Perfect Prog Band
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Topic: Perfect Prog Band
Posted By: 5 minute solo
Subject: Perfect Prog Band
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 15:50
Who would you have in your ultimate prog band, who would you have playing what? this may be another half brained topic but hopefully this one could work
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 17:32
Ok, but remember supergroups almost never work:
Vocals...Peter Gabriel & Annie Haslam: Peter is great with the low ranges and as frontman. Annie would do a great job with the high ranges in which Peter is weak and she incredible.
Bass...John Myung (Dream Theater): Amazing player, very complex style.
Chapman Stick...Tony Levin: Great duo with Myung.
Guitars....Steve Hackett and Steve Howe: Hoping they would do it better than in GTR.
Keyboards...Par Lynd: Incredible keyboardist, even though Wakeman and Emerson are also great, they have too much ego to be part of supergroup, will end killing someone. And Tony Banks is a great band player, but his recent curriculum with Genesis disqualifies him.
Drums...Manu Katche: One of the best and he's in his peak right now, if he never cared being a session musician for Peter Gabriel, I believe he would be perfectly comfortable being part of a band with Peter in vocals.
Flute...Anna Holmgren (Anglagard): Great style and versatility
Violin and Backing Vocals...Robbie Steindhart (Kansas): Ideal for any prog' band and has also a great voice.
Iván
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 17:34
Keith Emerson -Keyboards
Greg Lake - Vocals and Bass Guitar
Carl Palmer - Drums
But then without a lead guitarist it would never work
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 17:56
I remember such a thread...but Nevertheless here's my list:
Vocals: Daniel Gildenlöw/Peter Hammill
Keyboards: Jordan Rudess
Bass: Jonas Reingold/Levin for the Stick
Guitar: Robert Fripp/Gilmour/Petrucci
Melotron: Nicklas Berg/Thomas Johnson
Flute and several other wind instruemnts: Richard Harvey (Gryphon)/Anna Holmgren
Saxophone: David Jackson
Drums: Portnoy, Bozzio or Zoltan Csorsz, if noone of these has time, I nominate Bruford
Percussions: Hasse Bruniusson
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 21:23
richardh wrote:
Keith Emerson -Keyboards
Greg Lake - Vocals and Bass Guitar
Carl Palmer - Drums
But then without a lead guitarist it would never work
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That would be my ultiimate prog band also, Richard!!!!
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Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 21:40
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
Keyboards: Pär Lindh / Mark Kelly / Pete Bardens
Lead guitar: David Gilmour / Aldo Tagliapietra / Tim Renwick
Bass Guitar: Roger Waters / Louis Roy
Drums: Cozy Powell / Mattias Olsson / Jonas Lidholm
Percussions: Peter Nordis / Ferenc Szabó
Saxophone: Dick Parry / David Jackson
Flute: Stephen Geysens / Lisa de Renzio / Jacek Zasada
Cello: Emila Derkowska / Péter Pejtsik
Acoustic Guitar: Jonas Engdegard
Mellotron: Anna Sofi Dahlberg / Tomas Jonson / Halvard Haugerud
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Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: July 24 2004 at 22:11
landberkdoten wrote:
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
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I guess I'll disappoint you, but if you listen to Atempo's album and Mariela González voice, you'll change the female singer. Think about Magdalena Hagberg for your supergroup
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Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 01:15
Marcelo wrote:
I guess I'll disappoint you, but if you listen to Atempo's album and Mariela González voice, you'll change the female singer. Think about Magdalena Hagberg for your supergroup
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Gracias por tu preocupación Marcelo! También me considero un asiduo fan de PLP y la operática voz de Magdalena, pero en esta ocasión me quedaré con lo que mis oídos captaron de Mariela en "Detrás del Umbral" y "Metanoia"... y tienes razón, "Abismos del tiempo" es un concepto diferente, (con fusiones de funk, céltico y poco progresivo sinfónico) y en ese mismo contexto, la voz de la hermosa argentina tuvo que amoldarse a la instrumentación, pero aun así no deja de ser fantástica, no te parece?
Saludos,
Land
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 05:27
landberkdoten wrote:
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
Keyboards: Pär Lindh / Mark Kelly / Pete Bardens
Lead guitar: David Gilmour / Aldo Tagliapietra / Tim Renwick
Bass Guitar: Roger Waters / Louis Roy
Drums: Cozy Powell / Mattias Olsson / Jonas Lidholm
Percussions: Peter Nordis / Ferenc Szabó
Saxophone: Dick Parry / David Jackson
Flute: Stephen Geysens / Lisa de Renzio / Jacek Zasada
Cello: Emila Derkowska / Péter Pejtsik
Acoustic Guitar: Jonas Engdegard
Mellotron: Anna Sofi Dahlberg / Tomas Jonson / Halvard Haugerud
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Is that a band or an orchestra?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 05:51
My non-ELP supergroup:
Zoltan Csorsz - Drums
Geddy Lee - Bass and vocals
Jordan Rudess - Keyboards
Matthew Bellamy - Vocals,guitars and keyboards
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 11:50
richardh wrote:
My non-ELP supergroup:
Zoltan Csorsz - Drums
Geddy Lee - Bass and vocals
Jordan Rudess - Keyboards
Matthew Bellamy - Vocals,guitars and keyboards
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My non-ELP supergroup:
David Gilmour - vocals, guitars
Greg Lake - vocals, bass
Richard Wright - keyboards
Nick Mason - percussion
Who needs Roger Waters...
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Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 12:44
it might have existed: Fripp & Sylvian with Trey Gunn on bass and Pat Mastelotto on drums in live version (Damage).
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Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 14:32
richardh wrote:
landberkdoten wrote:
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
Keyboards: Pär Lindh / Mark Kelly / Pete Bardens
Lead guitar: David Gilmour / Aldo Tagliapietra / Tim Renwick
Bass Guitar: Roger Waters / Louis Roy
Drums: Cozy Powell / Mattias Olsson / Jonas Lidholm
Percussions: Peter Nordis / Ferenc Szabó
Saxophone: Dick Parry / David Jackson
Flute: Stephen Geysens / Lisa de Renzio / Jacek Zasada
Cello: Emila Derkowska / Péter Pejtsik
Acoustic Guitar: Jonas Engdegard
Mellotron: Anna Sofi Dahlberg / Tomas Jonson / Halvard Haugerud
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Is that a band or an orchestra?
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You never know if all of them can make it to the show, so it's preferable to have some spares, huh?
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reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
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Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 16:14
landberkdoten wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
I guess I'll disappoint you, but if you listen to Atempo's album and Mariela González voice, you'll change the female singer. Think about Magdalena Hagberg for your supergroup
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Gracias por tu preocupación Marcelo! También me considero un asiduo fan de PLP y la operática voz de Magdalena, pero en esta ocasión me quedaré con lo que mis oídos captaron de Mariela en "Detrás del Umbral" y "Metanoia"... y tienes razón, "Abismos del tiempo" es un concepto diferente, (con fusiones de funk, céltico y poco progresivo sinfónico) y en ese mismo contexto, la voz de la hermosa argentina tuvo que amoldarse a la instrumentación, pero aun así no deja de ser fantástica, no te parece?
Saludos,
Land
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Si tenés el disco de Atempo a mano, escuchá con atención algunas vocalizaciones y verás que Mariela desafina bastante. Cuando cantaba en Nexus pasaba lo mismo, pero las partes vocales eran corregidas a través de un proceso electrónico (lo sé a través de la mejor fuente), cosa que con Atempo no se hizo. Igual, ella suena bien y se ve mejor .
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Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 16:34
Marcelo wrote:
Si tenés el disco de Atempo a mano, escuchá con atención algunas vocalizaciones y verás que Mariela desafina bastante. Cuando cantaba en Nexus pasaba lo mismo, pero las partes vocales eran corregidas a través de un proceso electrónico (lo sé a través de la mejor fuente), cosa que con Atempo no se hizo. Igual, ella suena bien y se ve mejor .
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Caray! No sabía o había escuchado esa leyenda acerca de los arreglos electrónicos hechos a la voz de Mariela... y aunque confío plenamente en tus palabras (porque cierto es que desentona un poco más en Atempo), existe todavía la duda en mi porque recuerdo haberla escuchado cantar clara y armoniosamente cuando Nexus hizo una pequeña aparición en "La Corte Final" (prog-restaurante en el corazón de la Ciudad de México)... a menos que ahí también se haya presentado esta anomalía del arreglo de su voz y nos deje solamente una hermosa imagen del exterior...
Saludos!
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reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:13
I'd say Gentle Giant.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 06:02
JrKASperov wrote:
I'd say Gentle Giant. |
Yep, what more would could you ask for?
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Posted By: Orfeo
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 08:30
Vocals: Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush
Flute: Jan Anderson
Bass: John Patitucci
Stick: Tony Levin
Guitars: Steve Hackett
Guitar - Fingerpicking parts: Steve Howe
Lead Guitars: Pat Metheny
Impossible guitar parts: Steve Vai
Keyboards: Flavio Premoli
Lead Keyboards: Keith Emerson
Drums: Phil Collins (don't move from you seat please!! ) & Gary Novak
Percussion: Nana Vasconcelos
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 08:54
Foxy wrote:
it might have existed: Fripp & Sylvian with Trey Gunn on bass and Pat Mastelotto on drums in live version (Damage).
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 12:47
ivan_2068 wrote:
Ok, but remember supergroups almost never work:
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They do occasionally - the first UK album for instance.
However, I largely support of your case. I once asked Allan Holdsworth for a radio interview, whether he would consider working with Metheny or MclLaughlin, and got the terse reply: such musicians will either inhibit each other, because they don't want to show each other up OR they are trying to outdo each other and something gets lost. The best example in my mind of this is Holdsworth playing with Joe Satriani on the title track of Stu Hamm's Radio Free Albumuth - they neutralised each other, and so made the worse record of either guitarists' career (IMHO). I think Truth In Shredding with Holdsworth with Gambale illustrated this too - as did the Metheny/Scofield and Abercrombie/Scofield album projects. However, some bass duos work - check out Rob Wasserman's Trios - perhaps bass players know how to both play lead and backing rhythm?
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 13:09
Dick Heath wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
Ok, but remember supergroups almost never work: | They do occasionally - the first UK album for instance.
The best example in my mind of this is Holdsworth playing with Joe Satriani on the title track of Stu Hamm's Radio Free Albumuth - they neutralised each other, and so made the worse record of either guitarists' career (IMHO). I think Truth In Shredding with Holdsworth with Gambale illustrated this too - as did the Metheny/Scofield and Abercrombie/Scofield album projects. |
The biggest problem with MVP was Allan and Frank never actually played together in the same room. Gambale completed the whole project with holes for Allan to fill. Too sterile. True improvisation needs a live setting.
The same goes for the Stu Hamm project. If Satch and Holdsy played together in the same room, we may have heard something completely different. Of course, I thought the tune itself was meagor.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 00:34
Dick Heath wrote:
They do occasionally - the first UK album for instance. |
That's why I said almost, UK is a great example of that, but even if people believe I'm crazy, I like "Danger Money"more than UK's self titled album.
Iván
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Posted By: El Hefe
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 23:26
Vocals and guitar: Daniel Ginldenlöw
Guitars and backing vocals: John Petrucci or/and Serge Fiori
Drummer: Mike Portnoy or Virgil Donati
Bass: Viktor Lemonte Wooten
Keybords: Kevin Moore
Additionals vocals and djembe: Brandon Boyd
Stick: Tony Levin
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 00:08
Here I shall compose the ugliest supergroup ever.
Bass/Vocals: Roger Waters Guitar: Steve Howe Keyboards: Rick Wakeman (he hasn't exactly aged gracefully) Drums: Christian Vander
They could use Roger Waters' idea from The Wall tours of building a big brick wall in front of the stage to block the performers. That would probably be the only way anyone could survive sitting through their live show.
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Posted By: Minstrel X
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 10:47
VOCALS: Peter Gabriel/Ian Anderson
GUITARS: Steve Hackett & Mikael Åkerfeldt
BASS: Chris Squire
DRUMS: Christian Vander
KEYBOARDS: Clive Nolan
FLUTE: Anna Holmgren
MELLOTRON: Lars Fredrik Frøislie
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 21:20
Useful_Idiot wrote:
Here I shall compose the ugliest supergroup ever.
Bass/Vocals: Roger Waters Guitar: Steve Howe Keyboards: Rick Wakeman (he hasn't exactly aged gracefully) Drums: Christian Vander
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Hey have you seen Roger Waters lately. He looks a whole lot better.. the older he's gotten. These days he's looking rather suave...
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 29 2004 at 02:56
threefates wrote:
Useful_Idiot wrote:
Here I shall compose the ugliest supergroup ever.
Bass/Vocals: Roger Waters Guitar: Steve Howe Keyboards: Rick Wakeman (he hasn't exactly aged gracefully) Drums: Christian Vander
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Hey have you seen Roger Waters lately. He looks a whole lot better.. the older he's gotten. These days he's looking rather suave...
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Richard Gere's long forgotten half brother?
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 29 2004 at 03:36
Richard Gere's long forgotten half brother? |
I was about to say that
Again we agree.
Iván
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 29 2004 at 04:41
More like Sylvester Stallone's long lost father!
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: July 29 2004 at 04:58
Or sister.
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Posted By: Syn Caos
Date Posted: July 31 2004 at 00:38
richardh wrote:
Keith Emerson -Keyboards
Greg Lake - Vocals and Bass Guitar
Carl Palmer - Drums
But then without a lead guitarist it would never work
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I heard Jimmi Hendrix was going to join the band, but unfortunally he died. The band would be called HELP (Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer) instead of ELP.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 31 2004 at 01:01
Yeh, that was the rumor... but actually they only spoke to Mitch Mitchellr regarding the open drummer position... but decided on Carl Palmer instead... lucky them!!
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 31 2004 at 22:20
Hello, I'm new, blah blah blah....
Ultimate supergroup, eh?
Vocals: Annie Haslam. Just Annie Haslam, thank you very much.
Guitar: Martin Barre. He's a good all-rounder - not too virtuso-y, but capable of a smashing solo!
Keys: Kerry Minnear. Never an unnecessary note. (And he could play vibes/xylophone!)
Bass/vocals: Chris Squire. Obviously.
Sax/flute: Didier Malherbe.
Drums: Bill Bruford.
Percussion/things: Hasse Bruinisson.
I'd also expect some session players for the odd bit of cello, mandolin, accordian etc.
How's that for a balanced line-up then?
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: August 01 2004 at 06:13
threefates wrote:
Yeh, that was the rumor... but actually they only spoke to Mitch Mitchellr regarding the open drummer position... but decided on Carl Palmer instead... lucky them!! |
Arthur Brown (as in The Crazy World of) seems to think he got screwed in that process...
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: August 01 2004 at 11:23
James Lee wrote:
Arthur Brown (as in The Crazy World of) seems to think he got screwed in that process...
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Why??... Carl had already left Arthur Brown with Vincent Crane and formed Atomic Rooster. AR already had out an album... if anyone, Vincent Crane was the one who got screwed...
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Posted By: artbass
Date Posted: August 02 2004 at 16:12
Peter Gabriel - Vocals, Flute, Oboe, Show
Steve Hackett - Guitar, Vocals
Lupo (Grobschnitt) - Guitar, Vocals
Jonas Reingold - Bass
Eroc (Grobschnitt) - Drums
I don't know who to put behind the keyboards, perhaps Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman? There are too many good keyboarders out there...
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