Larks' Tongues or Red
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Topic: Larks' Tongues or Red
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Larks' Tongues or Red
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 01:12
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I certainly don't use to make polls, but here's one, the David's way, and I have an idea about the most popular choice.  There you go! ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 01:19
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both are great ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 01:30
Both are great. 
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Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 02:07
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Both albums have a superlative level for me ------------- Héctor Enrique |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 04:12
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Red by a long way for me. I struggle with LTIA as much as I do with Discipline. I would like to feel the same 'love' for these as others do but it's just not happening (yet)
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 04:24
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I do like LTIA but Red is clearly better for me. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 04:28
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LYIA is great, as all of KC 69-74 studio albums are. But Red is just something very special to me |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 05:14
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Both are great, I'd give LTiA a slight edge but given the 'both are great' option I'm not voting against Red. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 05:33
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Both are great albums, but Red is just slightly better for me. Somehow my southeast bedroom became filled with edible multicolored tori and I can't find a bowl or a spoon. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 05:41
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Both make my ears happy. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 06:09
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Definitely Red. ------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*) |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 06:25
It took surely some years before I was ready for Larks' Tongues, but I can't imagine, I'll ever be ready for Discipline.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
richardh wrote:Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 06:31
| Larks is great, but they hadn't found the proper way to transfer their full potential to the record yet. Red, otherwise, sounds really fulfilled. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 06:35
^^Is there a preparation phase to be ready for something?  Both albums are good, each with a dud. Larks has Talking Drum and Red has Providence. Not great songs for me. So vote for both. |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 06:42
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The dramatic build of "The Talking Drum" followed by LTIA pt 2 is one of the best segments of music ever. David Cross' violin play is dramatic and emotional, and spars well with Fripp's guitar as counterpoint. But I also like Red, so I voted for both. ------------- "Instrumental music is an expression that words can never capture." -- Peter Baumann |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 06:57
You've started a thread about a similar subject, so you should know all about it by now. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: xhouse
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 09:03
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Well, both ARE great. But I think Red is the better if only because of Starless. ------------- Between Thought and Expression Lies True Perception |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 09:09
| King Crimson - Red |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 09:21
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I'm quite impressed, so many are so fond of Larks' Tongues, as there's some pretty heavy stuff there. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 11:27
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both are great, but can I vote for Lizard? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 11:36
 ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 12:40
That is Paul's way. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 12:44
| RED |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 13:01
| Of course they are both great but I voted LTIA to give it more votes. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 13:23
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Both are great, but Red is greater. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Euclid
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 13:58
| RED |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 14:19
Actually, red is greatest. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 14:51
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LTIA is my choice. One of the best rock LPs ever pressed. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 16:09
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Both equally, but I won't call either great, rather decent, so no vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 16:13
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Both are fantastic, but I have to go with Red for this one. One of my favorite albums, regardless of genre ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 16:18
| Red always seems to get the nod over LTIA just like Moonmadness always seems to get the nod over Snowgoose. Personally I don't get it since I like the so called "lesser" albums by both bands. Oh well. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 16:28
If those two are only decent to you, then what would be examples of great albums in a comparable style? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 17:05
both what else ? 
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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 17:26
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Both are good, but I find Red more listenable in the long run over the weirdness of Larks. It'd fun though to put together one album as a mixture of the two, such as: Easy Money Fallen Angel One More Red Nightmare Exiles Lark's Tongues II Starless
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 17:51
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LTIA has grown on me, I think i'll listen to it again after this, I've been wanting to listen to it for a while, both are great... but Red remains my favorite KC album ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat... |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 18:22
| I love both. I have very fond memories of both albums. Both are equal to me. |
Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 18:33
| Larks' Tongues. |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 19:11
| My two favorite albums by King Crimson. Both are great. I would rank Red just ahead of LTIA. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 20:26
| It's difficult to choose, both are great. I only wish they had still had the Larks line-up for Red. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 03:51
very good question ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 04:06
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By now, this poll looks like Red vs "both are great", which is not in accordance with what I had guessed as the most popular choice. I thought it would be "both are great", even I now can find Red to had been the best guess.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 04:49
Just to help you interpret... picking one of these doesn't mean that not both are great. The options don't mutually exclude each other. I don't say "LTIA is not great" by voting for Red. Personally, I'm not a fan of sitting on the fence options in such polls, so I will vote for the one I prefer as long as I clearly know which one it is, regardless of whether or not I think "both are great". (Neither will you normally find me voting for "other" in polls where this is offered, even if I could easily have others in mind.)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 06:10
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^ Still,
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 06:38
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Yep I voted for Red as it's among my "desert island discs", but of course thay are both great. I don't think anyone who treasures one of these - do not treasure the other as well. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 08:51
Anyway, that was quite brave and funny statement. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 08 2023 at 04:40
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Red is the best KC album ever to me |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 08 2023 at 07:22
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Both are great. I cannot choose one over the other; that is why I'm lousy in rating (which I don't, actually) and ranking albums. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 02:10
Are there any? I have to admin that both albums are ground breaking and genuine, but they just fail to bring me in a state of praise on the edge of worship. Some tracks I really like, but others leave me totally cold. Maybe Boojieboy's suggestion for a compilation is not that bad, though my choices may be different. The only example of an album track (not the entire album) I can think of is UK's Carrying No Cross (somewhat similar to Starless: same length, same song structure, same John Wetton, but different instrumentation), which makes even Starless (arguably the best of the bunch) sound like an early draft version in my ears.
In this thread it surely is
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Posted By: Van Jackson
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:17
| Larks' Tongues in Aspic. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 11 2023 at 02:48
I have to admit, if looking at these two albums as multiart, I'm not very fascinated by the lyrics or the cover art. They're more like decent, I'd say. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 13 2023 at 17:30
This is not my view of these two albums. I'd say, the difference is that Larks' Tongues is more influenced by avant-garde music, but it works best for me when listening to side 2 first. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Van Jackson
Date Posted: November 13 2023 at 17:48
This is how I feel. Larks' Tongues represents a sort of peak for KC for me personally. It has that avant flair that I so desperately seek and enjoy.
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Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: December 28 2023 at 01:53
| Red |
Posted By: Boi_da_boi_124
Date Posted: December 28 2023 at 22:39
| I think Red is overrated, but both are great |