A Dream Theater Message: Two songs from two Dreams
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Topic: A Dream Theater Message: Two songs from two Dreams
Posted By: Logan
Subject: A Dream Theater Message: Two songs from two Dreams
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 07:50
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Two rockin' songs from two Dream albums. One a fairly obscure oldie and one from a juggernaut in the Prog metal sphere. This is not intended as a contest. Message - From Books and Dreams - "Dreams And Nightmares (Dreams)" Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite - "Afterlife" From their respective albums, I felt that these paired up reasonably well. A bit of an odd poll perhaps. I am much more into the Message. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 08:09
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My vote goes to Message, amazing album and this is my fav song on that album. Tommy Mcguin´s voice slightly reminds me of Peter Gabriel and his work on this album playing sax and mellotrons its fabulous
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 08:16
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^ I first heard it on youtube, that being the first I heard from the album. "Dreams" blew me away. I love the heavy riffage, and the sax is super. Great song per my tastes. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 08:39
| the song from Dream Theater's underrated debut album |
Posted By: Duddick
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 13:45
| I’ll pass. I really don’t like prog metal or metal in the slightest |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 13:56
Which shows you just didn't care to listen: Message is not prog metal at all. My vote goes to Message, not just because it is not prog metal, but because it is musically much more interesting than the Dream Theater track (and personally, I think that that DT album is rather overrated, but, personally, I also think that notions as "underrated" or "overrated" should be banned from PA and everyone who uses it excluded for at least six months...).
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Duddick wrote:Posted By: Duddick
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 14:06
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apologies. I misread. The Message track is excellent. It’s just when people mention prog metal my attention wanes! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 14:12
DT's debut album is anything but overrated, in fact, if you ask me, it's often overlooked, deserves better. There are other DT albums I find overrated, even overhyped.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 14:18
I use these terms either to vex people, or when I am condescending. It works! You get annoyed!  But honestly, I'm not an egocentric person. I never think or claim that my assessments are superior to others.  I don't remember hearing the non-DT song. I'll check it out soon and present my take, together with my vote. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 14:21
I understand, because prog metal is not what I prefer either. But I must say that of the prog metal bands I find some of the earlier Dream Theater albums really splendid. Images and Words is OK, but in my opinion not that great as some want to make believe... but that's just my subjective appreciation. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 14:27
Sure, and in some way, especially from a (metally) historical point of view, I think you're absolutely right. But musically, I think DT did much better on their subsequent albums... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 14:29
Yes, the other two albums with Moore are better.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 15:16
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My favourite track off DT's debut is "The Ytse Jam" and I think that became a real classic of DT (had it not fit for me so well in this well with Dreams, then I likely would have included that one) The Ytse Jam does remind of Spinal Tap's Rock 'n Roll Creation in part, but that's not a bad thing as I love Spinal Tap. As for Message here, I'd call it heavy psych/ Krautrock. The band is included in Psych/Space at PA. it isn't Prog Metal, but there are classic early 70s heavy metal qualities to "Dreams". I love its groove. I'd liken elements of it it to the acts like Black Widow, Lucifer's Friend, Atomic Rooster, Bram Stoker, Black Sabbath, Writing on the Wall, Yesterday's Children, Coven as well as some Flower Travelin' Band, Sir Lord Baltimore, Nektar.... That and Nightmares off the same album (the two long tracks) I find brilliant. "Dream" is riff-based music to groove to for me. Psych is a really important element to me often in music, and I would like to discover more psych metal type music. With an name like Dream Theater, I had expected it at first to have more of a cosmic, psychedelic, dreamy sound (to be a little more Tangerine Dream one might say) since I first checked it out without knowing much about the music. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 15:23
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I dig Dreams . . . ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 15:24
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Not DT ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 23 2021 at 00:18
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Erotomania > > > ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 23 2021 at 02:43
agree 100%
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: September 24 2021 at 09:01
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Gonna vote for Message. A very good song capturing the 70s' spirit. Dream Theater's song is not bad either, but the sound is not refined enough. Some music can tolerate and even cherish this, but one seeks "perfection" and refinement in Dream Theater's music. At least I do so. That's why I like Awake of them far better than I&W. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 24 2021 at 19:48
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Message for sure and what a bad ass album cover. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 26 2021 at 14:09
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I'm not familiar with Message but I'll definitely look into them. Great song AND cover art. (Interestingly, some reviews outside this site say the first Message album was "a lot less mainstream," which is why this one disappointed.) I like "Afterlife" a lot, too, since it's on my favorite Dream Theater album. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: September 26 2022 at 23:34
Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite - "Afterlife" ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |