Closer to the Heart or Wonderous Stories
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Topic: Closer to the Heart or Wonderous Stories
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Closer to the Heart or Wonderous Stories
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:07
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I thought of this one last night. Both are a bit on the mellow side (at least compared to other songs by these bands) and both are from 1977. Most on here probably know these two really well but here you go anyway. |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:25
Wonderous Stories is closer to the heart. 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:33
| Closer to the Heart |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:48
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Wonderous Stories is pure magic. Closer to the Heart, while not bad, is an obvious attempt for a single.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:48
What if I said Heart of the Sunrise instead?
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:50
Yep. It's hard to argue with that. They were trying to build off the momentum of 2112 and finally get played on the radio. It worked and although CttH wasn't a top forty hit it did get some airplay.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 12:55
| Wondrous stories by miles |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 13:08
That would have been an unfair poll.
 An epic vs a short ballad.  |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 13:11
Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure you would still say "closer to the heart" if the other one was "owner of a lonely heart."
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 13:13
I've always liked 90125. But yeah, i would have voted Rush in this context.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 16:27
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Like both, but Wonderous Stories is the better one. ------------- 
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 28 2024 at 17:55
| I love Both songs a lot, but Wonderous Stories takes my vote, by a small fraction. |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 03:06
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Wonderous Stories
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 04:22
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Both make my ears happy. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 06:15
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From the first YES album that I've purchased ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 08:40
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Wonderous Stories. I spent all day constipating on a multiplication problem. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 10:44
| Wonderous Stories by slight margin. Like both though. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 12:40
| I almost went with both but decided to go with wonderous stories. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 15:41
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Both equally ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 15:51
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I appreciate both, but Closer to the Heart is my preference. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 16:38
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Closer To The Heart-therein lies a tale regarding that song..... When my sister, myself and a friend of each of us went to see Rush in support of the "A Farewell To Kings" album-the tale end of the tour in early 1978 in Ottawa, before the concert, my sister and her friend found a way to sneak in and were in the arena when Rush were practicing before the show-it was just them and the band-and Neil Peart noticed them and said, "Hey, let's do one for the girls" and they played "Closer To The Heart". By this time, security had noticed them as well, and they were escorted back outside to a somewhat bewildered rest of us waiting in line to get in....
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 29 2024 at 19:16
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^ Good thing the Rush band members have been nice and gentle. I'd be concerned if it were, say, Gene Simmons of Kiss saying "Hey, let's do one for the girls" upon seeing them. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 08:40
Gene Simmons would probably put his bass guitar between his legs when playing it. That's maybe the only difference.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 09:19
| ^^I get you for sure; in most cases, Rock stars will be rock stars, but my sister and her friend were ok with Rush-though security took care of things pretty quickly, anyway.... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 09:29
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^ LOL, yes . ^^ I definitely have been an overprotective father, but I wouldn't be as concerned with Rush as many others. And of course it's important that you have professional and decent security guards. Anyway, times have got better generally, and in many ways more formal in my experience, and often more likely to press charges and detain methinks. There is lot more "security" generally as we now have greater fears of terrorism, bombthreats, shoot-ups.... ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 11:44
Didn't you ever see the Rush biography film called Beyond the Lighted Stage? in it there was a story about how Rush were staying in a hotel room and a woman's bowling league were down the hall with their door open. They were all in night gowns but Rush stayed in their room playing Dungeons and Dragons or something.
So yeah probably not much to worry about with Rush. ;) Kiss or Ted Nugent on the other hand..... I could also mention Motely Crue or Van Halen but I don't think either of them ever toured with Rush. |
Posted By: Duddick
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 12:21
| Two songs featuring high pitched vocalists so it’s neither for me |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 13:23
You don't like either band?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 17:22
No, heard of it. I've heard about that incident, I think. I remember hearing about them just reading their books instead of living the rock & roll lifestyle. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 18:37
Neil was notoriously a huge book worm. Next was probably Geddy and then Alex. I don't really know how much Geddy and Alex read though. However, I don't really think they read much while in hotel rooms. I think they played games and did little skits and stuff and overall just joked around a lot. At least that was the impression I got from the All The World's A Stage dvd.
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 19:40
Geddy Lee is a huge baseball fan ( Alex is too, although to a lesser degree). Lee stated when he was young and before the Toronto Blue Jays existed he used to follow the Detroit Tigers. When Rush came into existence and when on tour, Geddy stated he would watch the Chicago Cubs on WGN since they had their home games during the day before heading to the venue for sound checks. If the tour schedule allowed, Lee and Lifeson often would attend baseball and hockey games. Of course, Lee has an impressive baseball memorabilia collection (as well as bass collection). He did give the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City 200 baseballs signed by notable black baseball players. A few years ago at an auction a part of his collection went for $6.9 million dollars. But, yeah, in general Rush had a pretty boring Rock n Roll lifestyle on the road. Reading, playing video games and watching and attending sporting events seemed to be the norm. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 22:15
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^ I guess it's safe to say they were all faithful to their wives which would explain the lack of at least that kind of debauchery. I knew about Geddy's fascination with baseball. He's also a big wine collector. Alex is too I think and is a big golfer as well. I'm sure they still had fun on the road but it was their kind of fun and not the typical rock star kind of fun.
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: October 30 2024 at 23:43
Yeah, Alex is an avid golfer. He became a good friend with PGA tour golfer Rocco Mediate, a 6x winner on the PGA tour. Mediate famously lost to Tiger Woods in a playoff at the 2008 U.S. Open at Torrey Pines. Mediate and Lifeson became friends in 1992 when Mediate was preparing for the 1992 PGA Championship being played at Bellerive Country Club. Mediate is a big Rush fan and knew Rush was playing in St. Louis. So Mediate sent an invite to the guys to play a round of golf and Lifeson accepted. Mediate has spent a lot of time with Lifeson helping him with his game. Starting in the 90s, Lifeson was known to carry his clubs when on tour and throw in a few rounds here and there. Baseball Hall of Fame Pitcher Randy Johnson, a huge Rush fan, became good friends with the band. Johnson, who also a gifted photographer, documented a number of Rush concerts with his photography. I'm sure in the first years of touring, being young men they had their moments, but nothing more than probably what is found on a typical college campus. Alex has been married since 1975 and Geddy since 1976. Peart had been with his common law wife, Jacqueline Taylor, for 23 years before her unfortunate death in 1998. Peart married in 2000, Carrie Nuthall and remained so until his death. Much like the band themselves, outside the tragic deaths of Peart's first wife and daughter, not much drama to be found in their private lives. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 31 2024 at 04:39
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There was an auction last year at Christie's of some of Geddy's collection. It's quite eclectic and of museum quality. Kind of surprised that some of these things weren't in Cooperstown. https://www.christies.com/en/events/the-collection-of-geddy-lee-and-important-baseball-memorabilia/what-is-on" rel="nofollow - https://www.christies.com/en/events/the-collection-of-geddy-lee-and-important-baseball-memorabilia/what-is-on ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: October 31 2024 at 05:14
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Yes. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: Duddick
Date Posted: October 31 2024 at 10:11
Afraid not!
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 31 2024 at 14:28
Genesis, Pink Floyd and King Crimson then?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 31 2024 at 22:40
| I like both but neither really stands out. They represent the most accessible end of prog as we get to 1977 an were both played on radio. Could perhaps add ELP's Fanfare For The Common Man as another prog hit from that year and maybe even Afterglow from Genesis. The punks were not quite getting it all their own way! |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 02:44
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Wonderous Stories made a tear in both my eyes at about 7 seconds then it was OK 9/10 for first 10 seconds then 5/10 for rest ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 20:56
Nope. Rush never did the sowing wild oats thing. That's been well documented. Trust me us Rush fans would know. I'm sure they drank and smoked weed but that's about it. Anyway, Neil Peart aside from being an avid reader was also big into bicycling and riding his motorcyle. He travelled a lot and not just while on tour. When on tour in the later years the other two would take the bus but Neil would hop on his bike instead.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 05:09
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