Welsh Prog: 1st Album
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Topic: Welsh Prog: 1st Album
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Welsh Prog: 1st Album
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 01:56
Thanks to Essex Boy in Wales for the inspiration for this series of polls.   2007: 25 Yard Screamer - Cassandra - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZoZZDpv_gAUlBryA0oHdIJXwnu4K-5jM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZoZZDpv_gAUlBryA0oHdIJXwnu4K-5jM 1970: Aquila - Aquila - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbAdW-qB7bI&list=RDVbAdW-qB7bI&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbAdW-qB7bI&list=RDVbAdW-qB7bI&start_radio=1 1969: Blonde on Blonde - Contrasts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCchCKqSFa0&list=RDSCchCKqSFa0&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCchCKqSFa0&list=RDSCchCKqSFa0&start_radio=1  1971: Budgie - Budgie - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0Cdp2NrlqBnRwMrIaFC9NU7bTHOrlNaY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0Cdp2NrlqBnRwMrIaFC9NU7bTHOrlNaY 2020: Chimpan A - The Empathy Machine - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lKidY9ukttwY9DvXCTget5Whuz9nbU6Ys" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lKidY9ukttwY9DvXCTget5Whuz9nbU6Ys  1993: Cyan - For King and Country - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacxgQvJe8A" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacxgQvJe8A 1969: East of Eden - Mercator Projected - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nLnTXHIoyUo6vp2tiYdvsB18CWmlPEaNc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nLnTXHIoyUo6vp2tiYdvsB18CWmlPEaNc 1974: Roger Glover - The Butterfly Ball and the Grasshopper's Feast - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ktV8W_J2nkyxLbguZovRPLG8cWGOy997E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ktV8W_J2nkyxLbguZovRPLG8cWGOy997E 1972: Gnidrolog - In Spite of Harry's Toenail - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m3PXk-aXf626tUnu6i30qe5mtElt-khYk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m3PXk-aXf626tUnu6i30qe5mtElt-khYk 2010: Godsticks - Spiral Vendetta - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWggxZ5_Um4WB1j_tIDOq6gvqKFYsy1Wc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWggxZ5_Um4WB1j_tIDOq6gvqKFYsy1Wc 1998: Karnataka - Karnataka - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYvW7Xq7JmbYt4ToQ9yhwRT" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYvW7Xq7JmbYt4ToQ9yhwRT 2012: Kompendium - Beneath the Waves - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNRU5JCuIkZQfBIJZ_-pG6_XIwJVIL90Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNRU5JCuIkZQfBIJZ_-pG6_XIwJVIL90Q 1976: Lone Star - Lone Star - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAn6DdUzfGY&list=RDBAn6DdUzfGY&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAn6DdUzfGY&list=RDBAn6DdUzfGY&start_radio=1 2001: Magenta - Revolutions - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIe3T-MrH1EqR942YNj9Pwr" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIe3T-MrH1EqR942YNj9Pwr 1969: Man - Revelation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o6dEzsXl50&list=RD2o6dEzsXl50&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o6dEzsXl50&list=RD2o6dEzsXl50&start_radio=1 1985: Multi-Story - East-West - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lufg9zaykHe2R7ppZ253ZPR4Lc_I16M-8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lufg9zaykHe2R7ppZ253ZPR4Lc_I16M-8 1974: Neutrons - Black Hole Stars - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttwoRMG68u4&list=RDttwoRMG68u4&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttwoRMG68u4&list=RDttwoRMG68u4&start_radio=1 1999: The Othello Syndrome - The Shadow of Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YgFkWDlxXw&list=RD_YgFkWDlxXw&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YgFkWDlxXw&list=RD_YgFkWDlxXw&start_radio=1 2008: Panic Room - Visionary Position 1980: Pererin - Haul Ar Yr Eira - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mIxH09xYoAgiRxw1Gewi-yVtYo6S9OAG0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mIxH09xYoAgiRxw1Gewi-yVtYo6S9OAG0 1973: Quicksand - Home is Where I Belong - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6edsW0JVi9cY9mGsIRrQdOKDOoZhFSCo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6edsW0JVi9cY9mGsIRrQdOKDOoZhFSCo 2014: Robert Reed - Sanctuary - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s 2007: Sendelica - Spaceman Bubblegum and Other Weird Tales from the Mercury Mind - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJLVf6K6Md4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJLVf6K6Md4 2007: Soft Hearted Scientists - Take Time to Wonder in a Whirling World - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k-h60CCU-a-r4Y6Ziu89rIgs0fcCpuAVM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k-h60CCU-a-r4Y6Ziu89rIgs0fcCpuAVM 1996: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lC4DzU_8k-cduQZGom4lPlUOKUWiYPzb4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lC4DzU_8k-cduQZGom4lPlUOKUWiYPzb4
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 02:03
| -either East of Eden - Mercator Projected or Gnidrolog - In Spite of Harry's Toenail |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 03:48
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EBIW may have been the inspiration, but he’s pretty sure he’s not listened to any of these albums☺️ Now, where’s that series of Essex Prog polls?….. 😂 Actually the above is not true - I have the Kompendium album and I’m not gonna lie, it’s pretty tidy, is it butt?!!!😉🫢 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 03:52
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Man - Revelation Budgie - Budgie Gnidrolog - In Spite of Harry's Toenail Magenta - Revolutions |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 03:56
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 04:28
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Saperlipopette! wrote:Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 11:02
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Multi-Story – East-West ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 12:14
Those are my two favourites in the list and I chose East of Eden too. Mercator Projected is one of my very favourite albums of not just 1969, but of the 60s generally. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 12:29
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1. Magenta - Revolutions 2. Cyan - For King and Country 3. Robert Reed - Sanctuary 4. Kompendium - Beneath the Waves Scottish Prog is coming up tomorrow with the following line-up:- Abel Ganz Ian Anderson (Och aye!) Beggars Opera Boards of Canada (Yes, really!) Bodkin Bread, Love & Dreams Jack Bruce David Byrne Caedmon Clouds Cocteau Twins Comedy of Errors The Cosmic Dead Crooked Mouth Fish Grand Tour Incredible String Band Marillion (Seriously? No!) Midas Fall Mogwai Pallas Roads to Damascus Al Stewart Sunday Trembling Bells Writing on the Wall |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 13:07
Hi, Some love for MAN ... this is one band I have always loved dearly, and that first album is fun, but I'm not sure it is indicative of their "Welsh" roots, like the following albums of theirs ... I saw them and they were special, and I have even read Deke's book and reviewed it. Sadly, the book (Man on the Road to Nowhere) is very sad, but it goes to the very end of things. My favorite piece of theirs? "Never Say Nups to Nepalese" and "C'mon" (Back To the Future live version with the choir). Great stuff. There's also one other album doing Quicksilver's Mona ... Deke says of his special guest "... he don't know the words, and neither do we!" ... and they just rip that thing! Almost doesn't fit as "Welsh" at all since their main inspiration was Quicksilver Messenger Service, and John Cipollina even played with them a few times. Neutrons is a band related to Man ... and both of their albums ae really good. Black Hole Star, though is very special for its wonderful vocals. Another band also related to them is Help Yourself, which, sadly, is not represented in Paul's list! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 13:29
^ According to PA, Help Yourself were formed in London (with no mention of Wales), but you can Help Yourself to a review what I once wrote.  HELP YOURSELF (known as The Helps by their fans) were a London-based band with a unique sound that can best be described as Psychedelic Country. They recorded four albums during the early 1970's:- "Help Yourself" (1971); "Strange Affair" (1972); "Beware the Shadow" (1972); and "The Return of Ken Whaley" (1973). It seemed like Help Yourself may have been consigned to the annals of rock history after poor sales from their fourth album, but due to popular demand by their fans, they made a brief belated comeback with "Help Yourself 5" in 2004, which consisted mainly of 1973 recordings from an unreleased fifth album. It's time now to give Help Yourself's third helping a listen. Upon hearing the "Beware the Shadow" album for the first time, you'd be convinced they were an American Southern Rock band. In fact, their first song "Alabama Lady", sounds like a typical song that the U.S. bands Alabama or the Allman Brothers Band might have recorded in their heyday. Help Yourself have encapsulated the American Southern Rock sound perfectly with "Alabama Lady". It sounds as American as a Stetson-wearing cowboy in a rodeo riding a bucking bronco. Next up is the real highlight of the album, the 12-minute-long song "Reaffirmation". The floating sound of a Mellotron in the opening gives the song a somewhat mystical air, but this is only a prelude to a long Psychedelic Country jam session that sounds very reminiscent of some of the Grateful Dead's extended jams, only Help Yourself are much more Alive and Kicking in this exhilarating number than the Grateful Dead ever were in their seemingly endless jams. Side One draws to a close now (already?) with the brief "Calypso", which turns out to be a hippyish campfire sing-along song. The Side Two opener "She's My Girl" has the same happy and carefree sound of the summer as "Here Comes the Sun" by The Beatles. "She's My Girl" has Hit Song written all over it. It's a song that's positively aglow with passionate romantic love and optimistic hope for the future. Up next is "Molly Bake Bean", a song with childish innocence which sounds just as silly and frivolous as the song title implies. It's a perfect Country sing-along song to listen to and join in with whilst eating baked beans around a campfire with the kids. And now it's time for the BIG bluesy piano ballad "American Mother", another song that sounds as quintessentially Born To Be Wild American as riding a Harley-Davidson motorcycle over the Golden Gate Bridge. "American Mother" sounds like a song that Big Brother & the Holding Company might have recorded and it brings to mind another great song, "American Woman", by the Canadian band The Guess Who. Both songs represent good old-fashioned Blues-Rock numbers with the same raw and earthy appeal. We're just "Passing Through" now for the final song, a gently laid-back slice of Folk-Rock Americana. "Beware the Shadow" is unlikely to appeal to Prog-Rock fans generally, but if you're in the mood to listen to some good old country boys from the Deep South of London in England, then Help Yourself to this rather unique Psychedelic Country album. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 15:17
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Voted for Magenta. The Othello Syndrome a very close second. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 29 2025 at 20:42
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Budgie over East Of Eden. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 30 2025 at 05:43
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Magenta gets the nod. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 30 2025 at 06:33
Hi, I did say ... "related" and mostly it was because Ken Whaley and Malcom Morley were taken from them by MAN, and later they returned to Help Yourself. MAN did not exactly get better or more interesting with them. But they soldiered on with Mickey and Deke on the road to nowhere! (Deke's excellent, but sad, book) ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: June 30 2025 at 18:53
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East of Eden - Mercator Projected ------------- 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 30 2025 at 22:33
| Lone Star |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 04:19
| Budgie, followed by Magenta, Cyan and Godsticks |
Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 09:33
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1° East of Eden 2° Neutrons 3° Magenta |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 10:26
| Budgie |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 11:39
I first heard about Budgie on Twitter.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 12:28
I first heard them at a friend's place; it was the Bandolier album. Instantly impressed, and ended up getting many of their albums.... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 13:16
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Budgie - You Are the Biggest Thing Since Powdered Milk (with great cover artwork by Roger Dean) |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 13:28
Hi, NP: (from "Bandolier") Napolean Bona-Part One Napolean Bona-Part Two ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 01 2025 at 22:04
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 02 2025 at 00:16
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