Things you wish artists could have or have done?
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Topic: Things you wish artists could have or have done?
Posted By: SuperMetro
Subject: Things you wish artists could have or have done?
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 16:49
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Pick 5 for this one. This is a poll about things you would wish each band had done so that they would have a greater reputation or made you happier with the band. I sort of wish that Gentle Giant had a 10 minute or up song, I would sort of like to see what that would be like. The longest thing GG had was Nothing At All at 9 minutes. I also wish Harmonium made a dixieland album, because they sadly only had 3 albums, with Dixie being one of the highlights off of Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison. And wish Camel did more suites, because The White Rider was great and Lady Fantasy was a masterpiece. They had Ice, Lawrence, A Nod and A Wink, and For Today, but those were weaker than the two suites(Except Ice which is on par). Theme One was a great instrumental cover by VDGG(Theme 1 was originally by the Beatles producer guy), but I wish VDGG had better instrumental breaks in their songs as most of them sound like avant-garde explosions or are riffs to the songs(I like both of them anyway at times though). My last one is that I wish Jethro Tull had more instrumentals, because it seems like they are perfect for it, look at Bouree! Sadly, that seems to be one of the only instrumentals in their discography(unless you count tracks on Passion Play individually or the Christmas album), and Jethro Tull seems to be into the songwriting part of it mostly.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 17:04
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KC new lineup album, Wyatt's non crippling, vocal less early RTF, long from GG, and 80s betterment. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 17:12
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Not sure what is meant by
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 18:14
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I could support most of these, but only voted for one: King Crimson - A studio album with the new line-up ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 18:23
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Well, I wouldn't want another album like ITCOTCK because that's what ITWOP was. We don't need three albums like that (as good as they are). ;)
So for me it was GG- song over ten minutes, Genesis - another side long suite ( I count supper's ready as that but not Duke), King Crimson - a studio album with the new lineup, prog rock bands doing it better in the 80s and ELP making a comeback after LB and ITHS.
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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 18:41
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I only vote on two: Most Italian Groups - A second album Most prog rock groups - Do better in the 80s ------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 00:59
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All the listed things would have been good. A second PF with Barrett is my choice. I disagree about "Onion". I like that album even if Howe has reused a riff from his solo works and Wakeman doesn't like it. I also have to say that the last YES album is quite bad, but if a band wants to continue and you don't like it, you can just avoid buying it. I don't care too much about Genesis and Harbour Of Tears is not instrumental Excellent point about Harmonium. Dixie is a fantastic track. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 03:48
 Exactly. Whilst I'm not the biggest fan of the last 2 Yes albums, I don't wish they hadn't been made, I can just not listen to them. Also I do like Union even if some don't.
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octopus-4 wrote:Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 09:42
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Another album by Chris Squire as good or better as Fish Out of Water. Went with another album by Italian prog bands. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 10:26
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Two things - no more Yes after Squire's death, and (not on the list) Martin Barre should return to Jethro Tull. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 11:30
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Jon Lord leading a really good instrumental rock/fusion group. More albums from Quiet Sun. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 11:40
| Genesis: A studio album with Bill Bruford and Steve Hackett |
Posted By: SuperMetro
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 11:57
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Another thing I sort of wish for is a collaboration of all the musicians of prog rock. There was one in the 70s with Colin Scot(I never heard it but according to someone on Sea of Tranquility, its a disappointment) |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 14:24
| I guess my main choice here is a recording of original material by the present King Crimson line up. Yes disbanding after Chris Squire’s death would be the other one. How about a recognition from Ian Anderson for Martin Barre real contributions (I mean the music he wrote for Tull but never got credited for)? Or an album of real collaboration between Chris Squire and Steve Hackett? |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 15:06
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Humped inflatable dolls in concert without getting arrested. Not that i want to witness such things but it would make great headlines. -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 19:37
| Other: Gentle Giant not breaking up in 1980 and continuing like most others (even if they were poppish). |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 19:38
I think Bruford guested on one of Steve's Genesis revisited albums but I could be wrong.
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 21:05
| ^ Thanks, I'll be checking this! |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: May 01 2022 at 02:25
| Definitely more instrumental tracks from Jethro Tull, but especially since Anderson lost his voice. His vocals IMHO have been unbearable for the last 30 years or so. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 07:16
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Interesting poll. My five from your list are: better 80s albums, studio album from the new KC lineup, another Genesis sidelong suite, second album from one-album Italian bands, and a suite from GG. A couple more I would add: A regular release of studio albums (like one every two years) from 5uu's between 2002 and their new one out this year. Scott Walker would have released more studio albums from 1984 onward than he had. These groups were still together and releasing albums on a regular basis: Henry Cow, The Science Group, Beardfish, This Heat, Yezda Urfa. These non-Italian one-album bands had a chance to release a second (or more) album: Et Cetera, Quill, Zaragon, Pollen, Weidorje, Afterglow, Khan (I'm sure there are many more I missed) ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 09:42
| I also wish Yes made one more album with Patrick Moraz. I've always felt they should have squeezed in another with him before GFTO. |
Posted By: EduTatsumi
Date Posted: May 04 2022 at 12:48
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1- Camel - More suites! 2- Jethro Tull - More instrumental tracks throughout albums 3- King Crimson - Another album like ITCOTCK
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 05 2022 at 23:25
| I went with King Crimson doing another album like the debut... or rather, that the original line-up would have stayed together at least for Wake of Poseidon. The new line-up doing a new album. And Pink Floyd doing an album with remaining members... I guess... though perhaps they have done just enough. As for Pink Floyd, I wish they had recorded and released a live album for their Animals tour (and perhaps even better, a live video), I wish David Cross had still been with King Crimson for Red. I wish Bill Bruford had stayed with Yes at least for the CttE tour (and so Yessongs still had featured him). And I wish Yes would do a new Union album featuring the current line-up and the AWR line-up. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 00:49
I have to admit, I did wonder if that was what the OP intended, but it is not how it is worded. I didn’t vote for another KC album like the debut, because that’s exactly what ITWOP is, and as much as I like it, it doesn’t even come close to the greatness that is ITCOTCK. BUT… If there had been an option to vote for another album with the same lineup as KC’s debut, I would have been all over that. 🤗 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 12:26
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Hi, NONE really. I don't like to feel that I have to tell an artist about his own work and what he sees or doesn't see. I might have a comment that may differ from what they are doing, but that is not meant as a criticism, and it was a similar situation when I met and talked to Daevid Allen in person for some time, and asked him about the Glissando School and his teaching within it. He specified that it was not so much about teaching anything as it was about seeing if they could find something else in music ... with what some thought was a style that most were not familiar or comfortable with, but it sounded fantastic anyway. He was very open about his creativity and he said that there was one thing he didn't have ... a closet where he hid some of his thoughts and ideas ... he said these all "lived" on their own time and place, not in his head! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 13:01
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I wish that quite a few would retire. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 19:31
Yeah, I know, the second one was just about a copy of the first one... and that's exactly it's flaw, because all of the equivalent parts are better on the debut. Yet, I believe the story would have been different if the original line-up had been present and contributing to the album, yet we will never know, of course. And you are right, it's a bit confusing what was intended by the OP because of this, and likely not exactly as I interpreted it, yet that's what I would have liked to go on. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 05:36
Hi, I wonder, how much of it, is about us wanting the same thing over and over again ... because if it didn't sound the same, none of us is going to like it! So, yeah, retiring would seem the right thing to do ... but c'mon ... are you going to tell Steinbeck, Hemingway, Sartre, Camus, Genet, Baldwin, Burroughs, Roth, and many others to retire? I'm not sure that we RESPECT the art of it all and the work from the folks themselves. And that is the hard part. They were a part of a moment in time, and they are not anymore a part of anything, but they have a right to continue their art, and us sitting here and telling them to go die off somewhere else is not right, or proper! You have to believe in the ART of it all ... or it's just another song in the top ten. Is that what you want? AND, if so, what is the point of PA? ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 07:03
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I wish that Helmut Koellen had not left Triumvirat after the Spartacus album in 1975, that he had not died so young, and that the lineup of musicians with Spartacus had created some more music. I also wish that Jurgen Dollase from Wallenstein had not sacked the band he had for the No More Love album from 1977, and that they had created some more music together. Also, that Italian jazz rock band Dedalus had created more music in the fusion style of that debut album of theirs.
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 11:07
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voted only one option Most Italian Groups - A second album i would love to ear another album of bands like St.Tropez, Allusa Falax, Apoteosi, Bella Band, Campo Di Marte, Blocco Mentale, Cervello, Odissea, etc
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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 14:48
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I voted for the one where Yes should have disbanded after Squire. They aren't Yes anymore. They're a cover band. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 16:43
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Only three votes: A new KC studio album with the current lineup Better 80s material End of Yes after Squire's death I would take back that last vote because Heaven and Earth (is that the name? I seem to have forgotten) was so awful even though Chris was still around, that it's pretty obvious his presence in the band was not the only thing that made the band good. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 16:46
| I wish they could have invisible powers or change color. |
Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 17:43
| King Crimson's new line -up in the studio. Roy Wood, Todd Rundgren, and Steve Hillage all making a studio album together. Dsve Stewart making another prog lp. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 08 2022 at 20:24
I rather wish they had brought Anderson and Wakeman back. Perhaps even Rabin, if they could keep with the two guitar players without killing each other. Or else, get Oliver back, if Rick would not be up to it. And I guess the bass player Rick brought for AWR and some of his latest albums, Pomroy I guess, would be better for the band. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 09 2022 at 02:26
NP: Roy Wood - Mustard (and still looking to get his Eddie and the Falcons) ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: June 06 2022 at 05:54
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Not prog at all, but wish Bruce Springsteen would just go away. So sick of hearing about: "life is hard, on the boulevard." ------------- Deafmoon |
Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: June 10 2022 at 13:13
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The only one that appealed to me was a new album with the current Crimson lineup. What I really wish for is that more vintage concerts were filmed and released on DVD/Blu-Ray. I would love to see a film of an ELP concert from the Brain Salad Surgery tour, Yes from the Going for the One tour, or Tull doing Thick as a Brick or A Passion Play in their entirety. Who knew at the time? I'll bet a lot of classic bands could kick themselves for not filming more of their tours.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 11 2022 at 06:31
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I wish classic prog rock bands had gotten on board with the "Unplugged" movement in the 1990s: all acoustic versions of some of their classic songs. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 12 2022 at 01:45
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Yes disbanding was my choice, sadly. I wish they could have kept the flame alive somehow, but it isn't working for whatever reason (mostly the passage of time). Keeping Ollie Wakeman with the group might have worked for a while. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 13 2022 at 20:13
| ^ Yes, they should never have changed him for Downes, at the most have had him as a guest for the Fly from Here suite, and then perhaps Howe could have stayed in Asia too with Downes as they had been doing. And then of course they should have allowed Anderson back when he was ready. Or now they should finally do the Union thing again. Of course, that's without considering why can't they just get along anymore, but it seems clear that the band as they are can't do something memorable anymore. |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 14 2022 at 04:22
| The great simplification that afflicted prog was already in full swing by the late 70s, rather than the 80s. There were some honourable exceptions in Europe (even Magma were not immune) and although they seem polar opposites both ELP and Henry Cow recorded 'final' albums in 1978 (Henry Cow's appeared in 79). Do better in the 80s...indeed, some excellent prog musicians had to go back to day jobs during this period! |
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: June 14 2022 at 05:21
| Gentle Giant |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 14 2022 at 06:37
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It’s interesting to come back to this poll, after not having paid attention to it for some time, and see the results. Normally I pay more attention to the comments than the poll results, but these are interesting because this is a poll where multiple votes are allowed, and usually in this instance there is not so great a distance between the options. It would be interesting to see a follow-up poll where multiple votes were NOT allowed, and including only the options from this poll which have attracted, I don’t know, say 12 or more votes. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |