Favourite 70s Continental European Fusion Artists
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Topic: Favourite 70s Continental European Fusion Artists
Posted By: presdoug
Subject: Favourite 70s Continental European Fusion Artists
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 07:28
| I had to correct the title of this poll so it would fit properly. |
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 07:29
| My vote goes to the obscure Giger Lenz Marron, formed after the disbanding of Dzyan. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 08:12
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I'm more into album polls over band or song polls but... there's two that stand out. Dedalus and Terje Rypdal, but I have to go the latter for the many great albums he has released compared to the one great record from the Italians. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 08:13
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Wether European Fusion or all music, Terje Rypdal is one of my favorite artists. love Dedalus' debut, Giger Lenz Marron, Dzyan and selected albums by Passport as well. I've enjoyed what I've heard by Brainstorm and Gunter Fischer Quintet too. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 08:17
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I listen to two bands in this poll, so i don't know if my vote matters here. I'll try and explore the other bands in the poll, when i have the time.  
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 08:58
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Terje Rypdal ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 11:25
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I vote for Passport based on the quality of their best material even though they also have quite a bit that is not for me. Also love Terje Rypdal. ------------- I make typos so you see I'm not a machine, but I may be a machine pretending to not be a machine. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 12:33
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Of the choices, Passport. Shout out to Jean-Luc Ponty. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 07 2025 at 13:38
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I'm throwing a bone to Il Baricentro because I love their two albums. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 03:38
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Rypdal is the only one I know. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 10:02
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Wow! I have to say, "NONE!" I don't consider any of these artists "top tier" European Jazz-Rock Fusion artist except perhaps Klaus Doldinger. My list would look like this (in no particular order): Area SBB Arti E Mestieri Iceberg Atoll Eberhard Weber Fermáta Cortex Etna Janne Schaffer Pop Workshop Michal Urbaniak Jan Akkerman Missus Beastly Zao Perigeo Secret Oyster Pekka Pohjola Chris Hinze Cervello/Nova Atila Association P.C. (Pierre Courbois) Out of Focus Moose Loose Volker Kriegel Extra Ball Jukka Hauru Jukka Tolonen Didier Lockwood ALL of these artists I would rate/rank higher than the ones you gave us to choose from, Doug! Sorry! No disrespect but perhaps we have very different definitions of Jazz-Rock Fusion. (Are we even talking about Jazz-Rock Fusion? You use the single-word term "Fusion." Perhaps you mean something completely different from me with that term!) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 10:06
Agreed. The sound engineering quality of those first five Passport albums is ahead of ANYTHING USA (or British) bands were producing at the time. Mind boggling the clean, clear, wonderfully-defined sound that they produced in 1971! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Lewian wrote:Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 10:09
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Out of my Eastern European Slav shіthole, String Connection was one of the very few standouts. ------------- 
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 10:40
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 10:42
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The ideal Solution.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 11:24
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 12:30
Again, I'm wondering if Doug's definition of "Fusion" is different from my understanding of "Jazz-Rock Fusion," so, in that instance, yes, my comment might have been rather brash and "sh*tty." As for Terje Rypdal's prowess, I know his reputation, absolutely LOVE "Bleak House," but have yet to find enough consistency in A) his commitment to Jazz-Rock Fusion and B) his stylistic choices to find any consistent impression, much less enjoyment, of his playing. Due to my lack of finding any connection to his work either with George Russell and the Esoteric Circle stuff (often credited to Jan Garbarek--and I also lack connection to the majority of Jan Garbarek's output) as well to his solo stuff after Bleak House, I have lacked the motivation to listen to a lot of Terje's solo stuff over the course of the last three years and the over 700 Jazz and J-R Fusion albums I've reviewed. I welcome and ask for the albums to listen to that will get me re-excited for Terje's music. Any suggestions? (Have not connected AT ALL with Afric Pepperbird or "Terje Rypdal"--and I do usually choose to listen to an artist's discography in near-chronologic order.) At the same time, I stand by my statement and list: those are the albums I've heard over the past three years from European Continental BANDS that I have most connected with--who I esteem on a par with the Greats in the Anglo-American Scene. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 12:32
I'm talking Jazz-rock Fusion, but in my title for the Poll, I had to lower the amount of letters in it for it to work, so I changed it to just "fusion", but yes, we're talking Jazz-rock fusion, here. I know some of the ones on your list, and of those I know, they don't hold a candle to my selection! I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the definition of quality in this time and genre! |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 12:41
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From Presdoug: 'I'm talking Jazz-rock Fusion, but in my title for the Poll, I had to lower the amount of letters in it for it to work, so I changed it to just "fusion", but yes, we're talking Jazz-rock fusion, here. I know some of the ones on your list, and of those I know, they don't hold a candle to my selection! I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the definition of quality in this time and genre!' Agreed! (to agree to disagree!) . . . "hold a candle" . . . that's a pretty strong statement, Doug! Would that be a beeswax candle, tallow, or glycerine? Area, SBB, Jan Akkerman, Fermáta, Michal Urbaniak ... not being able to hold a candle to *choke* anybody on your list! That's amazing! Guess I don't know my Jazz-Rock Fusion! So much to learn! And enjoy the process along the way! I've learned so much about Jazz and Jazz-Rock Fusion thanks to PA and YouTube. I'm very excited for how far I've come--and even more excited for how much more there is to learn! Before 2007 I thought Prog was dead and gone! I've been so fortunate to be prog-educated--to keep expanding my brain and knowledge--to watch my preferences change and grow. So there's more!?!?! BRING IT ON! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 13:22
Aargh! I wrote a long list with comments, but PA denied me posting it! Short version: Terje Rypdal, 1971 What Comes After, 1974 Whenever I seem to be Far Away, 1974 Odyssey, 1975 (Important: the epic Rolling Stone - is only included on Odyssey in Studio & In Concert on streaming/CD) Waves, 1978 Terje Rypdal / Miroslav Vitous / Jack DeJohnette , 1980 To Be Continued, 1981 (same line-up) A little Crimsonesque fusion warm up: |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 14:11
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Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 14:13
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 14:14
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 05:14
Thanks, Rollon! I look forward to checking those albums out--especially as I am nearing the end of my list of 1970s "Peak Era" J-R Fuse albums to review. I hope Terje can win me back over--though I see you've included in your list the 1971 eponymously-titled LP--which is the one that really turned me sour on his developmental choices. We'll see! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 06:29
Those albums you've heard with Garbarek (including Esoteric Circle) and George Russell do not share any common ground with his solo outings really. I do love the wild free jazz (it still has a fusioneque groove, though) of Afric Pepperbird too - and actually find it hugely entertaining and fun, but I'm very much into that kind of jazz as well. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 06:39
And you have mentioned a fare bit of artists that I know by name only, and I will check youtube for some of those and see.... |