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Topic: Pink Floyd - The Best of the Worst
Posted By: JD
Subject: Pink Floyd - The Best of the Worst
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 06:39
Did they get it right ?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 06:43
No, they didn't get it right. 
A lot of great songs in that list.

They also mentioned how the critics at the time received those song, which if you ask me it's totally irrelevant. 


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 06:47
Aww, "See-Saw" is honestly one of my favourite PF songs. I also really love "Sysyphus", "A Saucerful Of Secrets" and "Learning To Fly".


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 07:15
The writer was really bored and decided to blame somebody...


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 07:44
The Nile Song and Saucerful Of Secrets are excellent.

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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 08:55

wrong wrong wrong!  LOL


See-Saw and The Nile Song, among my favorites.

Pow R. Toc H...   downright heresy.         (seems like they tossed a coin or somethin'.. maybe Take Up Thy Stethoscope...? anyway, don't mess with Piper  ;) )
 
Grand Vizier's and Sisyphus we could talk...

About the 80's stuff and onward.. I don't even know it  (except Take It Back, that I like enough).

For the best, I wouldn't mind voting for Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast or Corporal Clegg.




Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 09:11
Not really. I can think of many other PF songs that are poorly composed, orchestrated, and instrumented.


Posted By: fredyair
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 09:22
Pointless list. Like any other list is totally subjective, and as once a wine expert said: The best wine is the one YOU like, so it applies to music. If the list was one constructed by people votes we can accept it as the most or least liked but never best or worst.
And that is my opinion and applies to all lists.


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:06
^Well then, there will not be much of interest to you in these forums... all lists and polls.

And "Another Pink Floyd Poll"???


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:11
Best of lists are done by people who get the songs, worst of lists are done by people who don't get them.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:41
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Did they get it right ?
No this is a list made by and for boring people. 8-9 of these (all 1967-1970) are truly amazing.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 12:00
Well, our esteemed site gets a couple of mentions, and a huge shout out to Hugues who is quoted directly. Oh, the pressures of fame!

I rather like both Fletcher Memorial Home and Saucerful of Secrets, and can listen to Dogs of War without getting overly embarrassed. Aside from that, not much to argue about, really.


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 12:45
Progarchives critic Sean Trane  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1446" rel="nofollow - described  it as “near-atrocious U2-esque.” Note that a comparison to the band  https://www.u2.com/" rel="nofollow - U2  is not a compliment here.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 12:53
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Progarchives critic Sean Trane  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1446" rel="nofollow - described  it as “near-atrocious U2-esque.” Note that a comparison to the band  https://www.u2.com/" rel="nofollow - U2  is not a compliment here.

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And I always thought he was PA's worst reviewer. Serves me right.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 14:53
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No, they didn't get it right. 
A lot of great songs in that list.

They also mentioned how the critics at the time received those song, which if you ask me it's totally irrelevant. 

Yep. I only agree with a few being not too good like dogs of war, Seamus and corporal Clegg. Actually dogs of war isn't too bad. Seamus and CC on the other hand.....

Also, let there be more light is a great opener imo.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 14:58
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No, they didn't get it right. 
A lot of great songs in that list.

They also mentioned how the critics at the time received those song, which if you ask me it's totally irrelevant. 

Yep. I only agree with a few being not too good like dogs of war, Seamus and corporal Clegg. Actually dogs of war isn't too bad. Seamus and CC on the other hand.....

Also, let there be more light is a great opener imo.

Seamus and Corporal Clegg are meant to be humorous, not to be taken that seriously. I don't have a problem with them. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 15:20
That might be so but that howling dog gets on my nerves after a while. ;)

Also, it's interesting that they had most of the Ummagumma studio tracks on the list but not Interstellar Overdrive. IO is mostly just random sounds(some might say noise) and not very musical at all(imo). 


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 16:30
Pink Floyd rules!! And by that I mean I have been listening to Floyd since around 1973-74, I have found that almost all of their albums have aged very well and are still more than relevant in my music collection.

No the list is wrong, I mean what list is ever right


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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 20:14
Man this writer really seems to have it out for A Saucerful Of Secrets, I love that album! Not their best by any means, but it's certainly an excellent little nugget of psychedelia.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 20:34
Opinions are like a**holes. This guy just has several sphincters. 

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 03:23
Bar Let There Be More Light, Breakfast, Nile, Pow R & Saucerful, I don't find much to disagree with the multiple-sphincter dude who made the list.

The other 15 would probably be in my own worst 20, should I ever find the time and troubke to set a list of bthe sort.


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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 06:53
Big fan of Mudmen, all the tracks on Saucerful of Secrets except Corporal Clegg.  Prefer the Mason and Wright's contributions to Ummagumma over Waters and Gilmour's.  Never understood the beef with Dogs of War.  Named my dog Seamus so I like that track.  I guess if you have to make a list some of those others like Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast would be on it and a couple of others but for a worst of list should have started with many songs on More.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 07:13
Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

Big fan of Mudmen, all the tracks on Saucerful of Secrets except Corporal Clegg.  Prefer the Mason and Wright's contributions to Ummagumma over Waters and Gilmour's.  Never understood the beef with Dogs of War.  Named my dog Seamus so I like that track.  I guess if you have to make a list some of those others like Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast would be on it and a couple of others but for a worst of list should have started with many songs on More.

More is one of my favorite PF albums... 
Wright's and Gilmour's songs on Ummagumma are fine. 
Live versions of Grantchester Meadows are better, like this one:


Also what's wrong with Julia Dream or See saw, Let There Be Light, or Mudmen... 




Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 07:24
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

The writer was really bored and decided to blame somebody...

Hi,

Nahhhhh ... I would have fired the writer on the spot for writing one of the worst pieces of anything!

This way, the writer might learn how to do something with a much better direction than being stupid!


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 08:01
His name is Hélène Carignan btw.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 08:19
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Did they get it right ?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1

No one noticed the terrible mistake in the introduction?
Roger Waters replaced Syd Barrett? Really? It predicts the quality of the list. LOL



Posted By: hergest ridge
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 11:18
According to them, "Let there be more light" would be “melodically, harmonically and lyrically boring. "
I really don't agree with them. This track is one of my favorites from Pink Floyd !


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 15:25
I don't fully disagree with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carignan" rel="nofollow - Miss Grape 's list, but there are a few songs that definitely don't belong to PF's worst 20:
  • Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict.
    A rather weird piece. Maybe not music, but I like that old Scottish speech and it is a perfect transition between Grantchester Meadows and The Narrow Way.
  • Let There Be More Light.
    Could be my favourite track off A Saucerful of Secrets.
  • Mudmen.
    The author apparently has an peculiar aversion against Richard Wright's compositions.
  • Sisyphus parts 1-4.
    This is arguably the most cinematic piece in Pink Floyd's entire catalog. Anyway, the author spells the name correctly.
  • The Nile Song.
    Definitely one of the best tracks off More.There are quite few others on this album to choose from, though it is still a good album.
  • See-saw.
    Another charming Wright song. Not the most noticeable track on the album, but quite out of place on such a list.
  • Pow R. Toc H.
    Maybe the most significant track save one (Interstellar Overdrive) from their psychedelic period.
  • A Saucerful of Secrets.
    One of the classics of their early days. Did you understand the music, Hélène, or was it all in vain?


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 15:58
Kind of pointless as it totally avoids the popular albums. Would have been more interesting to come up with stuff from the well known albums. Have A Cigar? or even The Great Gig In The Sky would have been controversial and started a debate. Not saying they are bad though should anyone jump on me...


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 16:23
Well I certainly didn't want to wind anyone up too much with this post...(or did I Evil Smile) but I do agree with a lot of the responses. It always makes me laugh a little when I see these types of lists, and often you can tell how well, or un-well the author is versed on the music/band. Like the Syd Barrett/Roger Waters comment. In the first paragraph I'm already shaking my head with a Waaaa?????
But since 'prog music' articles come up very rarely, I just though I'd share.




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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 18:14
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Did they get it right ?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1

Drop some LSD, listen to those songs and then check back!!  LOL




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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 08:16
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Did they get it right ?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1

Drop some LSD, listen to those songs and then check back!!  LOL



Hi,

Sadly, this is the synthetic age, and these folks don't know the difference whatsoever, and it is very well visible in this board, btw. 

However, I DO NOT want folks simply doing this stuff for the sake of doing it, and just get folks vaping and doing cheapashcrap dope and thinking they are stoned ... they are merely dazed by bad chemicals, and have no idea what the real thing is like, and will never try it, anyway!

One would hope that they could even read a little Huxley, but asking someone to read something, specially here, is like asking them to jump off the pier into the ocean ... "it's too cold", and they haven't jumped in yet!

The music, is not any more about dope than it was about anything else ... when Syd sings about the plane landing upside down, we think he is stoned, but he could just as easily been giving you the daily news in a flash, and we decided that it was stoney stuff instead. Story suggested otherwise, but in reality, not a lot of the lyrics by Syd were so stoned as to right out in the middle of nowhere, and I think that the members of the band ensured that the stuff stayed well focused, instead of it just being an Alice in Wonderland, which it wasn't by very far! It wasn't a child's story, for example.

There is a lot of great music with dope, and a lot more cheapashcrap music without dope that is being flouted as a hit or some meaningful this or that, which will change you life!

I just wish that more of us would be more "real" about things, and not so stuck on silly notions and favoritism, which is that article seems to show ... that any music that doesn't "fit" its list is crap! 

We should all gather up some coins and send the magazine and the writer a very large mirror for them to look at since all they are showing is their Dorian Grey side! And we give them the attention they deserve, instead of us giving the article more "fame" and "hits", because these days in the Internet it is all about the hits, and we just gave them a shish load of them which will gladly help them go to the bank and show that advertiser that they get the hits!

We still don't get it! Same thing some 50 years plus ago when folks were telling some church idiots to shut up ... and instead they made the thing famous, and ushered in the new beta and then video market full force with a million seller and then some! You still don't get it?


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 08:58
^I was joking, M!  It was part of the times.  Do some kind of drug, put on psych music, drift off.  

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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 14:23
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

Big fan of Mudmen, all the tracks on Saucerful of Secrets except Corporal Clegg.  Prefer the Mason and Wright's contributions to Ummagumma over Waters and Gilmour's.  Never understood the beef with Dogs of War.  Named my dog Seamus so I like that track.  I guess if you have to make a list some of those others like Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast would be on it and a couple of others but for a worst of list should have started with many songs on More.

More is one of my favorite PF albums... 
Wright's and Gilmour's songs on Ummagumma are fine. 
Live versions of Grantchester Meadows are better, like this one:


Also what's wrong with Julia Dream or See saw, Let There Be Light, or Mudmen... 



Love Mudmen, my fav from OBC, everything is very good on SoS except Corporal Clegg.  Julia Dream,  Narrow Way and Grandchester Meadows are fine.  Several Species is in the running though.  More isn't terrible by any stretch but for me I would have to start there to find a worst of list.  PF is my top band so finding songs to consider the worst is tough.  


Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 18:33
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Did they get it right ?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/pink-floyds-worst-songs/ss-AARKk8z?li=AAggNb9#image=1

Drop some LSD, listen to those songs and then check back!!  LOL



Hi,

Sadly, this is the synthetic age, and these folks don't know the difference whatsoever, and it is very well visible in this board, btw. 

However, I DO NOT want folks simply doing this stuff for the sake of doing it, and just get folks vaping and doing cheapashcrap dope and thinking they are stoned ... they are merely dazed by bad chemicals, and have no idea what the real thing is like, and will never try it, anyway!

One would hope that they could even read a little Huxley, but asking someone to read something, specially here, is like asking them to jump off the pier into the ocean ... "it's too cold", and they haven't jumped in yet!

The music, is not any more about dope than it was about anything else ... when Syd sings about the plane landing upside down, we think he is stoned, but he could just as easily been giving you the daily news in a flash, and we decided that it was stoney stuff instead. Story suggested otherwise, but in reality, not a lot of the lyrics by Syd were so stoned as to right out in the middle of nowhere, and I think that the members of the band ensured that the stuff stayed well focused, instead of it just being an Alice in Wonderland, which it wasn't by very far! It wasn't a child's story, for example.

There is a lot of great music with dope, and a lot more cheapashcrap music without dope that is being flouted as a hit or some meaningful this or that, which will change you life!

I just wish that more of us would be more "real" about things, and not so stuck on silly notions and favoritism, which is that article seems to show ... that any music that doesn't "fit" its list is crap! 

We should all gather up some coins and send the magazine and the writer a very large mirror for them to look at since all they are showing is their Dorian Grey side! And we give them the attention they deserve, instead of us giving the article more "fame" and "hits", because these days in the Internet it is all about the hits, and we just gave them a shish load of them which will gladly help them go to the bank and show that advertiser that they get the hits!

We still don't get it! Same thing some 50 years plus ago when folks were telling some church idiots to shut up ... and instead they made the thing famous, and ushered in the new beta and then video market full force with a million seller and then some! You still don't get it?

I didn't realize you were also elitist about what drugs you take/took. It's almost funny.


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 19:43
Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

I didn't realize you were also elitist about what drugs you take/took. It's almost funny.
That ain't drugs, that's full-blown dementia. 


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 23:35
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Progarchives critic Sean Trane  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1446" rel="nofollow - described  it as “near-atrocious U2-esque.” Note that a comparison to the band  https://www.u2.com/" rel="nofollow - U2  is not a compliment here.

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Well, the guitar style on that track is almost the same as "Blue Light" on Gilmour's second album, released when U2 was some little known Irish band of the 80s. I think it's a typical Gilmour's solo stuff instead.
In my own review, if I remember well, I have suggested to consider it as just a part of a string of three consecutive songs. It can be appreciated as a "movement" into a little suite.
If you think to The Final Cut, it's more or less what Waters did (a little better, IMO) with Southampton Docks.
Another comparison that can be made is with "The Order Of The Universe" by ABWH. The Howe's intro is quite similar.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 23:44
...and let's just say that the list is rubbish. The only song listed there that O'm used to skip is Alan's, but it has its reasons as it was part of an aborted idea.


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 06:55
Given that I really don't like anything they did up to Atom Heart Mother and that after Animals, everything was very patchy, I can't really disagree with this list.
I could have added everything on The Wall except Run Like Hell and Comfortably Numb.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 06:57
Saying that you don't like PF was easier.
More or less my feelings with Genesis.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 06:58
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Given that I really don't like anything they did up to Atom Heart Mother and that after Animals, everything was very patchy, I can't really disagree with this list.
I could have added everything on The Wall except Run Like Hell and Comfortably Numb.



Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 08:55
Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

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I didn't realize you were also elitist about what drugs you take/took. It's almost funny.

Hi,

Most folks that make vapid and empty comments have no idea. It's all too much for them, and the fact that it rips apart their idea of reality is an issue.

Folks that know the difference, would not even try to make the comment you did!

But, for the record, it's not EVER about the drugs. We've created a monumental idealistic and full of sh*t reality about the drugs, and now we use substitutes from the local herbery that are cheap, and an insult to the "dope" itself. But you would never even consider that you are being ripped off! Confused


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 11:39
As timely as today's forum posts, they drop anther one that can't go unshared. I haven't reviewed it all yet so no comment for now.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 11:42
And just like that...on the first slide they say they are going to list the bands alphabetically. Then they start with Alan Parson's Project...(sigh) Wacko
But wait...there's this quote.

"The band's 1960 debut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukgraQ-xkp4" rel="nofollow - In the Court of the Crimson King "

Why do I even bother ??



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 11:43
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

As timely as today's forum posts, they drop anther one that can't go unshared. I haven't review it all yet so no comment for now.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1

not bad, only British and American bands though, plus Rush as always. 


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 11:52
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

As timely as today's forum posts, they drop anther one that can't go unshared. I haven't review it all yet so no comment for now.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1
 
Any list with Gentle Giant in it should also have Van der Graaf Generator in it.
 



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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 11:56
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Seamus and Corporal Clegg are meant to be humorous, not to be taken that seriously. I don't have a problem with them.
 
I quite like Corporal Clegg.
 



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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 12:57
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

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I didn't realize you were also elitist about what drugs you take/took. It's almost funny.

Hi,

Most folks that make vapid and empty comments have no idea. It's all too much for them, and the fact that it rips apart their idea of reality is an issue.

Folks that know the difference, would not even try to make the comment you did!

But, for the record, it's not EVER about the drugs. We've created a monumental idealistic and full of sh*t reality about the drugs, and now we use substitutes from the local herbery that are cheap, and an insult to the "dope" itself. But you would never even consider that you are being ripped off! Confused

I'll agree with you on your first count. I'm not an experienced commenter in this regard. I'm pretty much straight-edge to borrow a term from the punk scene. I guess that's why it seems all the more absurd and elitist to me that you would go on a small rant about how drugs used to be better in the 60s and 70s, and now they're worse, or not even real, or something.  It just seems to come from a very closed minded space, the same kind of space that would argue great "real" music stopped being made after 1973 or 1983 or 1993 etc.  But whatever man, this is supposed to be a discussion about this terrible Pink Floyd list. I'm just gonna stick to that.


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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)


Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 13:05
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

As timely as today's forum posts, they drop anther one that can't go unshared. I haven't review it all yet so no comment for now.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1
 
Any list with Gentle Giant in it should also have Van der Graaf Generator in it.
 


Agreed. Although I thought it wasn't a horrible list overall. At least they had more than DT to represent all of prog metal.  Seems to me they tended to favor slightly lighter fare at times (APP, Supertramp, Moody Blues, Procol Harum), but it's a little confusing to see a couple of those listed when they also seem to know Gentle Giant and Soft Machine deserve spots as well. So... not a horrible list. Kind odd choices here and there, but overall they hit a lot of names that deserved hitting.


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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 23:32
More than half of the songs I actually like. Yet I must admit that Several Species and The Grand Vizier's Garden Party are indeed perhaps the very worst songs from Floyd (though the flute parts on Grand Vizier's are actually kind of pretty). Now, I do like Take it Back (I don't care about the U2 similarity). Seamus I don't really like, though somehow the Mademoiselle Knobs version on Live at Pompeii doesn't seem to sound so bad to me. Let there be More Light I find really great... I believe that riff has actually been used a few times by other bands. I would have agreed with Alan's Psichedelic Breakfast for a good while, but now I have found that the little pieces of music within are actually kind of beautifu, only that the noises in between don't really help. I actually love The Hero's Return, one of the better on the album... but... it's got to be the single version that has parts 1 and 2 together... as it is in the album it's way to short to actually get to enjoy it; and The Fletcher Memorial Home is also really a great piece. Mudmen is another one that I like a lot... some very beautiful guitar playing there. I do have a soft spot for Julia Dream too. Sisyphus may not be very enjoyable to me in the middle parts, but the beginning and the end is really cool. The Nile song is also really great, one of the high points of More. Anisina is indeed one of the lowest points on that last album... yet, why didn't Gilmour make sure to get Dick Parry? I'm sure that song could have been fixed if only he had done so. Pow R Toc H never was a song I particularly enjoyed, but once I got to hear the live version on The Early Years I really got to apreciate that one. And a Saucerful of Secrets isn't a song I have liked so much either in studio, but the version on Ummagumma is pure gold.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 17 2021 at 01:15
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

As timely as today's forum posts, they drop anther one that can't go unshared. I haven't review it all yet so no comment for now.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/the-best-prog-rock-bands-of-all-time/ss-AAM3MdH?li=AAggNb9#image=1
 
Any list with Gentle Giant in it should also have Van der Graaf Generator in it.
 


yep take away Queensryche and add VDGG and it would be fine. Tool and The Mars Volta feature which is correct. Camel fans might be annoyed they aren't included though..



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