Tangerine Dream - Zeit
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Topic: Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 09:08
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This might have been fun, if vulgar, to make with the options "I prefer the contents of a bedpan" and "I prefer Zeit" (a reference to a recent post), but since there has been some talk of this recent album and I know it is one of the more divisive ones in PA, I am interested to get people's opinions on it. I did a poll on various divisive albums many years ago, and this one fared well as I recall. Please do leave a comment instead of just voting. In any poll, if applicable, I'm more interested in the thoughts that are expressed than just in the poll results. I like Zeit, and on some days I really love it. It's an album that I have to be in the right mood and space to want to play, but then that's true of most albums. With Zeit that is a little more true than with most albums methinks. Just vote for the options that you think best fits you. I vote "like". ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 09:09
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Just one word - masterpiece, no need for any more words. So, option 1 would be valid for me. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 09:25
You won't be surprised to hear I'm not a big fan of the first four Tangerine Dream albums. Their discography really begins for me with the classic Phaedra album. 
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 09:42
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You all know how I voted. 
How about Atem, the first album with Baumann? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Psychedelic Paul wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 09:45
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^ and ^^ I would have thought that Atem would have appealed to you too, Paul (or at least had some appeal). I was going to write the same thing. Funnily enough, at one time their discography really ended for me with Phaedra. The first albums were my favourites, but I came to appreciate much more of the discography. I had already heard Phaedra and not liked it originally, and it was earing the debut that turned me into a Tangerine Dream fan. Now I like Phaedra very much. By the way, have you heard Michael Hoenig's Departure from the Northern Wasteland, Paul? If not, you should like it. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:07
Alpha Centauri, Zeit & Atem are all a bit too ambient and slow-moving for my tastes. I much-prefer Tangerine Dream's classic sequencer-driven sound, which reached new heights for me with the Stratosfear album.  On the question of Michael Hoenig's album, this is the first time I've heard of Michael Hoenig, but I'll certainly look out for him on YouTube.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:11
It would've been my mission to turn you on to Rubycon...! (*and Ricochet, Stratosfear and Encore)
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:19
It's a sequencer fest. Can't wait to hear what you think of "Voices of Where."------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:51
I actually can't fathom why I ever would not have liked those albums (not that I knew all of those). They are brilliant, and in fact those are the Tangerine Dream albums that I would be most likely to play these days. I think I just tried later Tangerine Dream at the wrong time and in the wrong mood. It was a long time ago. By the way, Kitaro was the first electronic artist that I ever really got heavily into (with Oasis back in the 80s). ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 11:15
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The right option is not there, for me... I don't like the album, but I don't dislike it either - that's too strong a word. But I'm not ambivalent either, I think, which has probably more to do with my general stance on Tangerine Dream and electronic music in general: I'm not much into the more meditative kind of electronic music... From Tangerine Dream I prefer their first album, Electronic Meditation. Alpha Centauri is OK, but after that they start to explore too much the dullness of the universe, in my opinion. And they're very good at that, actually. So, sometimes I like to hear some of their later work, but not too much because it gets me bored rather quickly... Zeit leaves me quite indifferent (which is not really ambivalent, I think...). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 11:48
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Indifferent is a good word (just didn't come to me at the time), and I will add that to the ambivalent option. I like it when people care about language/ the right terminology. My language skills have gone downhill over the past few years. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 11:52
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^ One point, then, for that option. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 11:56
Nice! I first heard Kitaro on a tape given to me by an older cousin (who got it from someone else, but he knew I was into that sort of stuff). I didn't know which album it was at the time (the debut, Ten Kai (Astral Trip), but I loved it. It was unlike Tangerine Dream, Jarre or Vangelis, and different was good. The first album I bought (on cassette) was Ki. Loved it. FF and I love all the early analog stuff: Ten Kai, Oasis, In Person, Toward the West, Silver Cloud...anything before Tenku.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 12:50
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I like it. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 13:31
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I also like it ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 15:04
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'Songs the size of planets with titles the size of cities'. ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 15:08
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Ah yes, 80 minutes of refrigerator hum noises The album def has value though, it's a great album to throw on before bed around here. Pretty eerie stuff. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 17:53
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I found it OK when I bought it in the early eighties, I didn't get much out of it for some time, and for the last 10 years now I find it really great. Still, the current result of 13:1:2:1 proves in the first place that people who take part here are not representative. I think the majority either doesn't know it or dislikes it so much that they wouldn't even click on this poll.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 02:00
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Shhh, I would rather that not be made so obvious. ;) I toyed with the idea of entitling this “Tangerine Dream’s Zeit, wet dream or nightmare?” Or some such thing. Of course seeing the title as is, most of the haters and the indifferent would not bother to check this thread thinking it just another appreciation thread that likely lists the tracks. We have got a lot of those kinds of polls. I would not check many polls or topics about bands or albums of which I have very little to no interest (especially when it comes to familiar names in my case, and I don’t want complian about albums I don’t like. I would rather focus on what I do like and think might be of interest). If it was put as love or hate in the title, more would vote methinks, and I would not be at all surprised if some would vote hate who hadn’t even heard it just to be negative or clownish. I’m fine that this ended up being more of an appreciation thread. Votes don’t matter to me, but the comments are what I enjoy, and if I also get fewer negative comments, well, that’s fine by me, although I do like to read about what people like and dislike, and their thinking or reasons to go along with it if they are inclined to do so. I would expect most to be apathetic upon seeing this topic, less so if I titled it differently, but I went with a mundane title even if I would hardly call the album mundane. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 03:15
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With Ricochet, Zeit was my first Tangerine album bought (stunning artwork, really) way back then .... and to say the least, I WTF'd heavily at it when I listened to it - at age 13, I wasn't ready for THAT!!! Ricochet was and is still amlongst my fave. Now, I tend to think of it as their magnum opus, though I wouldn't place it above Alpha Centauri, Ricochet or Force majeure. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 03:51
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Early T Dream is marvellous. Many bands go through different periods of style. So much better than when they hit their Rubicon disco era. No. Just kidding. Relax. Composition standard went off the scale with Phaedra. But they had to get there and Zeit was the time for it. This band jammed at Salvadore Dali's place. Still can't get over that...
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 06:49
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Pass. I prefer their sequencer-driven material. Droning ambient music, by them or anyone else, just doesn't flick my switch. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 12:12
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Love Love Love IT!!!! ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Artik
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 13:43
| I keep seeing an info I can't vote on any poll (not sure why) but the right option for me would be "I absolutely LOVE it". It's magnificent. It's one of probably four albums I ever heard in my life, that took me some places I have never been before. And I don't need drugs, Zeit is drugs :) Transcendental masterpiece for me. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 13:46
You'll be able to vote in polls when you have around 40 points and you'll be promoted to a 2-star Forum Groupie at the same time.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 13:48
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You need 40 points to vote in polls (doesn't take long to build that up when posting), this was done to prevent abuse which happened before, and it also encourages people to post. I'll give you a thanks which adds five points to your "Points" count. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 17:07
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Julian Cope said that when Zeit is on, it changes a room - live it or hate it, people notice it. Once I put it on, it must be played thru. I own an LP copy, but this is one instance where digital wins out - it's a gas being able to take it all in without having to get out of the bean bag chair. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 04:27
Ah, that makes me think of Boris Vian's novel L'écume des jours (Froth on the Daydream), when they put up Duke Ellington and Johnny Hodges' record The Mood to Be Wooed... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 11:31
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You have to have time for "Zeit". -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 12:22
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