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Topic: Very Important Long Players (VILP) 1969
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Subject: Very Important Long Players (VILP) 1969
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 14:18
These were the 25 most historically important "progressive rock & related" albums of 1969 titles I could come up with - or think of... that I like. There's tons more stuff (many debuts) I love from this year, such as: The Advancement, Xhol Caravan, Audience, Renaissance, Music Emporium, Yes, VdGG + etc... but to me the ones I selected felt like they contributed to expand popular music and rock in general. To some extent. But I mainly just want to know what you like out of what you've heard, and that you'll check out the stuff you don't know (but if I'm being totally honest, I'm mainly procrastinating).

-There was no extra space left for "other", so you will have to write what other album you would vote for in the comment section:). I'm certain I forgot of left out something essential.





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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 14:46
It's always an uphill push when King Crimson's debut is on the list, but for this group, although I know less than half of them, I'll go with Santana's scene crasher.


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 14:52
Volume 2 

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 14:54
Led Zeppelin II.....the guitar intro, then John Paul Jones thick bass line right underneath Page, then Bonham comes in with the powerful drum intro.

Whole Lotta Love, 5:34 minutes of greatness. Still to this day gives my speakers a workout.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 14:57
Who can beat the great Soft Machine, Can, Amon Duul II, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, Beatles, Mothers of Invention, Miles, and Captain Beefheart? East of Eden can... seriously! Such a charming album!


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 15:06
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

But I mainly just want to know what you like out of what you've heard, and that you'll check out the stuff you don't know.
Ha ha. From experience in my own polls, I don't think most forums members will check out stuff they don't know. 

I like Soft Machine, Ayers, Zeppelin, Tull, Zappa, and The Beatles. Vote for Tull.

In a Silent Way is awful for me. Dave Holland playing basically one note on bass through both songs, ick. Yeah, one of the first jazz recordings featuring electronic piano. Historically important? Meh.




Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 15:08
Colosseum - Valentyne Suite


Posted By: ProfPanglos
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 15:18
Had to go with Abbey Road.  Some great selections on that list, but it was an easy choice for me.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 15:20
I'm very familiar with all of these albums other than the Manfred Mann and The Moody Blues.  I'm a bigger fan of the first half of the list than the second half. Really tough choice, especially between the first twelve. I will vote for the one I most want to put on right at this moment, which is Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air.

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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 15:22
Uncle Meat is one of the most breathtaking things ever recorded and no other album on the list rivals it in my eyes. Nonetheless, Volume 2, A Rainbow In Curved Air and of course ol' Crimmy King's Court are still great milestones in their own right. Pink Floyd's Ummagumma and Tony Williams's Emergency wouldn't be out of place on this list either.


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 16:31
Stand Up is my favorite of these.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 16:54
Hard to choose; there are some excellent albums here. I will go with "Sea Shanties"; it is definitely the heaviest album of this time and in my opinion one of the heaviest albums ever.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 18:51
One of the more difficult polls I've seen in a while. I can narrow it down to 8 but it's so hard because there's not one standing out above the others. I be back!

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 19:42
I bet Court will garner the most votes.

Me, I'll vote for Santana's debut. There was nothing else like it at the time.


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 22:04
Stand Up all the way. My first prog album I ever owned, so it has a special place in my heart.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 22:49
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm very familiar with all of these albums other than the Manfred Mann and The Moody Blues.  I'm a bigger fan of the first half of the list than the second half. Really tough choice, especially between the first twelve. I will vote for the one I most want to put on right at this moment, which is Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air.
Both Manfred Mann Chapter Three albums are really interesting, loose, fuzzy psych/jazzrock that has very little - or practically nothing in common with both former or latter Manfred Mann-incarnations. The occasional vocals won't impress anyone, but I find weakish whispers easier to digest and accept than nasal germans and rockopera-italians. Here's an instrumental from their (jazzier, and perhaps slightly more to my taste) 1970-follow up, Volume Two:

-On the Threshold of a Dream is the closest Moody Blues ever came to making kosmische:D - Still mostly cozy, warm and very melodic, but with some genuine soundexcursions into space. I love it - including the spoken word parts that others might find cringeworthy.


Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 23:16
There are three kinds of albums on this list for me:

those I don't know (about half or a little more)
those I know and like/love a lot (almost all the rest)
Abbey Road

That is to say, Abbey Road means more to me than almost all of the rest of these records combined, sans LZII and maybe ITCOTCK, which I have a lot to thank for. This is a no brainer poll for me with its inclusion, as there's simply nothing else here that even comes close. 


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 23:25
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

In a Silent Way is awful for me. Dave Holland playing basically one note on bass through both songs, ick. Yeah, one of the first jazz recordings featuring electronic piano. Historically important? Meh
Well, at least you found yourself the perfect username:) You don't have to like it, but whether it's historically important or not isn't really up for debate. Miles beat himself several times featuring el-piano on his own albums*, so it's not only about introducing a "new" instrument.

*on Miles in the Sky (1968) and Filles de Kilimanjaro. (february, 1969). But I think the first jazzrecord released featuring el-piano is Sun Ra and his Arkestra - Super-Sonic Jazz, from 1956 or 1957).


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 00:35
From this list I'd choose either Basket of Light or Abbey Road - voted for the former. My overall favourite from 1969 is Ummagumma.

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 00:55
  1. Trout Mask Replica
  2. In A Silent Way
  3. In The Court of The Crimson King


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 00:58
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

From this list I'd choose either Basket of Light or Abbey Road - voted for the former. My overall favourite from 1969 is Ummagumma.
Yes, I suppose I should have included the latter album, although I'm not personally very fond of it. But I'm also glad I didn't, because if I did - Pentangle's stunning little jazzfolk-gem wouldn't have gotten its first vote. 


Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 02:01
My vote goes to Fairport's 'Liege and Lief'...hang on a minute - but I can vote for Led Zeppelin's debut? Shurely shome mishtake?


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 02:19
Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

My vote goes to Fairport's 'Liege and Lief'...hang on a minute - but I can vote for Led Zeppelin's debut? Shurely shome mishtake?
Not really, as there's no escaping my personal preferences. Sandy Denny's voice is on of the most beautiful in popular music but I don't like it when Fairport Convention try to "rock" their folk - which is why I find Pentangle a far superior ensemble. And Led Zeppelin I is undoubtly incomparably more influential and important album.


Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 03:09
^ Methinks one overestimates the importance of Led Zeppelin's first album, especially in a progressive rock forum.  This discussion belongs elsewhere...


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 03:51
KC is my fave from this list, but Ummagumma would be my fave of the year.

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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 04:16
Too many good ones to single out just one, but it is nice to see Os Mutantes mentioned. Because of that it gets my vote.


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 04:54
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

but to me the ones I selected felt like they contributed to expand popular music and rock in general.
From the list Miles Davis - 'In a Silent Way'

Based on your statement (above)

Chicago Transit Authority - Chicago Transit Authority
Sly & the Family Stone - Stand!
The Who - Tommy
Lee Michaels - Lee Michaels
Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul
Grand Funk Railroad - Grand Funk (aka The Red Album)


Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 04:58
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 05:05
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

but to me the ones I selected felt like they contributed to expand popular music and rock in general.
From the list Miles Davis - 'In a Silent Way'

Based on your statement (above)

Chicago Transit Authority - Chicago Transit Authority
Sly & the Family Stone - Stand!
The Who - Tommy
Lee Michaels - Lee Michaels
Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul
Grand Funk Railroad - Grand Funk (aka The Red Album)
If any influential album, regardless of relevance/genre was taken into consideration, my list would have looked a lot different (and maybe Sly & the Family Stone would have been included - but after having found a place for some Pharoah Sanders, Nick Drake, Ennio Morricone, Joni Mitchell, Scott Walker, Robbie Basho... first). But the reason Chicago's first and Tommy isn't here is admittedly because I'm not the biggest fan.



Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 05:25
Abbey Road had the biggest impact on me at the time, followed by Tull, and this little band called King Crimson.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 09:57
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm very familiar with all of these albums other than the Manfred Mann and The Moody Blues.  I'm a bigger fan of the first half of the list than the second half. Really tough choice, especially between the first twelve. I will vote for the one I most want to put on right at this moment, which is Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air.
Both Manfred Mann Chapter Three albums are really interesting, loose, fuzzy psych/jazzrock that has very little - or practically nothing in common with both former or latter Manfred Mann-incarnations. The occasional vocals won't impress anyone, but I find weakish whispers easier to digest and accept than nasal germans and rockopera-italians. Here's an instrumental from their (jazzier, and perhaps slightly more to my taste) 1970-follow up, Volume Two:

-On the Threshold of a Dream is the closest Moody Blues ever came to making kosmische:D - Still mostly cozy, warm and very melodic, but with some genuine soundexcursions into space. I love it - including the spoken word parts that others might find cringeworthy.

I hugely enjoyed the Manfred Mann track you posted, very much up my alley as one would expect.  I checked out some of Moody Blues album and was really enjoying that too (will listen in full later for sure as well as to more Manfred Mann.  I think I once glibly said about Manfred Mann, good, but he's no Herbie Mann, but obviously both Manns (or should that be Menn) made music that I would love and I just hadn't explored enough.


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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 13:51
There's a lot of albums here i really love; but i'll give my vote to an lp that has no votes yet and in my view has cast a long, long shadow of influence on modern electronic music (probably not so much Prog or Rock in general) and that is An Electric Storm by White Noise. Actually its a record i have a bit of a love/hate relationship with but Delia Derbyshire and David Vorhaus created something truly groundbreaking and unsettling.. and i am a huge fan of Delia Derbyshire's work with the BBC radiophonic workshop!

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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 15:06
Great poll and impossible to choose only one!!

King crimson, Zappa, Beatles, Miles and East Of Eden are paradigmatic and amazing albums!!

Another great one, Touch - "Touch"


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 11:24
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I hugely enjoyed the Manfred Mann track you posted, very much up my alley as one would expect.  I checked out some of Moody Blues album and was really enjoying that too (will listen in full later for sure as well as to more Manfred Mann.  I think I once glibly said about Manfred Mann, good, but he's no Herbie Mann, but obviously both Manns (or should that be Menn) made music that I would love and I just hadn't explored enough.
:D -I'm glad you enjoyed it! I find that track highly addictive. It has this free flowing, but steady groove that just seem to happen - and keeps plodding along magnificently. Like it's made on the spot (but probably isn't). I don't know what I'm talking about... I think you can look forward to the "epic" Happy Being Me as well. Great fun!

-I have a soft spot for the Moodies to begin with. And when I get space sounds instead of the "Light Orchestral Music interludes" on Days of Future Passed - I'm sold.


Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 15:57
ITCOTCK, Abbey Road, Sea Shanties, Santana, Arzachel and Mercator Projected are my picks here. Add also Ummagumma.
Nice to see Os Mutantes, but I prefer their later albums "A" e o "Z" and Tudo Foi Feito Pelo Sol.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 10:26
3 lps on the list I don't own but have heard,,,,,, but I chose ITCOTCK.....even though it might be an obvous choice that LP made a huge impression on me when I first heard it in April of 1970.....6 months after it's release.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 16:21
Abbey Road and Uncle Meat.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 03:40
From the list Led Zep II as it's just a great album and 'progressive' within the Heavy Blues Rock scene (well they practically invented it!).

I may have voted for The Nice s/t album if it had been an option. Its a bit of a 'cheat' as only the first half was new studio material but it's a strong album nevertheless if not as innovative as their previous two albums.

 


Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: October 21 2021 at 10:10
You're killing me here!  Trout Mask Replica v Mercator Projected v Joy of a Toy v Phallus Dei?  And those were just the ones that I surely could have happily voted for if Soft Machine Two hadn't been up there.  The 7/4 rhythm on side 2 alone clinches it for the Softs.  To clarify, I voted for Soft Machine.


Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: December 18 2023 at 22:33
Zeppelin II, followed by their debut, Zappa, Santana and Terry Riley. 


Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: December 19 2023 at 00:13
"In the Court of the Crimson King." Peerless.


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: December 19 2023 at 02:03
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
The Beatles - Abbey Road
Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 19 2023 at 02:39
Let's see the VILPs of 1970. Tongue


Posted By: Boi_da_boi_124
Date Posted: December 27 2023 at 21:46
Abbey Road, baby.



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