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One summer night I called Brett Kull on a whim, and he spoke to me for over an hour like I was an old friend, answering any questions I had and sharing cool meanings behind various songs.

(For example, "Headright" is about the movie Bridge to Terabithia)

One of my favorite bands, so this is great news.

We have about 13 days left to fund the release. We are around 350 supporters so fay. If we get 1000 we'll be good to go and cover all the expenses.

If you have the extra money and want to get the music BEFORE the official release date in March - head over to our http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/selbyviews/echolyn-timesilentradio-ii-and-timesilentradio-vii?ref=user_menu" rel="nofollow - Kickstarter page and pre order either the digital downloads of the albums or grab Limited signed CDs of the music. 

Here's a vid of Chris talking about the project:

Thanks 

Brett

Now, Chris, Ray and I are flying to Nashville to finalize the mixes in person at Glenn's studio - Skylight Studio – this week. Glenn and I will be mastering the songs as well early next week. 

Brett

Brett

I was going to share this for only backers of our KickStarter campaign but wanted to instead post it – to perhaps get more interest in funding our new albums. We have till November 23rd to make the 1000 supporters!

Hi,

Which is really sad, and in many ways speaks for the care and attention of "fans" on the Internet ... like there are not enough Echolyn fans out there anywhere? The thought alone is a scary idea.

I, just find this sad ... and hope that things work out ... but 25 years ago, this worked out really well for some other bands, and perhaps that was the time to do it, since ... at the very least ... you knew that the folks that read it were the folks that really mattered to the band ... it's really hard to say this nowadays, with the Internet such a divisive and not caring for many things other than the viable commerciality of things. 

(Which, btw, tells you how commercial the Internet has become, and folks are affected!!!!!)

For the sake of the art form, this really needs to make it, even if it might be considered this or that ... I'm not an avid listener of the band but have heard pretty much all of their work, and I think they deserve the attention and the chance ... but I hate to see it all fall apart, and kill the band ... that would be the harshest reality of the "fans" in the Internet! 

I think they will just go for a loan or sth. but its really a pity that they won´t get as much as they deserve. But srsly the marketing also wasn´t widespread enough.

Why are they not making a contract with inside out? Wouldn´t they be interested. I mean I obviously know their past experiences with sony : ) haha

Hi,

The internet is widespread enough and then some ... the issue is, at least as I see it, that ECHOLYN is not showing itself as valuable and important as it may have been in 1990's and 2000's. And based on so much of the material listed in the best of and favorites each and every month, I am not sure that Echolyn is going to get the ears that it deserves ... we'll see how they come up in some of the ratings soon enough!

I (personally) hope that things come out alright ... the ability to sustain these bands is important for the value of "progressive music", although my thoughts are that in the end of 2024, the value is for "progrock" that is cookie cutter variety and 5 minute songs (so to speak), as if the audience was not capable to listen to anything else, which I find really sad ... there are a lot of folks that listen to music that is very different and deserving of attention, but it won't likely get it because it does not fit the cookie cutting styles.

I hope that Christmas (and Santa Claus!!!) finally shows up for this band ... gosh knows they deserve it, although they are not the only ones. But their "Internet" presence likely has to improve, and I don't mean just bulletin board material. It didn't take PT, DT, or Marillion over night to get enough attention that they don't have to listen to any one telling them what to play and do ... and I think we need more bands like that.

Take care

Brett

I was surprised we did not see 1000 people want to purchase the albums early, given THE continual growth of sales on previous albums from 2000 to 2015.  Yet the model for music has changed since 2015, and streaming is NOW how we listen to music these days. It's both great and sad at the same time. 

We hope to still meet out deadlines to release... so stay tuned!

Thank you to everyone that helped support the funding of our two new albums. 

Most sincerely

BWK

Hi,

I wonder, though ... if the more things change the more they stay the same?

The streaming thing was/is centered on the sale of individual songs ... for a dollar, let's say ... and an album has 6, 7 or 8 pieces, and that would make the album price, more or less.

But some notes here that are really tough and have hurt the sale of a lot of music ... take a Beethoven Symphony ... let's say 4 movements, at a dollar? ... the equation is now screwed up, because the streaming system was designed for SONGS ... not music ... and it has never been cleared up ... and I can already see it .... Klaus Schulze broken up into segments to appease to a singles audience. I can tell you what Edgar Froese would say about that, for sure!

It reminds me of the 1970's when my roommate would bring stuff from the station (Guy Guden - Space Pirate Radio) and many albums with long cuts were BANDED ... to try and get the station to at least play parts of it ... and this was a number 1 FM station, mind you! So you had CTTE in various parts, TFTO is an ungodly number of parts, Tarkus in at least 5 or 6 parts, Karn Evil in several parts ... and at least I'm happy to see that many folks did not like that ... and it seems that the practice slowed down and might have stopped ... but nowadays, a lot of the "progressive" and "progrock" is not exactly about the music itself, but the song .... and many times I find this sad ... I tend to think that the "songs" get a lot more respect, than the rest of the band's album ... feels like Venus de Milo missing arms or legs ... in a museum! 

Again, the best of luck, and Holidays ... I really wish that the commercial systems that do mp3's and such, were more forgiving and helpful, but for them it's about the money, and if they can get 9 songs for a dollar each, that's better than the sale of the album, which is not bringing in as much money.

What bothers me the most is that "progressive" websites, do not seem care enough enough of a band's album and its concept and idea, and a lot of discussions tend to break apart ... though the album will be listed in their best of the month or year. But I can not speak for the efficiency of this when the album is in the midst of 75 other releases ... and I can't help feel that it makes the album not as good as all those ... which, of course, is not fair to all the others ... and this is one reason why I do not list things, and I do tend to not do preferences per se, though my take on "krautrock" as an artist scene, not just a bunch of songs ... makes me feel that rock music lovers never saw a movie, or a play, or ... 

It's as if the conceptual base is way off ... my favorite example is the cover of PASSION PLAY, which is a sort of satirical comment (for me) that classical music died ... or is done ... and it certainly has been the case as the sales of classical music has dropped to a point that you and I can not exactly list some famous maestros or special artists ... and the ones travelling the college circuit ... are nothing "special" in what I have seen so far ... at least nothing compared to Isaac Stern, Yehudi Menuhin, Leonard Bernstein, and so many other monsters that brought us music ... and soon, we will see "progressive rock" and "prog rock" ... as folks get tired of the same thing over and over again?

Staying on top of it all is tough ... I hope that Echolyn can "get there" and be able to do what they do best ... several friends of mine (Djam Karet) all have side "jobs" ... which kinda tells you they are in the same state of affairs, though they have had a decent distribution system to get their material out ... though I can not speak to its value these days ... but some lucky ones, seem to do just fine ... Marillion, DT, Porcupine Tree ... basically they were there at the beginning, and have continued with it, allowing for some artistic freedom that is rare in this ocean of music.

this is totally understandable but also must be disheartening for a band that were amongst the new wave of brilliant prog bands that came along in the 90's and have been consistent in quality of all their releases for decades. The 'name' should be enough. That said it only reminds us how 'niche' the prog world and soon it will likely not exist ( I don't care enough for 'alternative music' to want to gravitate to that and would rather stick with all my old classic prog if there are no other real options)

Hi,

Agreed. And, sadly, in some ways the Internet is the place that has created that idea and thought ... heck I think I did not listen to a lot of things until at least 2005  and purchased things  from the bands and artists that I knew and understood to be (generally) very good. 

I think Echolyn fits in that group of special bands ... but all in all, I often post and say things that most folks don't seem to relate to very well ... so, at least, I'm not one of those folks that will listen to many of the things on the monthly list, or the yearly list ... and then not get anything ... although nowadays, there is so much stuff out there, that I'm not surprised to see someone treat Echolyn like everything else ... but it also says something for the incredible quantity of materials out there to the point that it is really difficult for some folks to make up their mind, especially when someone said it was great ... and in my case, OFTEN, I feel like ... no ... please ... not more cookie cutting! 

Echolyn does not fit in a cookie cutting factory, and in my book deserves more from listeners and fans ... but that might not be how others feel ... as sad as that might be.

Jordan Perlson is class A human and top notch session drummer. This band would not have made another album without someone of his quality. I am lucky to know him.

Brett

Here's a fun clip/music teaser for one of the two songs on TimeSilentRadio II. This album consists of two songs, Water in our Hands ( 28:51) and Time Has No Place (16:37). 

The teaser is from Time Has No Place with Jordan and Chris tracking drums and Organ.

I think the two songs on TSRII are some of my favorites that we've created. They are up there with Speaking In Lampblack, Island, Uncle, Mei, and Past Gravity. They are powerful and otherworldly in a sense that they formed easily and touch on something universal, without us overthinking the arrangements.

Head over to echolyn.com and buy the music!

Brett