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Topic: What band can you not beleive is more popular?
Posted By: HelloKitten
Subject: What band can you not beleive is more popular?
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:51
As the title says. Some bands just seem to have everything, that is everything except the diehard fanbase that some other bands have. Which bands can you absolutely not believe aren't bigger than they are?



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:57
Lifesigns
I Am The Manic Whale
probably every other prog band I like


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:58
The Red Masque


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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:03
Camel, XTC, Renaissance, Steve Hillage, Strawbs

Like yeah these groups are beloved and revered to those who know them, but I think they all deserve some wider recognition. Renaissance has a lot of songs from their heyday which I could totally see getting some radio airplay especially, Let It Grow, Carpets of the Sun, On the Frontier, I Think of You, Vultures Fly High to name a few

In prog circles, Triana, Linda Perhacs, Yezda Urfa, Happy the Man


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:22
Yes, PG era Genesis, Gentle Giant, Camel, ELP, PFM, Eloy, VDGG, Marillion, IQ. I could probably go on and on.

I mentioned those bands but it's relative. Compared to later Genesis, Rush and Pink Floyd I think they are all very under rated and under recognized outside of prog circles these days. I didn't mention King Crimson or Porcupine Tree partly because I think they have pretty big followings these days among younger folks and among music fans in general although not as much as PF and Rush. Out of those I did mention Camel does seem to have a bigger following among younger people these days at least partly because they are an acknowledged influence on Opeth.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:27
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

The Red Masque

Great choice and a great band.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:28
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Camel, XTC, Renaissance, Steve Hillage, Strawbs

Like yeah these groups are beloved and revered to those who know them, but I think they all deserve some wider recognition. Renaissance has a lot of songs from their heyday which I could totally see getting some radio airplay especially, Let It Grow, Carpets of the Sun, On the Frontier, I Think of You, Vultures Fly High to name a few

In prog circles, Triana, Linda Perhacs, Yezda Urfa, Happy the Man

Maybe in the past five to ten years or so HTM has been buried under the carpet but before that they were considered to be by many to be the best prog band in the US. They even headlined the second Nearfest in 2000. The Muffins are another band from the same era and location(DC/VA area) who are a bit overlooked these days. Personally I have more of a  hard time considering HTM to be underrated among prog fans though unless we are talking just younger prog fans.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:37
Spock's Beard
Riverside
Bent Knee
Sound Of Contact
OSI
IQ
Ana_thema


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:46
Most of the bands I listen to. Here's a few.

Mike Keneally
The Aristocrats
Big Big Train
Echolyn
Freak Kitchen
Frost*
Helmet of Gnats
Izz
Lonely Robot
Panzerballett
The Psychedelic Ensemble
Sanguine Hum
Thank You Scientist
Thieves' Kitchen
Nova Collective
Bubblemath
Covet
Intervals
Them Moose Rush
Allan Holdsworth
The Dregs
The Bears
Jellyfish
Dewa Budjana
Antoine Fafard
Virgil Donati
Discipline
Anti-Depressive Delivery
Hiromi
Marco Minnemann
Simon Phillips Protocol



Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:52
I guess i'll also mention Kansas. Like I know they're popular in prog circles and sold tons of albums, but I honestly hold them to the same level as many of the all time greats like Yes, King Crimson, Genesis.... They don't fit the sophisticated english symphonic prog mould as they're just a bunch of dudes from bumf**k nowhere, but man their first 5 albums are just absolute top shelf symphonic prog in my book and even the less proggy songs sparsely scattered throughout still go really hard.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 13:58
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

as they're just a bunch of dudes from bumf**k nowhere
Hey now. Topeka is only an hour drive from where I am.


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:03
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

as they're just a bunch of dudes from bumf**k nowhere
Hey now. Topeka is only an hour drive from where I am.

Ah, you're from bumf**k west? LOL


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:04
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

as they're just a bunch of dudes from bumf**k nowhere
Hey now. Topeka is only an hour drive from where I am.


Ah, you're from bumf**k west? LOL

East side


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:09
Grumpy already mentioned 3 I think should be better known....
XTC....one of the greatest clever pop rock bands ever imho.
Jellyfish....another brilliant pop rock band.
Sanguine Hum....who of course started as Antique Seeking Nuns....again very creative clever music.


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:14
Here are a few I think should at least be a bit more popular in prog circles:

5uu's, Airlord, Apogee, Blue Effect, Emmanuel Booz (especially for the Dans quel etat j'erre album), Alex Carpani Band, Carpe Nota, Cell15, Conqueror, Eccentric Orbit, ExCubus, Galleon, Gerard, Le Grand Sbam, Greenslade, Grobschnitt, Hamadryad, High Wheel, Horse Lords, The Hosemobile, Karakorum, Karcius, Kharmina Buranna, KingBathmat, Land of Chocolate, Little Atlas, Mangrove, The Mercury Tree, Mezquita, Mikromidas, Monarch Trail, Moon Letters, Morse Code, Mosaico, Nau Aletheia, Nexus (the Argentinian band), ni., Nil, Novalis, NoVox, Oblivion Sun, Othello Syndrome, Paatos, Pancake, Matthew Parmenter's solo stuff, Pentwater, Emme Phyzema, PoiL, Puppet Show, Qoph, Quantum Fantay, Rainbow Theatre, Ring Van Möbius, Scherzoo, Schnellertollermeier, Sebastian Hardie, Sezione Frenante, Simon Says, Social Tension, Solaris, Spaced Out, Spleen Arcana, Stratus Luna, Tale Cue, Talisma, Thinking Plague, Time Shift Accident, Trilogy, Triumvirat, Underground Railroad, Versus X, Voyag3r, Dan Weiss, White Willow, Wyxz, WytchCrypt, Zenit, Zombi, Zomby Woof

I know. Instead of listing all these bands, I should just write reviews that should at least convince somebody to listen to them. Why can't days be 48 hours instead of 24??


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:19
^Uh..there must be 75 bands there..they just popped in to your head...?
LOL


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:32
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Uh..there must be 75 bands there..they just popped in to your head...?
LOL

LOL There's not a whole lot of popping going on in my head (more like pooping). I dragged the laptop over to the CD shelves and just went through them alphabetically. Probably missed a couple dozen.


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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag
that's a happy bag of lettuce
this car smells like cartilage
nothing beats a good video about fractions


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:45
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Spock's Beard
Riverside
Bent Knee
Sound Of Contact
OSI
IQ
Ana_thema



Excellent list

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:47
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Most of the bands I listen to. Here's a few.

Mike Keneally
The Aristocrats
Big Big Train
Echolyn
Freak Kitchen
Frost*
Helmet of Gnats
Izz
Lonely Robot
Panzerballett
The Psychedelic Ensemble
Sanguine Hum
Thank You Scientist
Thieves' Kitchen
Nova Collective
Bubblemath
Covet
Intervals
Them Moose Rush
Allan Holdsworth
The Dregs
The Bears
Jellyfish
Dewa Budjana
Antoine Fafard
Virgil Donati
Discipline
Anti-Depressive Delivery
Hiromi
Marco Minnemann
Simon Phillips Protocol





Impressive list excellent choices too!

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 14:54
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Uh..there must be 75 bands there..they just popped in to your head...?
LOL


More impressively, they popped in his head in alphabetical order.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 15:05
Procol Harum by faaar

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 15:38
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Uh..there must be 75 bands there..they just popped in to your head...?
LOL


LOL There's not a whole lot of popping going on in my head (more like pooping). I dragged the laptop over to the CD shelves and just went through them alphabetically. Probably missed a couple dozen.
Me too. Only ones I know from your list, ni and Poil and a few others. Thanks for the recommendations.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 16:00
Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Spock's Beard
Riverside
Bent Knee
Sound Of Contact
OSI
IQ
Ana_thema



Excellent list

Also add the brilliant The Flower Kings......


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 17:02
Dread Zeppelin deserves a Whole Lotta Love, but maybe their Time is Gonna Come...



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 03:14
King's X
Sieges Even
Veni Domine
Poverty's No Crime
Fates Warning
Savatage
Ivanhoe
Freak Kitchen
The Gathering
The Fixx
UFO
Nick Drake

and many others... 



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 04:01
XTC
Talk Talk
Nick Drake

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 05:36
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

King's X
Sieges Even
Veni Domine
Poverty's No Crime
Fates Warning
Savatage
Ivanhoe
Freak Kitchen
The Gathering
The Fixx
UFO
Nick Drake

and many others... 

Nice to see another vote for Freak Kitchen! One of my favorites.


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 07:37
Aquarium Rescue Unit. 
Not a prog band but they do have some jazz fusion elements in their music. 
Kind of a mix between SRV, Eric Johnson & The Dixie Dregs.
I think they only did two albums but very cool stuff.


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 07:45

Magma

Saw them twice in NYC and once in Pennsylvania.  All 3 times they played in a small venue.  They should be selling out stadiums not clubs.




Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 08:03
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Magma

Saw them twice in NYC and once in Pennsylvania.  All 3 times they played in a small venue.  They should be selling out stadiums not clubs.



yeah, but we're not living in a world that appreciates experimental music like Magma does. At least most progheads(and I imagine people that are into jazz)  and even some rockers/metalheads appreciate their music. 


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 09:27
Some good names being put forward. I'll add.....

Advent
Greenslade
Fruupp
Big Big Train

Nice to see Discipline get a mention!



Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 10:13
I don't get how the group FM didn't become huge just based on their song "Phasors on Stun" but shows what I know I guess


Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 11:08
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I don't get how the group FM didn't become huge just based on their song "Phasors on Stun" but shows what I know I guess

"Phasors on Stun", while catchy, broke a significant rule of popular acceptance: the song title does not appear in the lyrics!

Agreed that FM should have been much more popular than they were, especially when they opened for Rush a number of times. I still listen to their 1977-80 albums and Ben Mink's Foreign Exchange (an FM album in all but name) after all these years!


Posted By: Artik
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 11:38
In prog circles: 
Moving Gelatine Plates - french mavericks with bags full of freak/prog tricks 
Yezda Urfa - probably the best (and the most) prog band from USA
Syrius "Devil's masquerade"  - amazing hungarian response to King Crimson and Colosseum
The United Jazz + Rock Ensemble - with Jon Hiseman and Ian Carr onboard they should be more visible 
Michael Hoenig - for his "Departure from the Northern Wasteland" he should be on top along with Tangerine Dream

In general:
Caravan, Camel, Renaissance - all are full of gentle, beautiful melodies and should easily attract bigger crowds


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 14:25
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I don't get how the group FM didn't become huge just based on their song "Phasors on Stun" but shows what I know I guess

"Phasors on Stun", while catchy, broke a significant rule of popular acceptance: the song title does not appear in the lyrics!  BUT the sound of the phasor appears instead

Agreed that FM should have been much more popular than they were, especially when they opened for Rush a number of times. I still listen to their 1977-80 albums and Ben Mink's Foreign Exchange (an FM album in all but name) after all these years!

My fave song by them is probably "Krakow" - who cares if it has the same beat all the way through...I can feel the chill when I listen to it even when wrapped in blankets.

Have you heard their 2014 album, "Transformation"?  It's really good but, perhaps because it uses acoustic violins., seems somewhat folkier than their others stuff


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 14:27
Originally posted by Artik Artik wrote:

In prog circles: 
Moving Gelatine Plates - french mavericks with bags full of freak/prog tricks 
Yezda Urfa - probably the best (and the most) prog band from USA
Syrius "Devil's masquerade"  - amazing hungarian response to King Crimson and Colosseum
The United Jazz + Rock Ensemble - with Jon Hiseman and Ian Carr onboard they should be more visible 
Michael Hoenig - for his "Departure from the Northern Wasteland" he should be on top along with Tangerine Dream

In general:
Caravan, Camel, Renaissance - all are full of gentle, beautiful melodies and should easily attract bigger crowds

we had a good discussion about this on the Renaissance appreciation thread.  The discussion revolved around that they are somewhat catchy at times but mostly they make you work for your reward.  I loaned a mix CD to friends who didn't know them but like prog, to see if they would join me for a concert.  They said they liked it but not enough to buy the ticket!


Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 15:33
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I don't get how the group FM didn't become huge just based on their song "Phasors on Stun" but shows what I know I guess

"Phasors on Stun", while catchy, broke a significant rule of popular acceptance: the song title does not appear in the lyrics!  BUT the sound of the phasor appears instead

Agreed that FM should have been much more popular than they were, especially when they opened for Rush a number of times. I still listen to their 1977-80 albums and Ben Mink's Foreign Exchange (an FM album in all but name) after all these years!

My fave song by them is probably "Krakow" - who cares if it has the same beat all the way through...I can feel the chill when I listen to it even when wrapped in blankets.

Have you heard their 2014 album, "Transformation"?  It's really good but, perhaps because it uses acoustic violins., seems somewhat folkier than their others stuff

My favorite FM songs are "One O'Clock Tomorrow", "Orion/Horizons", and "Surface to Air".

I did buy the Transformation album, and while there are a few good songs, I was mostly disappointed by it. The playing/instrumentation is good, Cameron's vocals are good, but the lyrics were all over the place. Considering that the original incarnation(s) of the band were far from successful, many of the new lyrics had a smug/self-congratulatory tone that rubbed me the wrong way. One of my least-favorite "classic" FM songs was "Destruction", and much (but not all) of Transformation reminded me of this.    



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