Gentle Cardiacs have a Giant Gong Here and Now
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Topic: Gentle Cardiacs have a Giant Gong Here and Now
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Gentle Cardiacs have a Giant Gong Here and Now
Date Posted: January 04 2021 at 12:17
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Cardiacs - "The Everso Closely Guarded Line" Gong - "Master Builder" Here And Now - "What You See Is What You Are" Gentle Giant - "Mister Class and Quality? / Three Friends" ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 04 2021 at 13:18
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GG for me.... also love that tune from Gong ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 04 2021 at 13:32
| Gentle Giant. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: January 04 2021 at 15:04
I'm gonna give Here & Now my vote as theyre the under-dog here and 'Give & Take' is a great lp, a real invigorator for the moribund UK counterculture ------------- |
Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: January 04 2021 at 19:15
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Oh you just had to include two of my favourite bands (GG and Cardiacs) didn't you? In this case, it has to go to Cardiacs. That ending...floors me evertime. ------------- Levitating downwards, atomic feedback scream. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 04 2021 at 23:33
Maybe if these bands were busy Working All Day, they'd be as good as Gentle Giant  .------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 05 2021 at 00:43
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master builder ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Theprogelitist
Date Posted: January 05 2021 at 04:09
| Master Builder but the GG track is nice |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: January 05 2021 at 14:38
| GG |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 05 2021 at 15:57
Thanks for all responses and sorry for not responding to all right now, but I don't want to risk overloading this post with quotes. My posts end up getting longer than most at the best of times which has caused some consternation, frustration and complaints from some.
Here and Now is the album here that I have heard the least, but really want to listen a lot more now. It's wonderful, I think. I really enjoy that album, and that was the impetus for the poll that got me associating. Well, actually I was looking up bands that sound like Cardiacs on Google (I had planned to do "Big Ship" by Cardiacs since I mentioned that in another topic) and one of the results was a topic at PA that I'd seen before where David (Guldbamsen) mentioned this track particularly. My first thought was that it reminded me most of Gong (but of course Gong has similar qualities to Cardiacs, as well as Gentle Giant), and "Master Builder" came to mind. I might have thought of better parallels, but I so love "Master Builder", and this Cardiacs song (a favourite of mine) sprung immediately to mind as well. The epicness and glorious way to my ear that this Cardiacs song finishes reminds me of "Three Friends" (the track). I included both of the two final Three Friends albums tracks as the two are always linked for me (one moves into another). All four of these bands can be related with each other musically quite easily, although might well make different associations, and I might on a different day.
I so love this Cardiacs track, and both the ending of "Three Friends" and "The Everso Closely Guarded Line" have moved me in a very similar way. Some say that Cardiacs is not progressive, but to me such music is inherently progressive. Like with GG, Cardiacs could present an awful lot and make interesting tonal shifts and make twists in a short time. Sometimes both might seem a little disjointed and frenetic at times... and maybe a little zenetic, by way of segue...
One might say "Maybe if these bands were all at the Gong level of being "Master Builders", then they'd be as good as Gong" as well. But instead of saying good, instead I'd say it's much more subjective and "What you See is What You Are" as it reflects more on the individual psyche than objective reality. Some will always vote for the song by the band that is in-line with their own "Everso Closely Guarded Line" (people can be quite defensive in matters of taste), and may rarely step out of their comfort zones to give the new or lesser-known to them an equal opportunity. I tend to favour newer discoveries (particularly in polls where I had not known all the choices very well). I'm not taking this that seriously, but I wanted to riff a bit on your song word play. That said, this being my poll, and all loved by me, I won't vote (I rarely vote in my own polls that mention favourites of mine, that's would be rather like choosing between my children (not that I couldn't do that, but it would seem unfair somehow). Normally I do such things as multiple votes. Suffice to say, all four of these have a certain similar energy about them to me. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 06 2021 at 07:53
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By the way, any thoughts on what might have worked better together as I’m not sure that I associated the best examples of all four? ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 06 2021 at 07:58
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Nice. Put one that I don't know between three already good ones, that's how you get me to listen to it. Except that the Here and Now one doesn't quite convince me, although it's OK. Regarding the vote, absolutely Cardiacs. |