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Topic: Benefit by Jethro Tull.
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: Benefit by Jethro Tull.
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:10
An album I find transitional and workmanlike, but with impressive lyrics, while some find it a near masterpiece. What's your opinion on Benefit?

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:14
3rd or 4th fave Tull album, after Thick, Heavy Horses, maybe Songs from the Wood or Aqualung.
I LOVE about half the songs.  As I say every time I talk about it, it has a great singer/songwriter vibe to me, especially the wonderful "Inside", which, with a different arrangement, could have been a Gordon Lightfoot song Geek


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:22
Hmmm. I just popped in "Inside" to ponder your thesis.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:24
By cracky, it does have that bucolic 60s folk vibe.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:28
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

By cracky, it does have that bucolic 60s folk vibe.

now imagine Lightfoot singing it with mostly acoustic guitar backing


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:28
Maybe in my top 5 favourite Tull albums, maybe just missed out, it's tough to say.
Cry Me A Song is definitely my favourite track.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:31
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

By cracky, it does have that bucolic 60s folk vibe.


now imagine Lightfoot singing it with mostly acoustic guitar backing


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 14:46
'Benefit' is one of my all time favorite lp's by Tull. Also love 'Stand Up' and 'Aqulaung'.
Like all the early stuff ....would keep the frist 4 over anything else they did...though I do like TAAB, Minstrel, Songs, Horses and Stormwatch. Also a fan of 'Living In The Past'.
At one time 'Benefit' was my favorite ..might still be though 'Aqualung' is right there also.

I prefer Tull when Anderson is writing shorter witty rock songs. I don't think his forte was TAAB and PP though some think so. Not to say those were bad lps...they were good ,,just not what Tull represented for me.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 15:09
Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 15:16
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?






Mmm YES

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 15:19
Average at best. 

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 15:25
Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?






Mmm YES
is that your final answer?

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 15:58
A very good Tull album sandwiched between two great albums, Stand Up and Aqualung. Some of the songs from that era are even better than what was on the album, like Witch's Promise and Sweet Dream. 

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Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 16:10
Slate me amongst those who rate Benefit quite low. Probably my least favourite of the 1960s-1970s albums. I actually choose to listen to This Was more often than Benefit, and Stand Up seems like the much better realisation of that version of the band. 
Not sure why it doesn't grab me, but it just doesn't.  

I'll have to go and give it another listen.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 17:31
I've  never thought much of it. It's not bad but always stuck me as kind of ho hum. Maybe I should revisit? 


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 17:48
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?

Well...I don't really rate many lp's as masterpieces no matter what the band is; people throw that word around too easily imho. I think 'Benefit' deserves over 4 stars here but it is only rated at 3.91. Imho it's better than 'Stand Up' regarding 'musical ideas' (though Stand Up has good songs they are basically blues rock)  Benefit moves forward and some of it 'bleeds into' Aqualung if you listen to it. I have always thought TAAB is one of those overrated (there's that word again) albums. It's only two songs fleshed out into enough material to cover two sides and as many have pointed out was an inside joke by Anderson. It would be very interesting to see what lp's he likes by his own band and what he truly thinks of TAAB compared to the other well liked lp's.


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 18:44
Let me cut to the chase, "Benefit" is my favorite Tull album.  Whenever I hear a song from this album I think of high school.  This is the album that brought me to Jethro Tull and has remained my favorite all of these years.




Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 19:00
Thumbs Up


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 19:59
For those who think Benefit is not that great...well, I was in that camp as a 16 year-old (in 1974) listening to it for the first half a dozen times. I kept listening to it and really, it to me is a masterpiece and actually like it much better than Aqualung and to me it's just as good as Stand Up and even slightly better.

With You There To Help Me  10/10
Nothing To Say 10/10 (The greatest unheralded track in Tull's entire catalogue)
Alive And Well And Living In (UK album) 9/10
Teacher (US album) 10/10
Son 10/10
For Michael Collins; Jeffrey and Me 10/10
To Cry You A Song 9/10
A Time For Everything 8/10
Inside 9/10
Play In Time 8/10
Sossity; You're A Woman 10/10

Hmmm, this makes it my 2nd favourite Tull album with those ratings. Pete Pardo from Sea of Tranquillity actually has Benefit as his favourite Tull album...and I almost agree with him.
Can't believe it is only rated 3.91 currently on PA.



Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 20:08
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Let me cut to the chase, "Benefit" is my favorite Tull album.  Whenever I hear a song from this album I think of high school.  This is the album that brought me to Jethro Tull and has remained my favorite all of these years.



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Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 22:39
Stand Up is my favorite Tull, but I've listened to Benefit a lot over the years as well. After Cornick and Bunker were gone, I lost interest in the band.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 28 2021 at 23:25
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Let me cut to the chase, "Benefit" is my favorite Tull album.  Whenever I hear a song from this album I think of high school.  This is the album that brought me to Jethro Tull and has remained my favorite all of these years.


 To clarify, the original UK album release did not include "Teacher", which was released as a stand alone single in the UK. And this video is not the version included in the US album release as it featured Anderson's flute in the instrumental break and this, the UK single version, does not.

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 00:07
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?






Mmm YES
is that your final answer?




Mmm mmm YES!

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 04:33
Ok, after pondering all that was posted here by the Tull heads who love Benefit (and even Father Don Pardo from SOT), I gave Benefit another close listen and determined that it's a good album but it's still no Aqualung. Tongue

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 09:44
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ok, after pondering all that was posted here by the Tull heads who love Benefit (and even Father Don Pardo from SOT), I gave Benefit another close listen and determined that it's a good album but it's still no Aqualung. Tongue

Agreed...'Aqualung' is better, ... now that we have settled that......can we agree that TAAB and PP are
 self-indulgent  overated albums...?
Wink


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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 09:46
PP for sure, but TAAB is just too good


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 11:17
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ok, after pondering all that was posted here by the Tull heads who love Benefit (and even Father Don Pardo from SOT), I gave Benefit another close listen and determined that it's a good album but it's still no Aqualung. Tongue

Agreed...'Aqualung' is better, ... now that we have settled that......can we agree that TAAB and PP are
 self-indulgent  overated albums...?
Wink
Hmm...overrated? No. Self-indulgent? Absolutely, just like all the other great prog albums. LOL

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 12:06
Originally posted by Tancos Tancos wrote:

Stand Up is my favorite Tull, but I've listened to Benefit a lot over the years as well. After Cornick and Bunker were gone, I lost interest in the band.
Same here, very different band after those two were gone.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 12:19
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Tancos Tancos wrote:

Stand Up is my favorite Tull, but I've listened to Benefit a lot over the years as well. After Cornick and Bunker were gone, I lost interest in the band.
Same here, very different band after those two were gone.
I would agree that losing Cornick for Aqualung was tragic. Just listen to what Cornick brings to "My God" on the 1970 Isle Of Wight concert.

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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 15:00
Teacher and Witches promise are two 1970 classics

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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 15:18
I love Benefit; They were a very different band making that lp from the band that made Aqualung; not just line-up.. Aqualung is a much more sophisticated lp but Benefit is not a lesser album for that.. it has a simpler, rougher edged, more direct vibe and is a natural staging point between Stand up and Aqualung and feels similar to Family's 'Song for me' lp which came out the same year, a real rough diamond.

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