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Topic: Symphonic metal.
Posted By: edefakiel
Subject: Symphonic metal.
Date Posted: October 26 2022 at 00:32
Sometimes I see tagged as "symphonic" metal albums that consists just of unrelated regular, or somewhat neoclassical, metal tracks with some strings sparsely present at the background. But this is not what I particularly enjoy.

I'm seeking after overly pompous, ambitious projects with interconnected songs, lush orchestration and greater than life scope. Examples (edited to include just my favorite ones, so you get a better idea):



https://xanthochroid.bandcamp.com/album/of-erthe-and-axen-act-i-2017" rel="nofollow - - https://xanthochroid.bandcamp.com/album/of-erthe-and-axen-act-i-2017







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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 26 2022 at 01:54
I don't know who can help you with that. Maybe Brandan (Necrotica) or Gordy.

I don't think three of the bands you mention here are symphonic metal (AAI, Devin and Gorguts), but then it's just my opinion. 
Here is a list of symphonic death metal bands you could explore, maybe you find something interesting, you might enjoy. 
https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php?b_where=s.style&b_what=Death&prefix=Symphonic" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php?b_where=s.style&b_what=Death&prefix=Symphonic

You might enjoy this band
Winds
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1463" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1463

I'll get back to this if I remember any band that fits your description. Smile






Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: October 26 2022 at 01:58
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I don't know who can help you with that. Maybe Brandan (Necrotica) or Gordy.

I don't think three of the bands you mention here are symphonic metal (AAI, Devin and Gorguts), but then it's just my opinion. 
Here is a list of symphonic death metal bands you could explore, maybe you find something interesting, you might enjoy). 
https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php?b_where=s.style&b_what=Death&prefix=Symphonic" rel="nofollow - https://metalstorm.net/bands/index.php?b_where=s.style&b_what=Death&prefix=Symphonic

You might enjoy this band
Winds
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1463" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1463

I'll get back to this if I remember any band that fits your description. Smile





The first band of that list is just what I'm talking about when I say that something doesn't sound symphonic to me despite having strings. SepticFlesh is really good, but doesn't seem inspired by classical and romantic elements in the same way that something like Empath is. 

I will listen to Winds, thank you.

If those bands I mentioned are not symphonic, nothing is.




Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 27 2022 at 22:34
I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 03:08
Time Requiem, with enough loans from Mozart and Bach to make you question at times if you arent indeed listening to a metal interpretation of classical music.

Rhapsody? 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 05:04
Symphonic Metal bands on Prog Archives:-

After Forever
Epica
Kamelot
Kingfisher Sky
Nightwish
Rhapsody of Fire
Therion


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 05:33
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.

Maybe I choose unwisely my words. All those bands are really good... They are just not the kind of greater than life, ambitious music that I seek. The albums I mentioned evoque some response that I only get from Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner... I don't know how to explain it. 


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 30 2022 at 23:28
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.


Maybe I choose unwisely my words. All those bands are really good... They are just not the kind of greater than life, ambitious music that I seek. The albums I mentioned evoque some response that I only get from Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner... I don't know how to explain it.†


I don't know so many of the bands you mentioned. I do know Wilderun, though not their last album. I know Sleep at the Edge of the Earth, and I mostly find the epic really something special (despite the fact I'm not really fond of growling)... I think I gave the next album a listen and didn't do much for me. I also do Know Empath... and I do love some Devin Townsend, but I didn't find that albus as greater than life... from the little I have heard of him, I do love Terria much more, but I believe there must be other albums from around that period (00's I guess) that should be just as great. From the ones I mentioned, from Within Temptation I find Mother Earth to be among my favourite albums overall and think is something really special. From Nightwish it's Imaginaerum. And from Therion Secret of the Runes. Otherwise, it's mostly the collection of songs throughout their discographies more than some particular albums.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 10:57
I just discovered this:



Which is completely in line with what I'm searching for. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 11:26
This is excellent also:

http://xanthochroid.bandcamp.com/album/of-erthe-and-axen-act-i-2017" rel="nofollow - https://xanthochroid.bandcamp.com/album/of-erthe-and-axen-act-i-2017


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 13:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Bp1iDiT2c&list=OLAK5uy_kaLKwFIXKm-nyr-IDyyvn0nIZinxG5IhQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Bp1iDiT2c&list=OLAK5uy_kaLKwFIXKm-nyr-IDyyvn0nIZinxG5IhQ
Since you brought up "Wilderun," here's Orphaned Land. They are so similar I cannot not recommend them to you.
Their album The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR is very similar to Epigone in my opinion, but UPaDM above is their "pompous" and "lush" album lol

All is One is even more symphonic than UPaDM, but I don't like it as much.



And while the symphonic elements are quite developed yet, ORwarriOR, as stated above is basically as pompous as and progressive as it gets, similar to Epigone, hence the comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX4bTzGWi_s&list=OLAK5uy_klSsbEVrtrtUREjg2VKNfzpLGZqkYaRjw&index=4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX4bTzGWi_s&list=OLAK5uy_klSsbEVrtrtUREjg2VKNfzpLGZqkYaRjw&index=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ui6LiqeF_M&list=OLAK5uy_klSsbEVrtrtUREjg2VKNfzpLGZqkYaRjw&index=9" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ui6LiqeF_M&list=OLAK5uy_klSsbEVrtrtUREjg2VKNfzpLGZqkYaRjw&index=9


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 13:57
How about Aeternam? I think this is just what you're looking for:

MaYan, Mark Jansen from Epica's side project takes it up a level from Epica in pretension:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba2DyMTl6XM&list=OLAK5uy_kwyGFqKlaxs_B7UVF9H8gFUNMWRThADls" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba2DyMTl6XM&list=OLAK5uy_kwyGFqKlaxs_B7UVF9H8gFUNMWRThADls

How could I forget Amaseffer? This is about as lush and pompous as it gets! My number one recommendation here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJMbmjFVdTY&list=OLAK5uy_nmtGYHI37NA2ke2u7W8_BG8OE_xP_FrZo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJMbmjFVdTY&list=OLAK5uy_nmtGYHI37NA2ke2u7W8_BG8OE_xP_FrZo

This single by ERSEDU, an up and coming band from Ukraine is a high recommendation. They were supposed to "re"-debut this year, but due to some, ahem, geopolitical issues, that doesn't seem plausible now, unfortunately:
The rest of the EP is worth checking out, but it's not as grandiose as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8PS858CTaA&list=OLAK5uy_nXIKMiK6K5y6k5G3oIUsFR_DG0fkzgnyg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tJZGzSZqtY&list=PLHTo__bpnlYXCRGx4lKPiNjTOv2bhzYjp&index=0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8PS858CTaA&list=OLAK5uy_nXIKMiK6K5y6k5G3oIUsFR_DG0fkzgnyg" rel="nofollow -

There's Winterhorde, too. One of my absolute favorite albums ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDDzRCsDG4&list=OLAK5uy_mwBVjfeP3S4AKsJdpWKIoRpgd_YzvoRXs&index=1" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDDzRCsDG4&list=OLAK5uy_mwBVjfeP3S4AKsJdpWKIoRpgd_YzvoRXs&index=1

Fleshgod Apocalypse?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqA6BetCzYQ&list=OLAK5uy_n_e0KPeQK9a1zAOdzF1TvPvOU3D8PHXCc&index=1" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqA6BetCzYQ&list=OLAK5uy_n_e0KPeQK9a1zAOdzF1TvPvOU3D8PHXCc&index=1
Too bad it's f**king brickwalled lol

That should do it for now :)


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 15:13
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.

Maybe I choose unwisely my words. All those bands are really good... They are just not the kind of greater than life, ambitious music that I seek. The albums I mentioned evoque some response that I only get from Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner... I don't know how to explain it. 


What you want is symphonic death metal, industrial death metal (the two make up atmospheric death metal), and atmospheric sludge metal.

Try Septicflesh, the Monolith Deathcult, and Neurosis, respectively.

In the post above, ERSEDU and Fleshgod Apocalypse are the best recs.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 23:59
Thanks, bardberic, I'm slowly listening to your recommendations. I wasn't expecting to hear microtonalism and Sephardic influences in symphonic metal. I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised. One day I must open a thread about microtonalist prog. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 06 2022 at 01:09



Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 06 2022 at 07:05
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Thanks, bardberic, I'm slowly listening to your recommendations. I wasn't expecting to hear microtonalism and Sephardic influences in symphonic metal. I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised. One day I must open a thread about microtonalist prog.†


Well it's more Mizrachi than Sephardic, but yes.

In any case let's also try Diablo Swing Orchestra. It's a bit of a different approach but still "truly symphonic:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe257tS-1d4&list=PLrt9SDnUYUmKE7-BXQGnh9zNDObWP4aNq&index=1" rel="nofollow - https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe257tS-1d4&list=PLrt9SDnUYUmKE7-BXQGnh9zNDObWP4aNq&index=1

If you liked that there's that one f**king Accented Sevenfold song lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjBCT2Lc94" rel="nofollow - A Little Piece of Heaven

This is not for what you're looking (which is why I'm not embedding it), but this performance by Unlucky Morpheus is worth checking out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hZDzJp9Pc&list=PL-bojOzoPiEg1GibwOkErPmdpxLuRLJrS&index=1" rel="nofollow - Quadratum

I also don't know how I managed to miss X Japan's Art of Life; this is the holy grail of for what you're looking!:


I'm stopping it here because Art of Life is the peak of "truly symphonic metal." It does not get better than that lmao



(I'll probably add more later lol)


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 06 2022 at 17:36
Okay I found one more that I think you'll love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpK8v0SXcfE&list=OLAK5uy_mvMwAcaUv1pB4Uc3p4nwDuT--_K0Mv_7I" rel="nofollow - Waltari and the Avanti Symphony Orchestra


You'll find lots of good stuff https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:all,death%2dmetal,symphonic%2dmetal/deweight:live,archival,soundtrack/" rel="nofollow - here.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 06 2022 at 20:08
I have a Rhapsody of Fire album that is pretty symphonic sounding. What about Angra?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 08 2022 at 09:09
ColdWorld
This German atmospheric black metal band has symphonic elements. Smile
https://coldworldofficial.bandcamp.com/album/the-stars-are-dead-now" rel="nofollow - https://coldworldofficial.bandcamp.com/album/the-stars-are-dead-now


Posted By: SambaTisst
Date Posted: November 14 2022 at 00:17
It must be this, bal sagoth:
%20" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Su7AgQZzl0&feature=share


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 01:06
You might enjoy this
https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-other-side-of-life" rel="nofollow - https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-other-side-of-life

https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/music" rel="nofollow - https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/music


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 01:59
Yet another topic on what is or what isnít. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples youíll never get a true definition of who is or who isnít considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isnít a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isnít in. Your own choices.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 02:02
Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Yet another topic on what is or what isnít. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples youíll never get a true definition of who is or who isnít considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isnít a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isnít in. Your own choices.

The OP was not trying to define or redefine what symphonic metal is, he just wanted to hear some music like the bands he mentioned in his initial post, that's all. 

Yes, the thread title is pretty terrible, but the purpose of the thread is more than fine. Smile


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 23:54
See if you can find the song "Ulice_Rozpaczy" by Polish band Panzerfaust.  It might be in here.

https://panzerfaust.bandcamp.com/music" rel="nofollow - https://panzerfaust.bandcamp.com/music

(My only concern is that they may be a neo-Nazi band!  I don't speak Polish).


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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 01:13
Sorry for not answering. Lately, the page is always down for me. This is the first time I'm able to enter in a few days. 

I have discovered this recently, I think that it is very good:



Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Yet another topic on what is or what isnít. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples youíll never get a true definition of who is or who isnít considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isnít a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isnít in. Your own choices.

The OP was not trying to define or redefine what symphonic metal is, he just wanted to hear some music like the bands he mentioned in his initial post, that's all. 

Yes, the thread title is pretty terrible, but the purpose of the thread is more than fine. Smile

Sorry, English is not my first language and sometimes I lack subtlety. What title do you recommend? 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 01:23
Symphonic Metal Playlist

Aesma Daeva (United States)
After Forever (Netherlands)
Amberian Dawn (Finland) 
Apocalyptica (Finland)
Autumn (Netherlands)
Avantasia (Germany)
Coronatus (Germany)
Delain (Netherlands)
Diabulus in Musica (Spain)
Edenbridge (Austria)
Epica (Netherlands)
Imperia (Multi-National)
Kamelot (United States)
Kingfisher Sky (Netherlands)
Leaves' Eyes (Norway)
Lunatica (Switzerland)
Nightwish (Finland)
Rhapsody of Fire (Italy)
Serenity (Austria)
Sirenia (Norway)
Therion (Sweden)
Tristania (Norway)
Visions of Atlantis (Austria)
Within Temptation (Netherlands)
Xandria (Germany)


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 01:53
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Sorry, English is not my first language and sometimes I lack subtlety. What title do you recommend? 

English is not my first language either. 
It seems you want to listen to metal with symphonic elements but it does not mean the usual symphonic metal (operatic metal) sound. 

I wasn't trying to make you change your thread title, I understand what you want to do hear, I even suggested some bands. 
If you say "true symphonic metal', it implies that the one already existing is not right, incorrect, something wrong with it, not symphonic at all, and so on. 

Carry on, if I discover a band that fits your OP description, I'll post it here. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 14:26

Thanks, bardberic, AEternam or Fleshgod Apocalypse are the two things I'm enjoying the most. Although I would like for metal to have more dynamic productions!

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

You might enjoy this
https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-other-side-of-life" rel="nofollow - https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-other-side-of-life

https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/music" rel="nofollow - https://lunametal.bandcamp.com/music

Great compositions, and totally in line with what I'm looking for. But the orchestration is a little bit too MIDI for my tastes. 

PD: I edited the OP to more clearly show what kind of music I'm after. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 00:26


This is one of the craziest, most avant-garde, creative things I have ever listened to. 

And this is not far behind:



Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 00:40
Okay first of all, I'm a native English speaker and the last title was better. Maybe "truly symphonic metal," or" metal that is actually symphonic" would be better -- it's tounge-in-cheek. It's fine.

It seems, however, that you're not looking for "truly symphonic metal," rather "epic progressive metal that is not cheesy," which I think is the best title

Let's put this to the test... What do you think of LŲr:
https://halloflor.bandcamp.com/album/in-forgotten-sleep" rel="nofollow - https://halloflor.bandcamp.com/album/in-forgotten-sleep

or Ne Obliscaris:
https://neobliviscaris.bandcamp.com/album/portal-of-i" rel="nofollow - https://neobliviscaris.bandcamp.com/album/portal-of-i

They're not symphonic per say (hence why I didn't embed it) but I think you'll love it anyway.

If you like this, well, let's just say we're going to have a field day my friend. You and I.

Regarding the production of Aeternam, yeah I hate it. It's hard to listen to the last song because it's so noisy. Really bad with there imo. But it still beats Fledhgod Apocalypse's (FGA) brickwall. Imo, Wilderun's Epigone is poorly produced, too. It seems this genre is very hard to produce well, unfortunately. Hopefully it gets better as it becomes more popular.

In any case, for some more "truly symphonic metal" that is not "epic progressive metal that is not cheesy," I'm going to embed a single from Epica's newest album. It's a collab with FGA:


Ignoring Simone's melodic operatic, and rather boring soprano vocals on here, this is what FGA would sound like (kind of) if they didn't f**king brickwall their music. See how awesome it is when you can actually make out what's going on? The song "Death is not the End" is good, too. Epica's newest album Omega is pretty good, too this regard, if you don't mind the pop-rock approach as they usually take (it seems that's why you don't like "operatic metal"). Give the first three tracks a listen on that one

I don't think you'll like it, but let's try Ex Libris's Anastasia Romanov, as well. It's more "Epican," but much more progressive. This is part of a trilogy of EPs along with Anne Boleyn and Anne Frank, the latter of which is also really symphonic and good, but the former... not so much:



I also posted this in your "maximalist" post from earlier, but it's totally relevant here, too:



I don't know how much you like doom metal but here is The Otolith. They're more "truly orchestral metal" than "truly symphonic metal," but I think they're great:



I'll give more "Epic Progressive Metal that is not Cheesy" later on if you like LŲr and Ne Oblivisvaris and I'll try to keep them, too


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 09:39
I love Ne Obliviscaris. Particularly the first and the second album. From LŲr I remember listening Edge of Eternity, and I thought that it was kind of not that interesting. This one, though, it is pretty amazing, maybe I should give another chance to the other one. They kind of remind me to this:  https://iomair.bandcamp.com/album/fishing-for-an-apparition" rel="nofollow - https://iomair.bandcamp.com/album/fishing-for-an-apparition

That last thing rocks hard. I was listening to Epica's Omega the other day, but it wasn't my thing particularly. I will listen the rest. I already listened to Imperial Circus Dead Decadence when you posted it in the other thread, but I don't remember them. 

This is very unique and peculiar. Maybe it is debatable whether they are symphonic or not, but they are surely operistic. 


The production is, sadly, incredibly muddy and lacking range and subtlety. Which seems to be a given with metal albums. 

Quote Analyzed: Schizoid Lloyd / The Last Note In God's Magnum Opus
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DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR6        0.00 dB    -8.44 dB      5:28 01-Suicide Penguin
DR6        0.00 dB    -8.29 dB      2:59 02-Christmas Devil
DR6        0.00 dB    -8.34 dB      4:35 03-Avalanche Riders
DR6        0.00 dB    -9.03 dB      7:39 04-Misanthrope Puppet
DR10       0.00 dB   -14.78 dB      4:18 05-Film Noir Hero
DR6        0.00 dB    -8.42 dB      5:11 06-Amphibian Seer
DR7        0.00 dB    -8.42 dB      3:47 07-Cave Painter
DR6        0.00 dB    -9.34 dB      7:43 08-Chicken Wing Swans
DR7        0.00 dB   -10.65 dB      9:58 09-Citizen Herd
DR10       0.00 dB   -13.79 dB      5:44 10-Prodigal Son
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Number of tracks:  10
Official DR value: DR7

Completely idiotic production. 

This sound more amateur and less clear, it was probably done with way less resources, but compare the dynamic range:

http://spectrallore.bandcamp.com/album/spectral-lore-nachtreich-the-quivering-lights" rel="nofollow - https://spectrallore.bandcamp.com/album/spectral-lore-nachtreich-the-quivering-lights

Quote --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: Nachtreich / The Quivering Lights (1-3)
          Spectral Lore / The Quivering Lights (4-6)
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DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR9        0.00 dB   -14.63 dB      6:42 01-Lights
DR14      -2.90 dB   -22.31 dB      5:37 03-Greyness
DR9        0.00 dB   -12.26 dB      6:57 01-Ghost Lights
DR11       0.00 dB   -14.74 dB      8:17 02-Quivering
DR11       0.00 dB   -14.28 dB     11:30 02-Vanishing
DR15      -0.77 dB   -20.73 dB      6:29 03-Reflection
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Number of tracks:  6
Official DR value: DR12




Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 11:08
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I love Ne Obliviscaris. Particularly the first and the second album. From LŲr I remember listening†Edge of Eternity, and I thought that it was kind of not that interesting. This one, though, it is pretty amazing, maybe I should give another chance to the other one. They kind of remind me to this:† https://iomair.bandcamp.com/album/fishing-for-an-apparition" rel="nofollow - https://iomair.bandcamp.com/album/fishing-for-an-apparition

That last thing rocks hard. I was listening to Epica's Omega the other day, but it wasn't my thing particularly. I will listen the rest. I already listened to Imperial Circus Dead Decadence when you posted it in the other thread, but I don't remember them.†




Well Iomair was going to be my next recommendation anyway. In Forgotten is a lot more interesting than Edge of Eternity, honestly, I think.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 23 2022 at 01:02
  http://threadsoffate.bandcamp.com/album/the-cold-embrace-of-the-light" rel="nofollow - https://threadsoffate.bandcamp.com/album/the-cold-embrace-of-the-light

Very cheesy. But it is good cheese, I promise. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 25 2022 at 04:35

Djent is some kind of abhorrent plague for metal, but this is kind of cool. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 25 2022 at 09:02
One of the tracks has the same name as my old band:



Again and sadly, brickwalled; but the music is certainly brutal and fresh. 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 25 2022 at 13:34
Kauan
https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2" rel="nofollow - https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2



Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: November 26 2022 at 03:02
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Kauan
https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2" rel="nofollow - https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2


This is much better than Ice Fleet. Which I listened to the other day. 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 26 2022 at 03:25
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Kauan
https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2" rel="nofollow - https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2


This is much better than Ice Fleet. Which I listened to the other day. 

Thumbs Up


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: December 03 2022 at 04:24
Okay here's a classic. It may not be atmospheric or deathy/blacky for which you seem to be looking, and it's clearly an early 2000s MIDI program instead of a "true" symphony, but here's:

Symphony X - The Odyssey



Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: December 03 2022 at 08:33
I was listening to Symphony X a couple of days ago.

This is very peculiar. Like Bubblemath doing metal:

http://artificialsilenceband.com/album/negative-space" rel="nofollow - https://artificialsilenceband.com/album/negative-space

The symphonic elements appear more in the form of vocal harmonies than orchestral instrumentation. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: December 03 2022 at 09:13
By the way; Nathanael Larochette, the mastermind behind Musk Ox, which is a band I love and I listen regularly when studying, has a project that does kind of a symphonic, folk metal. The sound is very unique and peculiar, you may be interested in listening to it:

http://thenightwatch.bandcamp.com/album/an-embarrassment-of-riches" rel="nofollow - https://thenightwatch.bandcamp.com/album/an-embarrassment-of-riches


Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: December 04 2022 at 04:10
Maybe two or three songs of Savatage - Dead Winter Dead (USA/1995).

And I will try to find more bands from my "progressive" symphonic metal collection. Wink

-Dreams Of Sanity: Masquerade (Austria).

-Orphaned Land: Mabool ... (Israel).


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: December 27 2022 at 05:13
Not very prominent, but some subtle symphonic elements all over this one; for example, in the second track:



I'm looking after their 2023 release. 



French people make the most adventurous music for some reason. 

This, from the USA, also deserves a mention:




Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: January 06 2023 at 09:41
I just found these guys, Odious. I think you'll like them:
http://odiousband.bandcamp.com/album/skin-age" rel="nofollow - http://odiousband.bandcamp.com/album/skin-age


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: January 06 2023 at 11:26
Really cool. And the arranger is Χρήστος Αντωνίου, the guy from Septicflesh. Pretty insane release. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: January 09 2023 at 02:16
Another set of fabulous compositions with little too much compression:

https://cydemind.bandcamp.com/album/the-descent" rel="nofollow - http://cydemind.bandcamp.com/album/the-descent


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: January 09 2023 at 18:34
I mean yeah talk about a well engineered album. Not common in this genre.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: January 14 2023 at 05:07
The symphonic elements come from the use of keyboards, synths and choruses in both cases, but I still believe that are pretty good. No bombastic orchestras here, sadly, because they will fit perfectly with the music.

Darkwater:  https://ulteriumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/human" rel="nofollow - https://ulteriumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/human
Acolyte: https:// acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy" rel="nofollow -   https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy" rel="nofollow - https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 14 2023 at 05:10
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

The symphonic elements come frome the use of keyboards, synths and choruses in both cases, but I still believe that are pretty good. No bombastic orchestras here, sadly, because they will fit perfectly with the music.

Darkwater:  https://ulteriumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/human" rel="nofollow - https://ulteriumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/human
Acolyte: https:// acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy" rel="nofollow -  https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy

Darkwater is a great band, I need to give them another listen soon. 

Never heard of Acolyte and the link above does not work for me. 
edit: found their bandcamp. Thanks for pointing them out.
https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 14 2023 at 05:33
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


Darkwater is a great band, I need to give them another listen soon. 


Loved their debut when it came out; sat very well alongside Circus Maximus, Andremeda & Seventh Wonder back in the late noughties


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: January 14 2023 at 07:33
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

The symphonic elements come frome the use of keyboards, synths and choruses in both cases, but I still believe that are pretty good. No bombastic orchestras here, sadly, because they will fit perfectly with the music.

Darkwater:  https://ulteriumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/human" rel="nofollow - https://ulteriumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/human
Acolyte: https:// acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy" rel="nofollow -  https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/album/entropy

Darkwater is a great band, I need to give them another listen soon. 

Never heard of Acolyte and the link above does not work for me. 
edit: found their bandcamp. Thanks for pointing them out.
https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://acolyteband.bandcamp.com/

I don't know how I messed up the link. Thanks for pointing it out. It should work now. 

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


Darkwater is a great band, I need to give them another listen soon. 


Loved their debut when it came out; sat very well alongside Circus Maximus, Andremeda & Seventh Wonder back in the late noughties

The album of Threads of Fate that I shared in this thread always reminds me to Extension of the Wish by Andromeda. 

http://threadsoffate.bandcamp.com/album/the-cold-embrace-of-the-light" rel="nofollow - https://threadsoffate.bandcamp.com/album/the-cold-embrace-of-the-light


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: January 14 2023 at 08:07
 
Why are Italians and French always doing fantastic music and here in Spain it's so hard to find even a single band worth of your time?



Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: January 15 2023 at 13:55
The last song is straight up plagiarism of the Game of Thrones theme, but the album is pretty cool overall:

http://empyrium.bandcamp.com/album/ber-den-sternen" rel="nofollow - https://empyrium.bandcamp.com/album/ber-den-sternen


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 11:53
The first track from this is insane, I wish the rest of the album developed more in that vein:

http://dimhav.bandcamp.com/album/the-boreal-flame" rel="nofollow - https://dimhav.bandcamp.com/album/the-boreal-flame

Btw, @bardberic, thanks for recommending MaYan, I have been digging their last album!


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: March 09 2023 at 08:32
Yeah I may attempt to submit MaYaN for review in the progarchives lol

The more I listen to them the more I believe they could qualify as progressive metal.

I have more recommendations, too, but I need to backtrack my recently listened-to albums and pick out the "truly symphonic" ones, of which I have a few. I'll post them in a few days or so... maybe.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 14 2023 at 05:08
Some proto-symphonic metal from a time where our beloved string synths sounded as unrealistic as possible. 








Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 14 2023 at 05:12
^ I've onlly heard of the first band, Power of Omens and it's a quite good progressive metal band, reminds me of Fates Warning and a more technical Queensryche. 

I will try and listen to the other two bands, when time allows it. Smile


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 14 2023 at 05:34
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've onlly heard of the first band, Power of Omens and it's a quite good progressive metal band, reminds me of Fates Warning and a more technical Queensryche. 

I will try and listen to the other two bands, when time allows it. Smile

I have added some more. I hope you enjoy them. 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 14 2023 at 06:05
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've onlly heard of the first band, Power of Omens and it's a quite good progressive metal band, reminds me of Fates Warning and a more technical Queensryche. 

I will try and listen to the other two bands, when time allows it. Smile

I have added some more. I hope you enjoy them. 

I know Winds and Psychotic waltz. Smile


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 17 2023 at 08:54
Progressive metal with some symphonic elements. I have really enjoyed this short album:


http://aeonzen.bandcamp.com/album/transversal" rel="nofollow - https://aeonzen.bandcamp.com/album/transversal


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 17 2023 at 16:59
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

See if you can find the song "Ulice_Rozpaczy" by Polish band Panzerfaust.  It might be in here.

https://panzerfaust.bandcamp.com/music" rel="nofollow - https://panzerfaust.bandcamp.com/music

(My only concern is that they may be a neo-Nazi band!  I don't speak Polish).

I'm just listening to The Suns of Perdition - Chapter III: The Astral Drain and, man, is this thing infernal. Thanks again for the recommendation. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 23 2023 at 11:48
This must be one of the weirdest albums I have ever listened in this genre:

http://circleofillusion.bandcamp.com/album/jeremias-foreshadow-of-forgotten-realms" rel="nofollow - https://circleofillusion.bandcamp.com/album/jeremias-foreshadow-of-forgotten-realms


Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: March 23 2023 at 11:52
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

This must be one of the weirdest albums I have ever listened in this genre:

http://circleofillusion.bandcamp.com/album/jeremias-foreshadow-of-forgotten-realms" rel="nofollow - https://circleofillusion.bandcamp.com/album/jeremias-foreshadow-of-forgotten-realms

Great and adventurous album. One of my favourites from that year.

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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 11:28
This is basically madness:

http://liturgy.bandcamp.com/album/93696" rel="nofollow - https://liturgy.bandcamp.com/album/93696


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: April 17 2023 at 09:05
More from Greece. First, they gave us the culture, now they give us the metal:

http://thydarkenedshade.bandcamp.com/album/liber-lvcifer-ii-mahapralaya" rel="nofollow - https://thydarkenedshade.bandcamp.com/album/liber-lvcifer-ii-mahapralaya


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: April 20 2023 at 01:15
I love the production of this album. 

http://peaceville.bandcamp.com/album/black-medium-current" rel="nofollow - https://peaceville.bandcamp.com/album/black-medium-current

Very ecclectic, very original, with a great dynamic range, but... it is a shame that the music doesn't flow so smoothly. I don't think that the distinct parts of the composition really work together to give birth to a coherent whole. 

Still, it deserves a listen just for its ambition alone. I wish their next proyect is better! 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: April 22 2023 at 05:39
Good dynamic range, extremely avant-garde, philosophically infused, this is everything I want in my symphonic metal:

http://lychgate.bandcamp.com/album/an-antidote-for-the-glass-pill-2" rel="nofollow - https://lychgate.bandcamp.com/album/an-antidote-for-the-glass-pill-2


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: April 22 2023 at 07:46
Good dynamic range you say?
Edit: Oh... too bad it's black metal


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: April 22 2023 at 08:07
Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Good dynamic range you say?
Edit: Oh... too bad it's black metal

Hahaha, sorry about that, I have been listening to a lot of symphonic black metal as of late. I know that it is not for everybody. 

The dynamic range of this one is also not the worst, just mediocre, and the black metal influences are somewhat drowned by the progressive metal influences and the death metal influences. I think that it is a very enjoyable work:

http://farbeyond.bandcamp.com/album/a-frozen-flame-of-ice" rel="nofollow - https://farbeyond.bandcamp.com/album/a-frozen-flame-of-ice

The dynamic range of this one is just terrible, but the compositions are top-notch; at any rate, the black metal influence is very prevalent and you won't like it if you are not into that:

http://candlelightrecordsuk.bandcamp.com/album/omega-arcane" rel="nofollow - https://candlelightrecordsuk.bandcamp.com/album/omega-arcane



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 01 2023 at 10:48
New album from Fires In the Distance may be a fit here. Smile
https://firesinthedistance.com/album/air-not-meant-for-us" rel="nofollow - https://firesinthedistance.com/album/air-not-meant-for-us


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 00:17
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

New album from Fires In the Distance may be a fit here. Smile
https://firesinthedistance.com/album/air-not-meant-for-us" rel="nofollow - https://firesinthedistance.com/album/air-not-meant-for-us

It surely is a fit here, thank you. Very enjoyable album. I was very surprised by the use of arpeggiators. 

Weird Chinese symphonic metal for the adventurous only:

http://retributioncn.bandcamp.com/album/tales-of-pyhamis-land" rel="nofollow - https://retributioncn.bandcamp.com/album/tales-of-pyhamis-land


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 14:51
Another good dose of pure madness: 

http://anareta.bandcamp.com/album/fear-not" rel="nofollow - https://anareta.bandcamp.com/album/fear-not


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 11 2023 at 06:21
  http://wachenfeldt.bandcamp.com/album/faustian-reawakening-2" rel="nofollow - https://wachenfeldt.bandcamp.com/album/faustian-reawakening-2

Very interesting effort. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 18 2023 at 23:28
Very pleasant (on my second listening I actually realized that this is not merely pleasant, but extraordinary), everything was done by one guy:



Also, the album can be downloaded for free:

http://nahtram.bandcamp.com/album/forest-of-eternal-dawn" rel="nofollow - https://nahtram.bandcamp.com/album/forest-of-eternal-dawn

Very recommended. One hidden jewel of this genre for sure. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 26 2023 at 23:55
Incredibly weird/creative clean, meditative tech with chamber music elements and an EXCELLENT dynamic range:

http://listen.20buckspin.com/album/shambhallic-vibrations" rel="nofollow - https://listen.20buckspin.com/album/shambhallic-vibrations

DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR9       -0.11 dB   -11.35 dB      1:38 01-Intro (Shambhallic Vibrations)
DR9       -0.11 dB   -10.27 dB      6:39 02-Spirit Body and the Seeing Self
DR10      -3.03 dB   -17.28 dB      0:49 03-Interlude (Ancient Sage)
DR9       -0.11 dB   -10.15 dB      6:54 04-The Bodhi Tree
DR9       -0.11 dB   -11.52 dB     12:53 05-III. Crystalline Blessed Light Flows... From Violet Mountains Into Lunar Chambers

The mastering is so good I want to cry. If only all metal was this well produced... 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: June 02 2023 at 05:05
Some sort of mix of Jute Gyte + Maria Schneider + Kayo Dot. 

http://votsband.bandcamp.com/album/dance-you-monster-to-my-soft-song" rel="nofollow - https://votsband.bandcamp.com/album/dance-you-monster-to-my-soft-song


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: June 02 2023 at 10:28
Not really symphonic imo, but it's weird because 20BuckSpin isn't known to have well produced albums. They tend to be brickwalled. Good for them.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: June 02 2023 at 14:00
Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Not really symphonic imo, but it's weird because 20BuckSpin isn't known to have well produced albums. They tend to be brickwalled. Good for them.

Yes, not really symphonic. More like violin and jazz infused. But it is somewhat close if we have a loose definition. Like... No every symphonic prog album has an orchestra. 

But, fair enough. 


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 07 2023 at 10:23
weird that this was never mentioned here:



A true masterpiece of Symphonic Doom, the 32-min long title track is especially stunning


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 10 2023 at 02:05
One of my all time favorite progressive symphonic/orchestral albums.

%3ca%20href=" rel="nofollow -   http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8277" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8277


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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: June 11 2023 at 11:07
Great recommendations, thank you Prog-jester and MikeEnRegalia. 


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 00:58
Another gem, maybe more experimental/avant-garde than symphonic/orchestral, but still quite the latter: Esc by Zierler (Beyond Twilight): https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52101" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52101

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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 05:52
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Another gem, maybe more experimental/avant-garde than symphonic/orchestral, but still quite the latter: Esc by Zierler (Beyond Twilight): https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52101" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52101

Some parts are really cheesy, but I'm really digging the most avant-garde ones. Thank you again! 


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 05:55
I like those cheesy parts, at least to me they are not all that cheesy and by means of contrast they make the avant-garde elements work better ...

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 05:58
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I like those cheesy parts, at least to me they are not all that cheesy and by means of contrast they make the avant-garde elements work better ...

I wouldn't call their music cheesy, or avant-garde, it is pretty original, technical progressive metal with some symphonic elements I guess. Good album, recommended! Smile


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 06:19
^ Yes, it's more experimental than avant-garde. I wonder how it sounds to someone who hasn't listened to so much avant/experimental stuff as we have ;-) 

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 06:21
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Yes, it's more experimental than avant-garde. I wonder how it sounds to someone who hasn't listened to so much avant/experimental stuff as we have ;-) 

Depends, some people might enjoy it (they welcome a challenge), some might reject it altogether (never go beyond their comfort zone). Smile


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 06:45
^ Of course! I just sometimes wonder how I felt in the early 2000s when I began listening to the more experimental/avant type music. I didn't know what it was or how to call it. Fast forward to today, it's only three in the afternoon, but I've already listened to more than ten new albums of a broad range of styles, mostly metal, but also (dark) folk and prog rock. My neurons are in a completely different state than they were twenty years ago ...

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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: June 13 2023 at 00:10
Most people I know regard the music I listen to as noise. For the uninitiated, just something like Present or Thinking Plague is plain torture. Imagine what they think when I'm listening to metal. 

Here in Spain there is no culture of difficult music. Even listening to something more tame like Mahavishnu Orchestra or All Traps on Earth will make people frown at you. 

I have never been able of playing something like Gojira or Death without having everyone complaining. Even if there was people who were into "metal", they weren't able to go beyond the likes of Slipknot; for them, something like The Sound of Perseverance was "too complex" and "songs sang by a giant rat". 


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2023 at 01:33
Back in the 2000s I remember that I didn't like growling vocals at all. But through Audiogalaxy (an early file sharing platform) I got exposed to Opeth. Luckily for me I decided to keep listening to these tracks, because the music was so awesome. I tolerated the "grating" experience of the vocals. Just like people can get into eating broccoli when it is accompanied by a creamy sauce, I got into harsh vocals through the jazzy/symphonic music that Opeth combined them with.

TLDR: Difficult music is an acquired taste. Takes some time getting used to. And when you have become used to it, you can actually explore nuances in the music, tell the good from the bad, while to the uninitiated it's all just dreadful noise.


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Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: July 08 2023 at 15:34
@edefakiel

If I understood correctly you are looking for truly epic metal that is symphonic more in a postromantic and modern classical way (not the usual neoclassical way). I'm not very familiar with this kind of bands but this comes to mind:

Mekong Delta - Interludium


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: July 10 2023 at 08:58
Originally posted by terramystic terramystic wrote:

@edefakiel

If I understood correctly you are looking for truly epic metal that is symphonic more in a postromantic and modern classical way (not the usual neoclassical way). I'm not very familiar with this kind of bands but this comes to mind:

Mekong Delta - Interludium

You must be absolutely right, because I love the song that you shared. Weird that I never knew about this band before. Great recommendation, thank you. 


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: July 13 2023 at 09:47
I was completely blown away by this album, it is very progressive and avant-garde. Like a cinematic version of the most Zornian and demented Mr. Bungle. 

http://sethangerer.bandcamp.com/album/multiple-tonality-disorder" rel="nofollow - https://sethangerer.bandcamp.com/album/multiple-tonality-disorder

It sounds very, very fresh and unique. 

I think that you may dig the klezmer/eastern/Diablo Swing Orchestra influences, bardberic. 


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: July 13 2023 at 18:22
I can't believe I forgot to link this earlier, but Twilight Force - I listened to them on release day this past January. It's the cheesiest album ever made lmao but that's what makes it so much fun, and without the cheese, it wouldn't be the most epic album from this year so far.

It's clearly MIDI, but highly symphonic nevertheless, if at least choral. And the Caribbean island elevator music breakdown just makes it that much better.



https://twilightforceofficial.bandcamp.com/album/at-the-heart-of-wintervale


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: July 13 2023 at 18:37
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I was completely blown away by this album, it is very progressive and avant-garde. Like a cinematic version of the most Zornian and demented Mr. Bungle.†

http://sethangerer.bandcamp.com/album/multiple-tonality-disorder" rel="nofollow - https://sethangerer.bandcamp.com/album/multiple-tonality-disorder

It sounds very, very fresh and unique.†

I think that you may dig the klezmer/eastern/Diablo Swing Orchestra influences, bardberic.†




I agree this sounds like something out of Mike Patton's repertoire, although it is a bit too electronic for me. While it's definitely an avant-garde epic cinematic project, I don't really see how this is metal. While I appreciate the orientalism, it isn't really my cup of tea, unfortunately.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 00:09
Yes, I listened to At the Heart of Wintervale when it came out. They are good musicians, but, as you said, maybe a little bit too cheesy for me. I will listen to them again, in case I missed something. 

Regarding Seth Angerer. Don't you think that his music is metal? I thought that I might be crazy, since for me it clearly sounded as such, so I searched for it in various places

Here in Progarchives, Seth appears as Progressive Metal:  https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10501" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10501

In Rate Your Music, the genres of the album are Progressive Metal, Symphonic Metal, Avant-Garde Metal, Djent, Cinematic Classical, Jazz Fusion:  http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/seth-angerer/multiple-tonality-disorder/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/seth-angerer/multiple-tonality-disorder/

In Last.fm the tags of the album are progressive metal, progressive, symphonic metal, djent:  http://www.last.fm/es/music/Seth+Angerer/Multiple+Tonality+Disorder" rel="nofollow - https://www.last.fm/es/music/Seth+Angerer/Multiple+Tonality+Disorder

Obviously, this doesn't settle the matter. But, for me personally, the primary genre would be Avant-Garde Metal and the secondary one Symphonic Metal. 


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 02:25
^ Listening to Seth Angerer for the first time - both symphonic and avant, resulting in the tag badge "Symphonic Progressive Avant-Garde Metal" at TYM.
https://tagyourmusic.org/releases/53921" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/releases/53921


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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 03:54
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Listening to Seth Angerer for the first time - both symphonic and avant, resulting in the tag badge "Symphonic Progressive Avant-Garde Metal" at TYM.
https://tagyourmusic.org/releases/53921" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/releases/53921

Oh, I hadn't thought of comparing it to Ziltoid. Good catch, Mike.


Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 21:54
Hard to get more symphonic than this: https://leschantsduhasard.bandcamp.com/album/livre-troisi-me" rel="nofollow - https://leschantsduhasard.bandcamp.com/album/livre-troisi-me

I feel like if I have been waiting for something like Chaint IV - Salve Regina for all my life.

Really interesting composer. The new album is also worth checking, although it is way more direct and less pompous, it slaps a lot harder and it is more conventionally metal. https://leschantsduhasard.bandcamp.com/album/hasard-malivore" rel="nofollow - https://leschantsduhasard.bandcamp.com/album/hasard-malivore


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: July 21 2023 at 14:02
Here's a new artist, Noah, I recently found on bandcamp. I doubtful that you'll like this artist, but depending on how much you like anime and JRPGs will determine how much you'll it: https://noah390.bandcamp.com/album/reawaken-the-mythology" rel="nofollow - https://noah390.bandcamp.com/album/reawaken-the-mythology






Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I was completely blown away by this album, it is very progressive and avant-garde. Like a cinematic version of the most Zornian and demented Mr. Bungle.†

http://sethangerer.bandcamp.com/album/multiple-tonality-disorder" rel="nofollow - https://sethangerer.bandcamp.com/album/multiple-tonality-disorder

It sounds very, very fresh and unique.†

I think that you may dig the klezmer/eastern/Diablo Swing Orchestra influences, bardberic.†




Okay so when I listen to music for a first time, I'll skim through parts of the album to see if it's something I would like, and in this case I missed the metal sections. So this album, just like the Noah I posted above, is only partially metal and partially electronic/cinematic music. I'm going through it again and now I hear the metal. I'm actually liking it a lot more this time, too. I guess I just wasn't in the right mood for it last time. It's actually kind of cool. I may give a full listen another time.



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