Who Likes Shadow Gallery?
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Topic: Who Likes Shadow Gallery?
Posted By: Uther Pendragon
Subject: Who Likes Shadow Gallery?
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:42
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I thought I'd post this topic here because I've asked so many people if
they like Shadow Gallery and haven't even found anyone who's heard of
them! I think they're seriously under-rated and deserve more attention.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:48
Many of us like them very much ... just search in the forum for "Shadow Gallery", or read the reviews! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Uther Pendragon
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:51
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Do you know where I can get hold of a copy of Tyranny? I just got into the band, I bought Room V and thought it was awesome.
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 11:37
i LOVE shadow gallery - i couldnt buy any of their stuff where i live so Mr.Limewire gave it to me  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 11:43
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LOVE THAT BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Own only 2 albums but I'm allready a fanboy... Gonna get another one or 2 for chrismass!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:01
I love them!! And I also own all of their albums 
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Posted By: pepolo
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:12
| I like them! |
Posted By: Orbert
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:14
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I grabbed Carved in Stone off Usenet one time, just on a whim, and was very impressed. The opening tune, "Cliffhanger", is pretty cool, and the interludes which connect the first couple of songs was kinduv a neat idea. But only the first three songs, before it starts becoming cliche. When I realized what they'd done, I had to laugh. The "Ghost Ship" suite meanders a little, but what the heck; it's an "epic". They obviously take the prog side seriously, but the music is rather pop-sounding, and blending those two sides is always the great challenge of a band that wants to be taken seriously as musicians, but also, you know, get some kind of popularity. So often, such efforts descend into cheese, and "cheesey" is a word I do hear applied to Shadow Gallery from time to time. I guess I can understand it, but I don't care. I like it when bands try to push things, and Shadow Gallery go for it. I went ahead and grabbed the other three albums, and also the new one when it came out. It's different, but also pretty good. I have to burn it all to a CD-R so I can give it a proper listen (in other words, in the car). But what I've heard so far, I like. ------------- In and around the lake... 
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Posted By: mr.burns
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:24
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Yes we like!The first one is definitly the best,its awesomme.The others arent bad either,but i think theyre a little bit uneven.I might add that i own all off them myself.I also have to say,that i`ve listened to the first album maybe 35 times alone.The other ones i have not listened to so much,maybe thats the problem.I feel the same about draem theater,the first is definitly the best. ------------- Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:32
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SHADOW GALLERY is one of my favorite Band!!! I own only 2 CD : Room v and Shadow Gallery |
Posted By: mr.burns
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:35
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Ahhh,the selftitled debut cd.The queen of the city of ice is worth the price alone.A splendid album ------------- Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:36
The production sucks, but the music is top. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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mr.burns wrote:Posted By: GFoyle
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:40
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I think they are a quite good band, but it took me a while I got into them
(through Room V, which is the best I got the rest of them as well so I could compare). They are not any means my favorites, but I enjoy listening them once in a while. |
Posted By: mr.burns
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:40
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One have to remember that the album is 13 years old.And it is also a debut album.And i think maybe thats the problem witj the other albums,theyre overproduced.It sounds almost like film music,and also to much ballads.But hey,thats only my opinion.How do you guys feel about drem theaters debut album? ------------- Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy. |
Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:41
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They are at the top of prog metal, I think they are the best prog metal band together with Opeth at the moment. Just love them! ------------- "All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste." - GENTLE GIANT |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:42
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The other albums are fine - their debut was actually a demo, recorded on semi-professional equipment. The DT debut is quite good ... but I really prefer Awake over ANY other DT album. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:44
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Myabe InsideOut Will do something and make a nice remixed version of the album... Maybe Magna Carta will sell InsideOut the album.. me hopes so... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: mr.burns
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:47
I cant be the only one who thinks the first dt album is the best.I really have to try to convert some people But then again,it is the dt album i`ve listened to most so maybe thats why.------------- Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy. |
Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:49
Well said, I absolutely agree. "Scenes From A Memory" is maybe their most ambitious record they've ever done, but "Awake" contains something very special (Kevin Moore ------------- "All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste." - GENTLE GIANT |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:50
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Maybe you should first decide whether you're sure about it before you try to convert people ... there's a pretty strong consensus among prog metal fans that their debut is not their best album. But there's no arguing about taste, is there? BTW: Check out the Symphony X debut if you don't know it already ... amazing album! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: ShaggyMcShagg7
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:51
| Shadow Galley is amazing, I own all their albums. |
Posted By: mr.burns
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:53
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Ì`m just trying to open youre eyes!Come on,give it a go ------------- Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:55
My eyes are open, not to worry. I've listened more than enough to all the Dream Theater albums ... they're one of my favorite bands. My favorite album is Awake, followed by Scenes and I&W. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: mr.burns
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:59
Ok,iknow when something is hopeless Just a joke.I`m off to look at the worldcup qualifing game between norway and moldova.Goodspeed people------------- Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy. |
Posted By: progmaniaczka
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 15:06
I admire them very much, I own only 1 CD  , but hope to buy at least one more ------------- |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:05
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I've just finished my 1st review of Tyranny! Its my debut, and like Shadow Gallery's one, it sound like a demo! But still, what do Ya lot think of it? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:13
^ not bad at all!  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:16
Any suggestions, Mike? I wanna be a colab here... Help me be a good one!------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:31
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Just our of curiousity, dear lady, which album is that? The reason for me asking is that I'm trying to comprehend how anyone can "admire something very much" being based on only 1 CD. And what is that in this particular albums which made you fall in love with the band immediately, if you don't mind me asking??? As for myself - I have all of their albums and quite like some of them, but I'm being far from any admiration - just good quality prog-metal...with all usual ups and downs ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 17:21
| I have one of their CDs, called 'Legacy' ..i dont think it is well liked by the Shadow gallery fans, but I think is is very good. Very good, solid instrumentation, well produced, VERY good vocal arrangements. I do like the song 'Colors' very much. Decent band. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 17:23
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Colors is one of their lighter songs ... you might like Carved in Stone, their second album. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: tennyson
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 22:49
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Ireally like them alot... I own Tyranny and Carved in Stone. I like Tyranny just a bit better, but they both are great albums from a great band, I am soon planning to get some more stuff from them... ------------- Writer stares with glassy eyes, defies the empty page... |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 04:37
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hi Uther, I would suggest trying either ebay or amazon for Tyranny...a copy will come up sooner or later I've just looked on Amazon, and there is one copy in the UK for £13.81 through recordshop.net at the moment... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 05:02
Obviously she wanted to say she admired this one album - I don't see any reason why this harmless imprecision should attract (negative?) attention. On topic - I only own "Legacy", and if it's supposed to be their weakest album then I'm really missing out on something big ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Progzilla
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 13:08
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I've liked Shadow Gallery ever since I bought Carved In Stone
completely at random in.. 1998 I think. I have never got over the
cheesiness though, it's pops up here and there, but it's kind of
charming in the end. For all of you who have one or two albums, you won't be disappointed with the rest, they have a very solid discography. Favourite tracks: First Light, Roads of Thunder, Crystalline Dream ------------- Currently listening to: - Andromeda - Pagan's Mind - Kamelot |
Posted By: Progzilla
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 13:14
Off topic but anyway: I long though that DT was high above anybody else, I was indeed a big DT fan. I've listened to WDADU alot, and it's among the three albums that periodically take turns as being the best DT ever made (the others being Images & Words and Awake). So Mr.Burns, you are not alone! ------------- Currently listening to: - Andromeda - Pagan's Mind - Kamelot |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 13:29
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I think this sums it up very well ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 15:08
I do not think you are missing out on something really great. IMO Carved In Stone is better than Legacy, and Tyranny is their best, and Room V is their weakest. But again, it's down to musical taste and preferences. I did not mean to be negative whatsoever, and fail to understand where in my post you see it. But word "admire" certainly gets my attention, as to me it sounds very deep and profound, and being not able to share this feeling towards Shadow Gallery, I was curious about this "admiration" phenomenon. Realising that poster is a woman, I tried to be as polite as I possibly can. But you seem to have stood up for a lady, and although same was not necessary (as no one was attempting to attack her), this fact alone describes you as perfect gentleman, which is very nice to notice.
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Posted By: progmaniaczka
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 07:32
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Admiration is quite distinct from love isn't it.
BTW sorry for not specifying my opinion on Shadow Gallery.. in fact, I've possessed only 1 CD (Room V) [which was called admirable composition by me], although I've also been honoured to listen to Tyranny record.. Why have i dared to call it like this? I'll let You know that by and large, it has managed to capture my imagination (which happens quite seldom) besides, it(their music) is exuberant and at the same time so soft(for me at least), that I've took liking to it very quickly. If i still haven't live up to your expectations (when it comes to my reasoning- sorry in advance). Manunkind it was nice of You.
EVERYTHING IS A MATTER OF TASTE <peace> ------------- |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 08:22
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You don't have to be sorry, especially in advance - very reasonable reasoning of yours. It's just a light conversation, you should not take it too seriously, and never personally. And Manunkind proved to be very kind indeed. I listened to Room V yesterday night, and now I like it even less than in the beginning. It coincided with me exploring Birdsongs of Mesozoic works, - maybe that's why; but never mind, as you said - "matter of taste". Take it easy and enjoy whatever you like. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Bionic Commando
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 09:35
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I've been a big fan of Shadow Gallery for quite some time. Got all their albums. I wouldn't say Legacy is the weakest. I'd go as far to say its one of their strongest. "First light" is incredible and Cliffhanger 2 is just supreme. The reason why they aren't all that well known is because they've never performed properly live together, and they have their own day-jobs. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 17:31
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I received a lot of undeserved praise here - it takes very little to stand up for someone on the Internet. Still, thank you, Progmaniaczka and Eugene Re Shadow Gallery, I really like "Legacy" and if the other albums are even better... well... Are they great in a more objective meaning of the word? Probably not. "Legacy" has its flaws, for example I still fail to hear an organising principle in "First Light" (sorry, Bionic Commando), to me it just sounds like a few very good, but unrelated songs glued together quite arbitrarily. And yeah, from the admittedly very little I heard by Birdsongs of the Mezozoic, they are a tough act to beat. It's no wonder that Shadow Gallery can pale in comparison. But this doesn't really change my attitude towards them.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 19:46
| I love Shadow Gallery. The first album i heard from them was Tyranny and i just loved every bit of it. Legacy was alright too, but i find Room V to be just amazing. They really broke the formula that they had been using in the past. |
Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 19:50
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Shadow Gallery? Nope, sorry. Bought one album and sold it back after 3 listens. Maybe I'm missing something...but I don't think so. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 17:49
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I heard the debut album a couple a weeks ago, as well as Carved In Stone. I liked both and have ordered 3 albums by them (Shadow Gallery, Carved In Stone, Tyranny) ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 11:04
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^You did a good job there, BEJAY! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 11:16
| I think they're good- but not the best. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 11:40
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I found "Carved In Stone" in a cutout bin in an outlet mall 2 years ago. It didn't impress me then. I'll give it another go. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:10
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OK. I listened to it this morning. It's not quite as bad as I remembered. But not great. Kind of like Kansas around the time of "Power". Mundane songwriting with flashes of interesting instrumentation. It doesn't suck, but I wonder why anyone could worship these guys. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 16:47
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I've heard through all three SG records i ordered now(got them in the mail earlier today). They are all excellent, and currently, Carved In Stone is my favorite ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 16:49
^Another one in the chruch! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: Kris_man
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 23:43
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If I hate the song Legacy, does that mean I will probably dislike the rest of Shadow Gallery's stuff? ------------- http://karpy.blogspot.com - http://karpy.blogspot.com |
Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 00:40
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The first SG CD I heard was Carved in Stone and I will not lie if I say that that changed my life. Since then on I love Shadow Gallery... It's my favorite band, I have all thier CD and I confess I am a Hard Core Die Fan! LONG LIVE SHADOW GALLERY! ------------- ********** **razifa** ********** |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 00:49
Don't base your opinion on their earlier work.They have matured quit a bit into an amazing band.Try the concept album Tyranny,the story from that album is continued on their newest release Room V(a brilliant cd -------------  |
Posted By: Syndromet
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 02:26
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I have grown sick and tired of allmost all the progmetal groups, but for some reason I love Shadow Gallery. Discovered them when I saw that Labrie had a litle part on the tyrany album. From that day I had a new favourite. -------------  It is said to be the first Test-pressing of the corean release??
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Posted By: Shark Sandwich
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 13:01
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Great band! I was so impressed with 'Room V' that I now wish I had checked them out before. I think it was because I didn't see any of their albums in stores but I had read good things about them. They kinda remind me of what made Dream Theater so good before, especially now that DT aren't so good anymore... |