loved) family member in vicinity of the music playing control device, due to said songs purported incompatability with the musical dogma of this Jolly Season.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 16:12
The Moody Blues - Don't Need a Reindeer
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 16:18
brittneyspike wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Greg Lake - I Believe in Father Christmas
I don't think this qualifies as prog...
Although I Believe in Father Christmas isn't a prog song as such, it's on ELP's proggy Works 2 album.
Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 16:50
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I know it might sound strange but I used to think of "closer to the heart" by Rush as an almost christmas kind of song because of the bells in it.
Now we're talking. For a little while - and actually arthritic uncles reaction at 1:31 may not leave him time to shut it prematurely down before it ends. GOOOD.
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Also, "blood on the rooftops" by Genesis because of the line "we always watch the queen on Christmas day."
Elevator music. We have regular houses, stairs included.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 16:55
Larks Tongues in Aspic Part 2 always puts me in the Christmas Spirit!
I think Mr. Fripp borrowed the rhythm for LTIA Part 2 from this Krampus parade!!
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Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 17:06
rushfan4 wrote:
The December People released an album awhile back where they play traditional Christmas songs in the style of different prog bands. I can't remember all of the styles, but I know that they included Yes and Kansas.
LOL. Never heard of these - haven' found any of those you're thinking about yet, but White Christmas in a White Wedding style has some party potential.
NAIZ
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 17:15
The Trans Siberian Orchestra had a whole sackload of Christmas stocking-filler albums:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve_and_Other_Stories" rel="nofollow - - The Christmas Attic (1998)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghosts_of_Christmas_Eve" rel="nofollow - - Beethoven's Last Night (2000)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Christmas_Eve" rel="nofollow - - Night Castle (2009)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_of_Fireflies" rel="nofollow - - Tales of Winter: Selections from the TSO Rock Operas (compilation) (2013)
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 17:16
^ EDIT: looks like someone already suggested this while I was typing.
I don't particularly like Trans Siberian Orchestra, but don't they do some neo-prog Christmas music such as Caol of the Bells etc. Personally I like the dog bark version of Jingle Bells.
Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 17:32
rushfan4 wrote:
The December People released an album awhile back where they play traditional Christmas songs in the style of different prog bands. I can't remember all of the styles, but I know that they included Yes and Kansas.
Getting there (but it would get shut down)
Posted By: brittneyspike
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 17:42
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
The Moody Blues - Don't Need a Reindeer
Travelling Wilburys comes to mind. Nice progless song.
As such, disqualified.
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 20:34
Keith Emerson- The Christmas Album (He makes everything sound proggy)
Jon Anderson - 3Ships ('cause, well, it's Jon Anderson)
Jethro Tull - The Jethro Tull Christmas Album (see above)
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 20:38
Much harder to find Chanukkah prog. Chappy Chanukkah (say that five times fast, really clears the throat)!
P.S. When I was a kid, I was perplexed by the lack of well-known Chanukkah songs, so my dad wrote Bruce Bruce the Hanukkah Moose. It started off as a simple rhyming song, and turned into a children's book, featuring a CD with narration and singing from my dad and yours truly (at 8 years old). Not prog though, more folk-singer klezmer.
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 20:40
Nektar - Magic is a Child
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 21:06
brittneyspike wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I know it might sound strange but I used to think of "closer to the heart" by Rush as an almost christmas kind of song because of the bells in it.
Now we're talking. For a little while - and actually arthritic uncles reaction at 1:31 may not leave him time to shut it prematurely down before it ends. GOOOD.
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Also, "blood on the rooftops" by Genesis because of the line "we always watch the queen on Christmas day."
Elevator music. We have regular houses, stairs included.
In no way is that elevator music. You must be thinking of "your own special way."
Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 21:21
A Christmas Camel by Procol Harum sounds Christmas-like.
I mean...calling it prog is a stretch, but ya know, it's Procol Harum, so I'm mentioning it.
Joy to the World & Carol of the Bells are both pretty cool !
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 23:33
Captain Beefheart - Old Fart At Play (the imagery used describing momma in the kitchen with lard and a rolling pin, gorgeous gingham, dust n dough balls...)
Frank Zappa - Inca Roads (Dukes' mellotron solo and Ruth's vibraphone parts have an undeniable holiday feel to them IMHO)
Frank Zappa - The Grand Wazoo (Title track sounds like something you'd have on in the background at the Christmas Day family gathering, everyone hustling around and preparing, family lounging and chatting, etc. - it's the mood and tone it sets!).
Basically anything brass-heavy or bell heavy lol.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 00:01
I think Pendragon have a nostalgic, optimistic energy that would perfectly suit a Christmas song if they ever did one.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 00:33
Magma - Hortz Fur Dëhn Santa Klaus Blasquiz
Seriously, can’t think of much. Magma KA III has an Allëhlüïa chorus, and the album KA can be quite joyous, and some of the Magma music is joyous for Christmas. I’ve played Magma’s Dondai To an eternal love) on Christmas and it is a marmite track off quite a marmite album.
I’ve also played Comus on Christmas. “Winter is a Coloured Bird” is quite apt for the season.
EDIT: I think a lot of Canterbury Scene music and Prog Folk is good for Christmas. Agree with Gryphon. Caravan's Winter Wine has some season flair to it. And Art Bears' Winter Songs in the RIOish camp.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 01:53
It's more of a general winter song than specifically a Christmas song, but I managed to have "Snowbound" by Genesis put on a Christmas playlist by fooling friends into thinking that it's just a cozy song about a snowman.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 04:10
brittneyspike wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Let's be real. There are no real prog Christmas songs by well known prog artists but these posted songs are close as we'll ever get. And Father Christmas by Lake is a great song.
Last point first - pretty regular song - a few chords, standard harmonies, not much going on in the rythm section.It's a more or less a standad christmas pop song, however well done it is.
And to the first, I'm not asking for Christmas songs as such, necessarely, I just want to peel potatoes, which should take 12-15 minutes, with a song playing that isn't all of a sudden shut off or replaced, by rarely seen (and frankly not that loved) family member in vicinity of the music playing control device, due to said songs purported incompatability with the musical dogma of this Jolly Season.
First off, I said that it wasn't a prog song. Secondly, it's the lyrics and melody that make the song, not it's lack of complexity. And, thirdly, if you're looking for a 15 + minute Christmas song to peel potatoes with, you'd better skip this holiday and concentrate on New Years.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 04:35
Last Christmas (...oh, that makes me think of a song...) Pallas issued a digital only collection of "Christmassy mixes" on their bandcamp page: https://pallasofficial.bandcamp.com/album/christmas-on-the-edge-of-time" rel="nofollow - Christmas on the Edge of Time
With two or three songs you got your potatoes pealed...
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 06:15
Holy Lamb - Yes
Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 07:36
I always thought it odd that Alex Lifeson did this one instead of Neil Peart, but...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 07:42
Yes had one stab at a Christmas song. I like it...I know that most don't.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 08:22
Although "A Christmas Song" is my favorite from Tull, this one may be more proggy, complete with several signature changes:
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 12:57
Run With the Fox - Squire and White
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:11
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
The Trans Siberian Orchestra had a whole sackload of Christmas stocking-filler albums:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve_and_Other_Stories" rel="nofollow - - The Christmas Attic (1998)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghosts_of_Christmas_Eve" rel="nofollow - - Beethoven's Last Night (2000)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Christmas_Eve" rel="nofollow - - Night Castle (2009)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_of_Fireflies" rel="nofollow - - Tales of Winter: Selections from the TSO Rock Operas (compilation) (2013)
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:28
Strawbs have a whole bunch, none better than this
though this more recent one is pretty good too
and then this one from 1980, though I prefer the version from 1991, which I can't find on youtube
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 21:18
Awesoreno wrote:
Much harder to find Chanukkah prog. Chappy Chanukkah (say that five times fast, really clears the throat)!
P.S. When I was a kid, I was perplexed by the lack of well-known Chanukkah songs, so my dad wrote Bruce Bruce the Hanukkah Moose. It started off as a simple rhyming song, and turned into a children's book, featuring a CD with narration and singing from my dad and yours truly (at 8 years old). Not prog though, more folk-singer klezmer.
Happy Chanukkah to you!
Here's a Happy Hanukkah song by the amazing Klezmatics!! (I love klezmer music!)
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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 00:24
C'mon guys everyone knows (!) the first prog Xmas album ever released was by Horslips back in 1975 called Drive The Cold Winter Away...maybe!
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 01:52
brittneyspike wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
The December People released an album awhile back where they play traditional Christmas songs in the style of different prog bands. I can't remember all of the styles, but I know that they included Yes and Kansas.
LOL. Never heard of these - haven' found any of those you're thinking about yet, but White Christmas in a White Wedding style has some party potential.
NAIZ
This album.
Robert Berry put it together. Steve Walsh and John Wetton guest vocals. A full song by Kansas even.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 01:57
And in style of Rush.
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 11:09
cstack3 wrote:
Awesoreno wrote:
Much harder to find Chanukkah prog. Chappy Chanukkah (say that five times fast, really clears the throat)!
P.S. When I was a kid, I was perplexed by the lack of well-known Chanukkah songs, so my dad wrote Bruce Bruce the Hanukkah Moose. It started off as a simple rhyming song, and turned into a children's book, featuring a CD with narration and singing from my dad and yours truly (at 8 years old). Not prog though, more folk-singer klezmer.
Happy Chanukkah to you!
Here's a Happy Hanukkah song by the amazing Klezmatics!! (I love klezmer music!)
Love the muted trumpet!
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 12:57
Hmm. It looks like the OP took his recipe for potatoes au gratin and left the building.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 07:14
For Christ's Sake!
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 11:21
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 11:43
I once made a mix tape that included a lot of prog and related artists:
A Winters Tale - Jade Warrior
A Christmas Song, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Jack Frost and the Hooded Crow, Jack-In-The-Green, Ring Out Solstice Bells, Fires at Midnight, Another Christmas Song, Skating Away on the Thin Ice of the New Day - Jethro Tull
One Misty Moisty Morning - Steeleye Span
A Song for All Seasons - Renaissance
Song of White - Vangelis
Yes, a lot of Tull. All of these were from the original recordings; I made this tape years before the Tull Christmas Album came out. Bruce Cockburn, John Lennon, and the Pretenders round out the tape. We could argue that most of these are less Christmas than they are Winter, but that line has been blurred long ago. As long as it matches the season, it is acceptable to me, especially since I am tired of hearing the same 15 songs over and over again.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 12:00
The December people albums are good but they are pure prog christmas albums. I'm not sure that's what the OP is looking for.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 14:00
Hamburger Concerto, from Focus. The choir near the end is supposed to tell a passage from a traditional dutch chirstmas song...
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 15:29
Dellinger wrote:
Hamburger Concerto, from Focus. The choir near the end is supposed to tell a passage from a traditional dutch chirstmas song...
Excellent suggestion, thank you Dellinger! Finally, something new!!
We go through this exercise EVERY Yuletide, and it's always Greg Lake & "I Believe in Bloody Father Christmas!!"
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 07:34
BarryGlibb wrote:
C'mon guys everyone knows (!) the first prog Xmas album ever released was by Horslips back in 1975 called Drive The Cold Winter Away...maybe!
Holy Virgin, Batman. I forgot about this gem. I will be playing it later today.
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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 07:44
Or........
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 08:09
Mormegil wrote:
Run With the Fox - Squire and White
I Am The Manic Whale have done a good version of this on their recent Christmas selection box release.
I also have to mention the Kate Bush album 50 Words for Snow, which is a bit proggy.
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 14:55
Liked the December People stuff.. unusual for me of that hybrid/cover albums. Maybe I'll take a look.
I'm sure is NOT what you're looking for but I cannot do without mentioning this beauty:
The Endless Engima, Pt. 2
by ELP.
Beacuse of its beautiful (prog & Christmas) bells at the start and its sheer overall progressiveness. It always makes me think of Christmas.
Each time I hear it I imagine something like this (not exactly, but an elegant image of red bells with a green tree on the background):
And a bit of humour as a bonus track : P
Merry Christmas btw
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 23:45
Is Trans-Siberian Orchestra considered eclectic folk Christmas prog?
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 07:56
Just come across this.....
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 12:19
This is probably the best example of this I can think of.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 12:48
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Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 12:53
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 13:18
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 13:56
cstack3 wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Hamburger Concerto, from Focus. The choir near the end is supposed to tell a passage from a traditional dutch chirstmas song...
Excellent suggestion, thank you Dellinger! Finally, something new!!
We go through this exercise EVERY Yuletide, and it's always Greg Lake & "I Believe in Bloody Father Christmas!!"
Well, it's not the first year I suggest that one, since I found out about the supposed origin of those choirs.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 13:57
RaphaelT wrote:
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 13:58
RaphaelT wrote:
Holy Lamb - Yes
Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.
I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 14:28
At least half of BG is prog or proggy:
Shoot high aim low
Holy Lamb (if wonderous stories is prog so is this)
I'm running
Final Eyes
Big Generator
The rest is admittedly rather poppy.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 14:31
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Holy Lamb - Yes
Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.
I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?
Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas.
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 03:55
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Holy Lamb - Yes
Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.
I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?
Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas.
My mistake, I was quoting extension written to Chris Hedges' book about Yes, written by polish journalist.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 05:17
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 05:27
Which is the greatest Prog Christmas album, the Tull one? What would you say?
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 22 2020 at 11:42
RaphaelT wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.
I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 22 2020 at 11:42
A Crimson Mellotron wrote:
Which is the greatest Prog Christmas album, the Tull one? What would you say?
I don't know so many Christmas albums, but yeah, I guess overall that's the one I have liked best so far.
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: December 22 2020 at 11:45
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.
I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.
I've been to it. It's amazing.
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: December 22 2020 at 13:45
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.
I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.
Don't worry, many of the catholics mix Holy Trinity (God, Son of God, Holy Spirit) with Holy Family (Jesus (Son of God), Mary and Saint Joseph).
Well, in catholic tradition cathedrals were not just walls, but also earthly representation of Heaven, of Kingdom to Come. So I think the process of building of the said La Sagrada Familia church (it is not cathedral of Barcelona) can also be the metaphore of bringing the Heaven, the Kingdom to Come. This is also about Christmas because commemorating the first coming of Christ (in the past) in tradition it is also celebrating the future coming of the Christ (the Kingdom to Come).
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: December 22 2020 at 14:13
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 22 2020 at 21:11
Blood on the rooftops---it does take place on Xmas day..".wont you stay?"
(PS--off topic--but always thought Big Gen was a better album than any other Yes west)
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 19:36
RaphaelT wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project
And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.
I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.
Don't worry, many of the catholics mix Holy Trinity (God, Son of God, Holy Spirit) with Holy Family (Jesus (Son of God), Mary and Saint Joseph).
Well, in catholic tradition cathedrals were not just walls, but also earthly representation of Heaven, of Kingdom to Come. So I think the process of building of the said La Sagrada Familia church (it is not cathedral of Barcelona) can also be the metaphore of bringing the Heaven, the Kingdom to Come. This is also about Christmas because commemorating the first coming of Christ (in the past) in tradition it is also celebrating the future coming of the Christ (the Kingdom to Come).
Actually, I don't recall having heard the concept of the Holy Family before. As for the Cathedral thing, I got that impression about La Sagrada Familia because in the narration of the song itself they call it so, and haven't looked up so much about it otherwise (except for the pictures).
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 20:32
Dellinger wrote:
Actually, I don't recall having heard the concept of the Holy Family before. As for the Cathedral thing, I got that impression about La Sagrada Familia because in the narration of the song itself they call it so, and haven't looked up so much about it otherwise (except for the pictures).
Every Catholic knows the concept of the Holy Family....Jesus, Mary and Joseph.***
***Take it from a Catholic School escapee.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 21:29
RaphaelT wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Holy Lamb - Yes
Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.
I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?
Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas.
My mistake, I was quoting extension written to Chris Hedges' book about Yes, written by polish journalist.
I don't know of a Chris Hedges book about Yes. There was a Chris Welch book and a Dan Hedges book(long out of print). Maybe you are conflating the two.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 24 2020 at 00:01
Right on par with my signature Mellotron down below!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 24 2020 at 01:12
The Lamb [of God] Lies Down on Broadway
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: December 24 2020 at 04:34
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Holy Lamb - Yes
Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.
I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?
Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas.
My mistake, I was quoting extension written to Chris Hedges' book about Yes, written by polish journalist.
I don't know of a Chris Hedges book about Yes. There was a Chris Welch book and a Dan Hedges book(long out of print). Maybe you are conflating the two.
Might very well be, since I read both
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 24 2020 at 20:20
SIX O'CLOCK ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING!
6:00 By Dream Theater: The Die Hard of Christmas Songs
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Posted By: freudiana
Date Posted: December 24 2020 at 20:42
Winterthru by echolyn
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 24 2020 at 22:52
dougmcauliffe wrote:
SIX O'CLOCK ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING!
6:00 By Dream Theater: The Die Hard of Christmas Songs
LOL my buddy and I literally joke about this being one of the biggest cringe lyrics, ever .
There are parts on the Maxophone record that have a festive, Christmas feel to them:
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 00:34
Robert Fripp's first guitar was a Christmas gift! Patricia Fripp told me that this photo was taken the day after Christmas. Bob was 11 or 12.
Merry Christmas, one and all!
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 02:26
cstack3 wrote:
Robert Fripp's first guitar was a Christmas gift! Patricia Fripp told me that this photo was taken the day after Christmas. Bob was 11 or 12.
Merry Christmas, one and all!
That is 100%, absolutely, without a doubt, childhood Robert Fripp lol!
Prince (Rupert?!) Crimson here, yeah?
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 11:26
freudiana wrote:
Winterthru by echolyn
I mentioned this one on the bottom of page 3 and also included a link to the video.
One I don't think I mentioned is "blood on the rooftops" by Genesis. It has the line "we always watch the Queen on Christmas day" and so for that reason I like to hear it on Christmas. Over all it's not a Christmas song though but the sound is kind of wintery imo.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 11:29
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
freudiana wrote:
Winterthru by echolyn
I mentioned this one on the bottom of page 3 and also included a link to the video.
One I don't think I mentioned is "blood on the rooftops" by Genesis. It has the line "we always watch the Queen on Christmas day" and so for that reason I like to hear it on Christmas. Over all it's not a Christmas song though but the sound is kind of wintery imo.
Ok, it looks like I did mention that Genesis song on page 1. Ok, now I know my memory is going to crap. Lol.
I guess after that one the closest thing Genesis have to a christmas song is "snowbound."
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 11:34
3:00 of About to Crash (Reprise) by Dream Theater :)
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Posted By: freudiana
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 12:17
British Racing Green by Big Big Train
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 16:10
The Man bands annual Christmas knees up!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 25 2020 at 17:42
Not a Prog song, so off-topic, but as it is Christmas (at least it still is where I live).
"Here comes Santa in his sleigh Those silver bells they sound so gay His shiny sleigh is heaped with toys To give to all good girls and boys...".
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 26 2020 at 17:50
Ok, these songs maybe aren't quite prog but they are from a legend in the genre so they should get mentioned. Also, neither are Christmas songs exactly but are from his Christmas album and have christmas tunes embedded in them.
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but I cannot do without mentioning this beauty:
