Abacab vs Worlds Apart
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Polls
Forum Description: Create polls on topics related to progressive music
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=135054
Printed Date: August 06 2025 at 16:29
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Abacab vs Worlds Apart
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Subject: Abacab vs Worlds Apart
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 13:32
| Released within a few weeks of each other in 1981 (although in the USA, Worlds Apart had to wait until the following year for its release). Both albums were gamechangers for their respective bands: Abacab introduced a heavily synthesized, urban sound for Genesis, while Worlds Apart was Saga's first big-budget, "name producer" album that gave them a worldwide following. |
Replies:
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 13:59
|
Have to go with Genesis. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 14:02
|
That album got me into Saga in a big way...Although I remember hearing Humble Stance a few years before. Saw Saga in concert around 1983 on Heads or Tails tour, I really enjoy all their albums and they have a big catalog. Genesis is Genesis, easily in my top 5 all time...but Saga gets the nod for me here. -------------   
|
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 16:25
| I went with Saga. Very good album. I do like Abacab too. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 16:31
|
As I get older, I seem to like Abacab more and more, thus my vote. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 18:35
|
Worlds Apart. The whole album cooks, whereas Abacab has some very good songs (I love the title), but is not quite as engaging as Duke. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 20:52
| Worlds Apart...from start to finish. Abacab has some moments. I listened to Worlds Apart throughout the 80s. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 11 2025 at 04:39
| Saga by far here. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 11 2025 at 12:31
|
I have only heard the Genesis album in full and not for ages, so I won't vote (never got into the pop-rock AOR stuff that much) , but Saga's "On the Loose" off World's Apart I would hear being played so much back in the 80s. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: June 11 2025 at 18:32
|
None ------------- "You must not talk to idiots, it instructs them" (Michel Audiard) " Je ne parle pas aux idiots , cela les instruit" |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 06:05
|
Worlds Apart by 2 stars. Great album. ------------- 
|
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 08:02
|
Very good Saga album vs. OK Genesis album. ------------- I make typos so you see I'm not a machine, but I may be a machine pretending to not be a machine. |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 10:08
| Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 10:26
^Calling Genesis a prog band around 1981 is akin to calling Sade jazz rock Be that as it may I voted for Abacab. I happen to love Genesis’ 80s pop stretch. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 10:31
I'm not very familiar with these albums, however... Both have been rock bands and I believe that both have made progressive rock. I prefer to categorise on the album (or even track) level than band level commonly since many bands are only making progressive rock for part of their careers and I wonder, is Genesis still a Prog band at that point? Is Abacab more Prog than Worlds Apart? And how how much should our appreciation (our favourite) depend on how Prog something is? I love lots of non-Prog especially as a genre designation) music more than a great deal of Prog music, and actually, what I recognise as progressive rock may not fit another perception. Because I am member of a Prog forum does not mean to me that I must loyal to Prog (and a lot of Prog by numbers stuff is hardly progressive in a sense). ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Rick1 wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 11:01
You got in first -- sometimes it takes me minutes just to correct my typos. Funnily enough, I have seen various Prog fans complain because Genesis had jumped the Prog ship by then (or mostly). As for Sade, she was never into jazz-rock that I can recall, but she did Smooth Jazz and Lovers Rock. Alas, that Lovers Rock quip could have been almost funny if told totally differently by a smooth operator. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 12:00
Worlds Apart is much more proggy than Abacab. And it's a very good album compared to Abacab that I rate a good album. And Worlds Apart has nothing on it that approaches the wretched mess that is "Who Dunnit?" I'm a Prog fan, but there are a number of albums that are not considered Prog that I prefer over many Prog albums. So I would not say it's a sad day. Maybe if Worlds Apart was leading Selling England by the Pound or A Trick of the Tail in a poll, that possibly would be a sad day. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 12:14
Saga is a prog band that has made a few non-prog albums. Abacab comes at the tail end of Genesis being a prog band. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 13 2025 at 16:28
We're voting by album, not band. |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 14 2025 at 00:54
Genesis 
|
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: June 16 2025 at 10:47
| 'Abacab' all the way! |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 16 2025 at 10:58
| Fun fact: Martin Ditcham, former drummer with Henry Cow, went on to play with Sade (hear him on Henry Cow's Glastonbury and Elsewhere) Oh, I was comparing the albums, not the bands... |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 06:22
Saga: Worlds Apart 
|