1978: National Health / And Then There Were Three
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Topic: 1978: National Health / And Then There Were Three
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 1978: National Health / And Then There Were Three
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 21:25
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This should have been the genesis of the dual 1978 duo poll duels. Another apples and oranges one with National Health having a higher average rating but the Genesis album having about three and a half as many times the ratings of NH. I have and like both albums, although I do prefer National Health. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 21:45
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Another easy one. Health. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 23:11
Genesis, because it'll get slaughtered here... 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 23:15
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This is one Genesis album that I’ve defended more than once — and that’s just with Ivan. I think it has some very good songs. Oh, by the way, In case anyone checking out this poll is not familiar with both, here is a favourite of mine from each: Those have both been favourite tracks of mine at different times. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 23:36
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National Health. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 00:49
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Oof, this is making me feel bad because ATTW3 is an album with a definite place in my heart and which I think gets unjustly dismissed a lot, but... it can't beat the Health. ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 01:46
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Genesis by far. More in tune with my tastes. The NH album is ok, but overall too jazzy for my ears. I rarely listen to it. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 01:58
| Bought those much anticipated albums on release - and saw both bands that year!! Time has been kindest to NH - the long fade out to the album is the stuff of dreams...(poor little Nemo) |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:07
| Genesis |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 04:44
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National Health absolutely, classy album. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 04:47
| And Then There Were Two in this poll and my vote goes to the NHS this time around. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 05:28
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National Health's is a masterpiece, Genesis' isn't. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 05:46
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Nat Health gets the nod. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 06:21
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Indeed. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 07:39
| NH easily |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 10:17
| Genesis --it has some great songs and is missing one thing--Hackett--to add the fairy dust he adds---even Banks admits it would have been better with Steve on it. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 10:25
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Gonna have to relisten to National Health. I really like both these records, i've always been a big defender of ATTWT. If it was squared against Of Queues and Cures it would go to National Health. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 11:47
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"Down and Out" and "Deep in the Motherlode" are fantastic. Genesis. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 12:06
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A healthy National Health over the so-so 'Three. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 14:32
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Like both of these albums, but NH is the better of the two. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 14:39
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Not gonna choose. I probably enjoy the Genesis more frequently than the Health (actually, roughly half the songs are fantastic- the other half I can do without), but to vote against the Health in favor of a “pretty good” Genesis album doesn’t seem right to me. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 16:00
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National Health vs Genesis 21-9 - something's strange in this forum today (also over in the other thread Yes gets a beating)... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 16:24
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Nat Health.......and those who voted for Genesis will not get a Christmas card this year. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 06:12
Had the thread happened in 1978, it is likely it would be the other way around - and more. I bought both albums on release. To put it into context, National Health had to wait over two years to get an album released. Virgin wouldn't touch them. National Health would not have been able to fill a 1,000 capacity venue - the same year Genesis played to 100,000 at Knebworth. I saw both bands that year - the mass gathering at Knebworth and National Health supporting Steve Hillage (I was in a minority in the crowd into NH).
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Lewian wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 06:19
nothing surprising or strange in this poll IMO
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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 06:53
Makes sense to me too. Genesis, average album rather short of ideas and compromising more complex content for commercialisation. National Health, interesting, challenging and refreshing.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 07:06
I've always loved Genesis' ATTW3 and voted for them here, despite NH's album being the superior one here.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 00:41
| National Health easily, although I'm surprised it's leading. Genesis being Genesis, they always get more attention with their albums, but with this one, ATTWT, it just doesn't happen to be very good in my humble opinion. |
Posted By: Dark Ness
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 02:32
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Not able to vote but I'd like to express my love for this Genesis' great piece of work (their last, in my opinion) Frequently go back to relisten with much pleasure - the energy it pumps right from the beginning up to the last track always percolates my soul and body
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 11:15
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NH for me as well And Then There Were 3 doesn't do much for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 08:49
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I'm a big Genesis fan, but National Health is a much better album than ATTW3 ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 19:50
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NH easily. There’s no pandering to the changes in music the late-70’s brought on. And Dave Stewart. Every solo is a treat. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 30 2021 at 02:35
hey Tom! welcome back, good to see you!
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 30 2021 at 02:39
| ^ Thanks ! Life gets in the way....... |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 30 2021 at 17:44
| National Health! |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 04:16
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So 'and then there were three' reached no. 3 in the UK and no. 14 in the US in 78 while NH's debut got nowhere. Where was everybody in 1978? Yep, listening to Genesis rather than National Health (except me of course)
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 08:19
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National Health. Prog isn't about popularity of the time of release or how many releases were sold. It's about what stands the test of time. ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 08:36
------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 09:26
Indeed - I was just noting the paradox. National Health struggled for two years to get a record deal - later the same year Dave Stewart gave up on NH due to the financial situation whereas Genesis decided to take the year off. If the voting ratio here was converted to contemporaneous album sales one wonders if National Health would eventually end their concerts with a medley of cover versions (including 'It's My Party')?
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 26 2022 at 01:49
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National Health - National Health ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |