The Ultimate Progressive Rock Top 50?
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Topic: The Ultimate Progressive Rock Top 50?
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: The Ultimate Progressive Rock Top 50?
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 01:12
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Compiled by Jerry Lucky for the 20th Century Rock & Roll Collector's Guide series, this is the Ultimate Prog Rock Top 50 of the 20th Century. Or is it? Are there any of these fifty listed prog artists you don't believe should be included in the Top 50, and if so, who would you replace them with? 01. Amon Duul II (Germany) 02. Ange (France) 03. Anglagard (Sweden) 04. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (Italy) 05. Camel (England) 06. Can (Germany) 07. Caravan (England) 08. Cast (Mexico) 09. Deus Ex Machina (Italy) 10. Dream Theater (United States) 11. Echolyn (United States) 12. Eloy (Germany) 13. Emerson, Lake & Palmer (England) 14. The Enid (England) 15. The Flower Kings (Sweden) 16. Focus (Holland) 17. Peter Gabriel (England) 18. Genesis (England) 19. Gentle Giant (England) 20. Gong (Multi-National) 21. Grobschnitt (Germany) 22. Gryphon (England) 23. Happy the Man (United States) 24. Hawkwind (England) 25. Henry Cow (England) 26. IQ (England) 27. Jethro Tull (England) 28. Kansas (United States) 29. King Crimson (England) 30. Le Orme (Italy) 31. Magma (France) 32. Marillion (England) 33. The Moody Blues (England) 34. The Nice (England) 35. Mike Oldfield (England) 36. Omega (Hungary) 37. PFM (Italy) 38. Pink Floyd (England) 39. Procol Harum (England) 40. Renaissance (England) 41. Rush (Canada) 42. Soft Machine (England) 43. Spock's Beard (United States) 44. Strawbs (England) 45. Styx (United States) 46. Tangerine Dream (Germany) 47. UK (England) 48. Van der Graaf Generator (England) 49. Rick Wakeman (England) 50. Yes (England) |
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 03:33
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Surprisingly this list isn't too bad, also for its attempt to cover a broad range of countries. That said, how anyone could ever think Styx belong more in an "ultimate prog top 50" than Frank Zappa is beyond me. Also the list doesn't have 3 of my prog top 5 bands (Art Zoyd, Cardiacs, Talk Talk), and it doesn't have Kate Bush. Now that's just my personal taste, and I accept that the guy thinks differently... anyway... As a solo artists from already listed bands I'd choose Hammill over Wakeman. Out of those in there I've never heard Cast (so can't argue they should be out but...) and I don't think The Enid should qualify, they're not the only ones, but I leave to other users to throw out more. ------------- I make typos so you see I'm not a machine, but I may be a machine pretending to not be a machine. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 03:59
Altohugh I don't know who he is, Jerry Lucky's personal taste shines through. Too much inessential Neo and first generation "Retro Symphonic". I would have kept about 20 of these. But if I try to look past my own tastes and preferences. I think these do not, almost objectively belong in a Ultimate Top 50 list:
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Psychedelic Paul wrote:Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 04:18
I'd only drop four names from the list:- Cast; Deux Ex Machina; Henry Cow (obviously!) & Spock's Beard, and replace them with:- Barclay James Harvest; Pallas; Pendragon; & Supertramp! 
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 04:18
| Magma, Styx, The Flower Kings, and IQ could be removed and replaced with, The Aristocrats, Porcupine Tree, Riverside, and Thank You Scientist. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 04:21
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Magma (no surprise there), but I think they have a well-deserved place in the Top 50.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 06:35
And Henry Cow dont?!! Id add Univers Zero ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 06:55
Edited when I noticed the original list was about 20th century prog only. |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 07:21
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No Curved Air or Pentangle? ------------- "Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 07:28
| ^Love them both, more than the majority of acts actually featured on the list, but I can't say that I'm surprised. But it would be nice to have both more female vocals and prog folk included (I know only The Pentangle are considered folk) |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 07:44
| Shame Barclay James Harvest and Supertramp are not on that list. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:10
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Hi, It's a nice listing and features a lot of different things, and adding/subtracking one or another band, is the worst headache ever. I might like to have this or that added, but it becomes a bit over the top, and the bad thing in my book, is how some folks in the jazz area get left behind. I'm not sure that considering Egberto Gismonti, or Terje Rypdal as "jazz artists" is fair or helps define their music legacy at all ... their work is a fusion of anything and everything, except kitchen utensils, though I seriously doubt that Nana Vasconcellos did not use a bunch of them on his, or Egberto's albums! And then, of course, we end up leaving behind The Trunk and His Coconuts! Either way we look at it, the list will always be incomplete. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:31
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The very fact that PFM is missing and The Enid is listed tells me everything i need to know about this person's creds ;) -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:35
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:50
| ^^Although PFM is listed I still largely agree:) |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:50
The Aristocrats, Riverside, and Thank You Scientist didn't exist in the 20th century. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:51
| ^ Oh I missed that part (in the opening sentence:) too |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:55
King Gizzard's first album didn't come out until 2012, bearing in mind this is a 20th Century Top 50.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 08:59
The "Big 3" of Italian Prog are all listed and when I saw The Enid (one of my favourite prog bands) were listed in the Top 50 too, I knew this guy had great taste. 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 09:03
My thoughts exactly. 
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 09:06
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 09:10
I wouldn't even count Radiohead as prog. They might be in an Alternative Rock Top 50 though.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 09:21
| ^I don't count them as Prog but I count them as Progressive. They were Alt Rock up until 1997. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 09:48
I'd never even heard of Terje Rypdal before joining ProgArchives (hardly surprising) so I might just as easily have searched for him amongst kitchen utensils as jazz artists.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 21:12
LOL. I could've sworn they weren't listed. I guess i shouldn't respond as soon as i wake up ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 08 2025 at 21:31
| It's a good list but I don't believe Omega belongs on there. I don't know them to be fair but they aren't well known enough imo to be on a top fifty list. I would probably replace them with Nektar since they aren't on there. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 00:08
Omega was one of the few unpredictable choices in the list. I don't have a problem with them being there. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 00:30
The Hungarians would agree. Omega are as essential as polyunsaturated fatty acids. Omega - Gyongyhaju Lany (a song for pearly-haired girls everywhere)  |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 04:19
Hi, Goes way back for me ... I got into him immediately, after buying a Melody Maker and there was an advertisement in London for a concert of Terje Rypdal and Ash Ra Tempel. Discogs say 1975 for that album, so I imagine this to have been early 1975, maybe even as far as June. At the time Guy and I did (at least) monthly trips to LA to get music, from Moby Disk (Van Nuys), Tower (on the Strip) or the Warehouse (Westwood) ... and even catch a film or two, of things that never got as far as Santa Barbara. Near the newspaper/book store we bought these was a theater that showed films not always getting a full release and they had a lot of English stuff that we wanted to see, that we would not see for 20/30 years until the videos thing went good and big in the 90's. It took me 5 minutes to get into TR, and just like that the album "Odyssey" magically showed up at the station and Guy Guden tagged it quickly. But trying to find anything of his at the time was not easy ... and we had to go via blind faith a lot of times, but then we would not have found so many bands any other way ... ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 04:59
In general I don't either (and it's good to discover new bands) but not at the expense of others who may have been overall more influential or important to the genre. Just because a band is big in their homeland doesn't mean they are known and loved everywhere. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 05:08
| A while back Prog magazine had their top 100 prog artists of all time. If Paul wants to post that or start another thread with that I won't complain. ;) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 05:11
I think a lot of progheads in Europe know about Omega. They even recorded a few of their albums in English for audiences outside their homeland. And here i was trying to post a list of other bands from countries not mentioned on the list. Scratch that... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 05:16
Could be and maybe they do belong on the list but so does Nektar who are mysteriously absent. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 05:30
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Solaris are another bright shining light in the Hungarian progosphere, although with "only" six studio albums, Solaris are relatively obscure compared to Omega's prodigious output of albums over the years.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 06:09
I get it, Nektar should have been in the list, but why at the exclusion of Omega?! |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 07:39
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About Jerry Lucky, he's the author of The Progressive Rock Files (1998), a rather recommendable history of Progressive Rock. That said, I don't find this list to be particularly good, considering the fact that it intends to be top 50 of the most influential and important Progressive Rock bands of the 20th century. Neither does it quite follow the way he defines Progressive Rock in his book, as even his definition has been much appreciated by some musicologists, Lucky himself seems to get now and then confused when he makes list of Prog bands according to his definition. That is already evident in his (very extensive) A-Z listing of Prog bands in The Progressive Rock Files. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 08:19
Neither of those two properly qualify as "Prog Rock" in my book. Clearly Zappa is superior musically, but I'm sure he would be turning in his grave at the idea of him being named as a "Prog Rock Artist" ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 08:54
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Seeing as Omega are the only band from Hungary (or anywhere else in Eastern Europe) in the list, I'd be reluctant to leave them out of the Top 50.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 09:01
| If I counted right, just 11 countries in the list. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 09:02
Instead of starting a new thread, why not make a list of the fifty additional 20th Century prog artists you'd like to see included in the list to make it a full Top 100. That's what I'm planning to do, although it may take awhile. Here's a few for starters:- Barclay James Harvest Kayak Nektar Pallas Pendragon Supertramp Uriah Heep |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 09:28
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I’m happy to see Procol Harum, Can, and Hawkwind on the list. Not sure how “Happy the Man” made it. ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 09:55
Maybe because Nektar are much more of a household name among prog fans? Even Solaris are more well known than Omega (in prog circles) as far as Hungarian prog goes. Why aren't they on the list? |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 09:56
That's actually not a bad cross section of prog nations, considering there are "only" 26 English acts in the Top 50.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 09:58
I could get on board with this. Maybe add Happy the Man and Triumvirat too. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 10:01
Oops. I see HTM are already on there. Ok, add Porcupine Tree then and maybe also Ozric Tentacles. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 10:12
| ^And maybe include bands from the 21st Century? |
Posted By: BasedProgger
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 10:30
| Nice to see Happy the Man make it. Gryphon too. I'd replace Styx with Supertramp but other than that good list. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 09 2025 at 23:13
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Steve Hackett should be there as a solo artist. I wouldn't include one and done bands so would replace Happy The Man with SH. There is an argument for Peter Hammill as well and perhaps even Robert Wyatt. I would have liked to see Kayak on the list but like Supertramp they don't seem that significant to the actual movement. If we fast forward to the 90's then Par Lindh Project are at least as important as The Flower Kings in that decade and what about Anekdoten and Arena? |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 09:01
01. AMON DULL II A German band from Munich who are anything but dull. Chris Karrer is the main driving hammer who's flying the Krautrock banner with singer Renate Knaup providing the glamour. Viva La Trance! 1969: Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxVG9Cuv2G52OAKHNHJaYOmbIjDptwrOY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxVG9Cuv2G52OAKHNHJaYOmbIjDptwrOY  1970: Amon Duul II - Yeti - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n2V8P2jrq5IjzivfRftniWU-IKIfk7j_I" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n2V8P2jrq5IjzivfRftniWU-IKIfk7j_I 1971: Amon Duul II - Dance of the Lemmings - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mMScrnmiYzKOPmYYztK6rOTcr1N2znCUI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mMScrnmiYzKOPmYYztK6rOTcr1N2znCUI 1972: Amon Duul II - Carnival in Babylon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZ8YJMqETEjyugLOm6CUdpdfP5xBVkU0E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZ8YJMqETEjyugLOm6CUdpdfP5xBVkU0E 1972: Amon Duul II - Wolf City - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9Y5Hg95UHPT7U3-QrvSY0F9bAhiSd1G8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9Y5Hg95UHPT7U3-QrvSY0F9bAhiSd1G8 1973: Amon Duul II - Live in London - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lvdfDZoRIUir0FHZQF4oeeLChj8IL_PFc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lvdfDZoRIUir0FHZQF4oeeLChj8IL_PFc 1973: Amon Duul II - BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz5ZfePX5P4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz5ZfePX5P4 1974: Amon Duul II - Viva la Trance - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgNcGUV7AZHUgQNiBnxlPoTDaS4SzUGI8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgNcGUV7AZHUgQNiBnxlPoTDaS4SzUGI8 1974: Amon Duul II - Hijack - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lADbVSw611_pPCN2Xsc0qABcfZr75qt-o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lADbVSw611_pPCN2Xsc0qABcfZr75qt-o 1974: Amon Duul II - Lemmingmania - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kEKAHXfVtC6WVMlu3a_mcFlzkLzDvij0E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kEKAHXfVtC6WVMlu3a_mcFlzkLzDvij0E 1975: Amon Duul II - Made in Germany - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQLslNdrMQHNJ7IhRRRNWdlbpQFQi53-Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQLslNdrMQHNJ7IhRRRNWdlbpQFQi53-Q 1976: Amon Duul II - Pyragony X - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QI3VM_lLOc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QI3VM_lLOc 1977: Amon Duul II - Almost Alive - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRkLPHf8c0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRkLPHf8c0 1978: Amon Duul II - Only Human - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B0W8wUZ564_VBGFBrs7I0Wz_Y6UDqJx" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B0W8wUZ564_VBGFBrs7I0Wz_Y6UDqJx 1981: Amon Duul II - Vortex - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhtDEufzQ3U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhtDEufzQ3U 1995: Amon Duul II - Nada Moonshine # - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGOPJR9mmg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGOPJR9mmg 1995: Amon Duul II - Live in Munich - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lbvDmNaofk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lbvDmNaofk 1996: Amon Duul II - Eternal Flashback - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9hR4FTfGsQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9hR4FTfGsQ 1996: Amon Duul II - Live in Tokyo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6UMTE_aVkI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6UMTE_aVkI AMON DUUL Mein Gott! Was ist Das!?? This is the original incarnation of Amon Duul, an unashamedly Communist collective flying the red flag banner and including some future founders of the Red Army Faction, so if you have a taste for badly-produced, interminably long improvisational experimentations with left-wing political overtones, then Amon Duul will be right up your autobahn, but for the rest of us, you're better off skipping straight to Amon Duul II.  1969: Amon Duul - Psychedelic Underground - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msl6gdm-uoTSya-9CuGGvVpvkauveR5YY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msl6gdm-uoTSya-9CuGGvVpvkauveR5YY 1969: Amon Duul - Collapsing: Singvogel Ruckwarts & Co. - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lH_vj-_YL2uLUUcOu2J_7CfHOstRxEqhE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lH_vj-_YL2uLUUcOu2J_7CfHOstRxEqhE 1970: Amon Duul - Paradieswarts Duul - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxyFNpyqMLLixVraHLkSnW3wQLzaqpdB4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxyFNpyqMLLixVraHLkSnW3wQLzaqpdB4 1972: Amon Duul - Disaster (Luud Noma) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXnyu23fGiHjk1lujWwYCb8ZJhlSXwAL8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXnyu23fGiHjk1lujWwYCb8ZJhlSXwAL8 1983: Amon Duul - Experimente - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlRhg401IA%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlRhg401IA
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 12:27
Because next to Kansas they are probably the most well known and influential prog band from the US from the 20th century. And before anyone mentions Starcastle remember they lose credibility for sounding too much like Yes.
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 12:57
If you say so! I don't really hear much about them, or their music. I once listened to Crafty Hands... it wasn't my thing, but then again neither are Kansas or Starcastle... Im so out of touch I truly am glad you found them to your liking. It's not like I hate them or anything, just surprised to see them on the list. ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 14:27
No, I get it. Other than the most obvious prog bands (Yes, Genesis, KC, PF, Rush, etc.) the bands who tend to get the most attention these days are modern bands who have been active in the past ten years. Even after five years or so bands start to become forgotten and a band from a long time ago will be most certainly be forgotten (even 90s and 2000 bands actually) if they aren't mentioned all the time on reddit or on here. It's pretty easy for a band to be forgotten. Mastermind who were well known in prog circles in the 90s are a good example of a band who are almost totally forgotten about these days but there are many examples. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 15:32
You forgot about Todd Rundgren's Utopia. I'm not sure how "influential" Happy the Man are, either. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 15:42
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Todd did sooo much in his career and most people just remember him saying “Hello it’s me”. I always thought that the “Initiation” album was/is a classic, although time has not been kind to it… like many albums from that era it now sounds a bit dated due to the Prahma-yahma subject matter. Great album tho. When I say I don’t care for a band or album it is never meant to slight anyone who likes it. We all have different viewpoints about music, and mine are often way out in left field. ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 10 2025 at 22:03
Come on, we all know Todd was from another planet.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 00:04
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Then we have to count Rush, and they're the most influential prog rock band in North America. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 02:50
02. ANGE A French Symphonic Prog band for those of us who remain perplexed by the arcane Kobaian language of Magma. Ange crossed the English Channel way back in 1973 to play at the famed Reading Festival, which went unreported at the time, as most of the music journos in attendance slipped away to grab a burger while Ange were performing their set.  1972: Ange - Caricatures - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGqNZLW4d2LVll6qE4eW5l-n-zjs1EXl8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGqNZLW4d2LVll6qE4eW5l-n-zjs1EXl8 1973: Ange - Le Cimetiere des Arlequins - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nnu8vy0GJdAzPslUZ0H6xuYCRDJls0pKE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nnu8vy0GJdAzPslUZ0H6xuYCRDJls0pKE 1974: Ange - Au-Dela du Delire - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ljo7vSqeR1S5XXs3uCkWJkj5D3oyK58qg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ljo7vSqeR1S5XXs3uCkWJkj5D3oyK58qg 1975: Ange - Emile Jacotey - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mug7oXTAt5xCfhNHCIkVwS68z5VKE3iVI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mug7oXTAt5xCfhNHCIkVwS68z5VKE3iVI 1976: Ange - Par les fils de Mandrin 1977: Ange - Tome VI - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ntcW8RNBVQdyCilxc0e_5VraO7HPH53Og" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ntcW8RNBVQdyCilxc0e_5VraO7HPH53Og 1978: Ange - Guet-Apens - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mq9Bx7qvUy7LC-2PCIhfJxRkdZmD9OTxQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mq9Bx7qvUy7LC-2PCIhfJxRkdZmD9OTxQ 1980: Ange - Vu d'un Chien - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nOHNIKGNJ0NDWPHsevdY7uLV4lxVvZKQ4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nOHNIKGNJ0NDWPHsevdY7uLV4lxVvZKQ4 1981: Ange - Moteur! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_knMuYqyKKRQPKzgaU7a94LpkbuLg3R85Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_knMuYqyKKRQPKzgaU7a94LpkbuLg3R85Q 1982: Ange - A Propos de... - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ln8RSQiQehX2vlYCgO3TALDyyI25KjshM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ln8RSQiQehX2vlYCgO3TALDyyI25KjshM 1983: Ange - La Gare de Troyes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mPucZJKKEsfqUMxOcBxiVN09IiR1FPG8A" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mPucZJKKEsfqUMxOcBxiVN09IiR1FPG8A 1984: Ange - Fou! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGxpNgyam5tWH64APmLNHCL179yj27Vwc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGxpNgyam5tWH64APmLNHCL179yj27Vwc 1986: Ange - Egna - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoRNXsrOuZ-WW8gYsl9u3GYq1g-IxKypd" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoRNXsrOuZ-WW8gYsl9u3GYq1g-IxKypd 1987: Ange - Tout Feu Tout Flamme... C'est Pour de Rire 1989: Ange - Seve Qui Peut 1994: Ange - Memo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwSd6LzsNTlJXJjHjCJkVLDG1o9gYqWES" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwSd6LzsNTlJXJjHjCJkVLDG1o9gYqWES |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 04:20
-I don't know who this Jerry Lucky is, but I'm willing to bet money he's an American. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 04:26
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Our very own Miami Scot reviews Happy the Man. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 07:41
HI, Hi, PAUL ... I just noticed, that someone is releasing REMASTERED versions of their albums ... I'm not really sure it is going to help much, as the party atmosphere does not require better sound, unless you want to hear the sex details in between the notes! Or, to be less shocked, hearing someone take a heavy duke of a really big reefer being passed around! It is a bit strange to see this done, and I'm OK for the side that everything gets remastered so it sounds better, but I'm not really sure that any of AD1 had any need of better or remastered works ... as what they did would not exactly qualify as art as much as it would as a party where everyone participated and had fun with. Sex or not is optional of course, but dope? Pass it on pal ... hurry up ... I want my toke! (And I quit the stuff 50 years ago!) ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 19:34
| I think it's a reasonably good list in spite of a few shock inclusions and exclusions that, as others have said, cannot "objectively" be included or excluded. Good to see Eloy there as they are often eschewed from such lists. Good to see Supertramp not there as they are often included. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 11 2025 at 20:31
Fortunately they did make the list. Sometimes Rush get excluded just because they came a little later. I'm not sure being from Canada has much to do with it though. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 03:35
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Okay, after much deliberation (about 30 minutes), I've thrown together a rough & ready list of my additional fifty top prog artists of the 20th century to make it a full Top 100 (subject to change). 51. Agitation Free (Germany) 52. Jon Anderson (England) 53. Anyone's Daughter (Germany) 54. Aphrodite's Child (Greece) 55. Area (Italy) 56. Ash Ra Tempel (Germany) 57. Asia (England) 58. Barclay James Harvest (England) 59. Beggars Opera (Scotland) 60. Kate Bush (England) 61. Clearlight (France) 62. Curved Air (England) 63. Earth and Fire (Holland) 64. East of Eden (England) 65. Electric Light Orchestra (England) 66. Family (England) 67. Far East Family Band (Japan) 68. Flower Travellin' Band (Japan) 69. Goblin (Italy) 70. Greenslade (England) 71. Steve Hillage (England) 72. Steve Hackett (England) 73. Jane (Germany) 74. Janus (England) 75. Kaipa (Sweden) 76. Kayak (Holland) 77. Kraftwerk (Germany) 78. Jade Warrior (England) 79. Man (Wales) 80. Manfred Mann's Earth Band (England) 81. Nektar (England) 82. Novalis (Germany) 83. Outer Limits (Japan) 84. The Alan Parsons Project (England) 85. Pallas (England) 86. Pell Mell (Germany) 87. Pendragon (England) 88. Porcupine Tree (England) 89. Rare Bird (England) 90. Solaris (Hungary) 91. Supertramp (England) 92. Trace (Holland) 93. Traffic (England) 94. Triumvirat (Germany) 95. Uriah Heep (England) 96. Utopia (United States) 97. Vangelis (Greece) 98. Wallenstein (Germany) 99. Wigwam (Finland) 100 Frank Zappa (United States) |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 08:17
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Paul, here are some important ones that you left off (imo) but I know you can't have everyone. ;) F.M. Ozric Tentacles Saga Harmonium Le Orme Grobschnitt Sebastian Hardie New Trolls Pulsar Sky |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 08:22
| Soft Machine was the only jazz fusion included in the Top 50. I could easily list 50 more. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 08:48
I was thinking the same thing. Absent are Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return to Forever, Weather Report, Brand X, Dixie Dregs, Passport, Secret Oyster, Pierre Morlen's Gong, Kraan, Embryo, etc. Then there's also a bunch of Canterbury bands not on there such as National Health, Hatfield and the North, Egg, Khan, etc. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 10:24
Le Orme and Grobschnitt are in the original Top 50 and I deliberately left out Jazz Fusion artists from my additional list.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 11:25
Factoring in their longevity, tied directly to their connection to Dario Argento and Italo-horror, Goblin should absolutely be in the Top 50.
As well as those two! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 14:35
Whoops. Not sure how I missed them then. And also you did have Area who are sort of borderline fusion I guess. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 22:32
I think that's only because they are often put it in with the Canterbury scene (and are classed as such on PA) so it looks odd if they aren't included (I guess anyway) |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 22:52
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Steeleye Span anyone? ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 12 2025 at 23:15
And I'm amazed at how many second tear latecomers and borderline progressive rock bands that PA members consider to be among the ultimate, essential and representative bands of Prog Rock. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 05:06
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I think, we owe Jerry Lucky and others to tell that this list of his is 25 years old and was published as a whole little book with short histories and discographies of all of these artists: 20th Century Rock and Roll - Progressive Rock (2000). ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 05:32
I wouldn't include them. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 06:02
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All these artists would I probably include: 02. Ange (France) 03. Anglagard (Sweden) 04. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (Italy) 05. Camel (England) 07. Caravan (England) 12. Eloy (Germany) 13. Emerson, Lake & Palmer (England) 15. The Flower Kings (Sweden) 16. Focus (Holland) 18. Genesis (England) 19. Gentle Giant (England) 20. Gong (Multi-National) 25. Henry Cow (England) 26. IQ (England) 27. Jethro Tull (England) 28. Kansas (United States) 29. King Crimson (England) 30. Le Orme (Italy) 31. Magma (France) 32. Marillion (England) 33. The Moody Blues (England) 35. Mike Oldfield (England) 37. PFM (Italy) 38. Pink Floyd (England) 39. Procol Harum (England) 40. Renaissance (England) 41. Rush (Canada) 43. Spock's Beard (United States) 44. Strawbs (England) 48. Van der Graaf Generator (England) 49. Rick Wakeman (England) 50. Yes (England) and maybe a couple more. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 06:16
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Hatfield and The North should be in there. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 08:25
Not in the top 50. Maybe in the top 100 though. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 08:27
| Weird how David's list doesn't have a number one. ;) |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 13 2025 at 15:19
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Then, I agree to add Porcupine Tree Univers Zero Curved Air Nektar Frank Zappa / The Mothers Ozric Tentacles Steve Hackett ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 04:53
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Also Anekdoten Area Triana Los Jaivas Wishbone Ash Traffic Tha Alan Parsons Project Czeslaw Niemen / early SBB (Niemen was very influential and important in the pre-1989 Eastern Europe) In our choices, I think it's also important to think about whether the artists are innovative or rather derivative. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 07:58
| Still no number one. ;) |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 09:11
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David just selected those in the original list without changing the numbers, they aren't his rankings. IMHO. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 09:28
Oh ok. My bad. I wasn't paying that close attention (as usual ). I guess he doesn't like Amon Duul II and all the others that he didn't list.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 13:53
03. ANGLAGARD In the realm of Asgard, where less is more..... Anglagard were a short-lived Swedish prog band who didn't need a humungous discography to be held in high regard. Is that hubris? No, it's just Hybris. 1992: Anglagard - Hybris - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFI554_xM-I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFI554_xM-I 1994: Anglagard - Epilog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNtxBiLHkqM&t=4s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNtxBiLHkqM&t=4s  2012: Anglagard - Viljans Oga - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45uZcuMawTA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45uZcuMawTA |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 14:07
| Viljans is very good but better than Hybris and Epilog? What??? To each their own I guess. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 14 2025 at 14:31
I may have been influenced by the memorable album cover for Viljans Oga.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 01:16
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04. BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO One of the Big 3 of Italian Prog and sounding like a Sicilian bank where you know your money is secure and where they make you an offer of a loan you can't refuse. Not the TSB then. 1972: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2Mt3dp76i0MFd7L1cmIhWPKkBOoX1YIn" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2Mt3dp76i0MFd7L1cmIhWPKkBOoX1YIn 1972: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlQvlSvmbjC-peuYmnLgqpg9a_LHmzIWM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlQvlSvmbjC-peuYmnLgqpg9a_LHmzIWM 1973: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5Tm8M76rDaQRFUTaALc7RV6C1HCRpNzg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5Tm8M76rDaQRFUTaALc7RV6C1HCRpNzg 1975: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwscrFe6m30" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwscrFe6m30 1976: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Garofano Rosso - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7_OvqGQ1EGUQmc35oMcLGoqEP5bQVb9E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7_OvqGQ1EGUQmc35oMcLGoqEP5bQVb9E 1976: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Come in un Ultima Cena - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mK1RwKS71JkMEtVtyS4F_vHibJ0XJA8hk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mK1RwKS71JkMEtVtyS4F_vHibJ0XJA8hk 1976: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - As in a Last Supper - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK9Z6FZorhphI8xcw8Q_0ZpQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK9Z6FZorhphI8xcw8Q_0ZpQ 1978: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Di Terra - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nkUfWjWjWlLnv3F9B2-314EsSB7EtBhVo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nkUfWjWjWlLnv3F9B2-314EsSB7EtBhVo 1979: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Canto di Primavera - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koUpQILHqCBcXbuGp8W_6O1ZEHVCIsR1c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koUpQILHqCBcXbuGp8W_6O1ZEHVCIsR1c 1981: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Buone Notizie - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2Mt3dp76i0NHfghaB1fEuqh6pxgU68bt" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2Mt3dp76i0NHfghaB1fEuqh6pxgU68bt 1983: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2Mt3dp76i0MiK9oDJE-fbUuKLjJaHZpf" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2Mt3dp76i0MiK9oDJE-fbUuKLjJaHZpf 1985: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - E Via - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXmI7bC8Dws&list=RDCXmI7bC8Dws&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXmI7bC8Dws&list=RDCXmI7bC8Dws&start_radio=1 1989: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Donna Plautilla - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kBh7-CvrqwSaj4aJkp5YRRHhkxTdWumyo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kBh7-CvrqwSaj4aJkp5YRRHhkxTdWumyo 1993: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - La Storia - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkWpZLg-O5R5nDN4z_TzSdjB2a6yy5oxM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkWpZLg-O5R5nDN4z_TzSdjB2a6yy5oxM 1993: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - I Grandi Successi - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ls1YNzCy0uRltKzcUqHvW5aCDwIGR2dsY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ls1YNzCy0uRltKzcUqHvW5aCDwIGR2dsY 1994: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - II 13 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nq8WBk2mABiPRSjqNz_YJ-TvfvQsuwqgA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nq8WBk2mABiPRSjqNz_YJ-TvfvQsuwqgA 1997: Banco De Mutuo Soccorso - Nudo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBXYAJd70CaE9Qr0cUH96b6sVMB-xxUws" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBXYAJd70CaE9Qr0cUH96b6sVMB-xxUws 2005: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Seguendo le Tracce - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ncs0kKQBWglOwhbEzKkmeVb_Ow_nGbg8Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ncs0kKQBWglOwhbEzKkmeVb_Ow_nGbg8Q 2019: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Transiberiana - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyJqSeTsIKaQeTHrUz59itq8AWGu7Lk1U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyJqSeTsIKaQeTHrUz59itq8AWGu7Lk1U 2022: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Orlando: Le Forme Dell-Amore - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgtBSkNI79lX12qPvJ7GoSt13nO5m2ank" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgtBSkNI79lX12qPvJ7GoSt13nO5m2ank |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 04:10
Not a very good guess, but I reckon, you prefer me not to list all those artists. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 06:38
| Sorry, I am late to the party on this one; I would like to add that some artists that should be in there include Triumvirat, Passport, Colosseum, Nektar, Wallenstein |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 06:43
A nice cross-section of prog, all of which have a well-deserved place in the Top 50, but which five artists would you drop from the list to make way for your selections?
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 07:29
I would drop Grobschnitt, Styx, Henry Cow, Ange, and Caravan. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 07:53
I'm not sure what you mean by "all those artists." We don't need two identical lists if that's what you mean. You clearly listed your favorites of those and why would you leave out the others if you liked them? Or maybe you just don't like them as much? |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 08:53
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^ If you're that interested, it may be a help to see my previous posts in this thread, and I use to relate very much to the OPs. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 09:28
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I can also just tell that I've listed what I consider to be something like top 50 of the most influential and important Progressive Rock artists in the 20th century, and that using Lucky's list as a starting point. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 12:05
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05. CAMEL Camel emerged from Guildford like a Mirage with the release of their first album in 1973. The band have since gone on to become as legendary as the flight of The Snow Goose, with its annual long migration from Canada to Mexico. Their fourth album was a concept album, released at a time when the concept album was King. When record buyers listened to the final track on the album, Lunar Sea (Lunacy), they may have thought they were experiencing a temporary bout of Moonmadness, as the song played on endlessly, in what's known as the "terminal groove" effect. Camel's next critically acclaimed album had their loyal fanbase performing Rain Dances of delight and they were Breathless with anticipation for the follow-up album. Who can forget the stark image of the crucified astronaut on the cover of I Can See Your House from Here, where he's metaphorically Nude and alone in the endless depths of space. The Single Factor determining his fate is whether there's a spacecraft waiting nearby to come to the rescue, or whether he's doomed to drift endlessly through space like a Stationary Traveller, when all of his hopes will be crushed like Dust and Dreams in a Harbour of Tears. Camel had a return to form in 1999 with the release of their Rajaz album, which gave A Nod and a Wink towards their classic 1970's albums. 1973: Camel - Camel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3iRBCmFzEGg8QuVyfAUr05ilgjPWUH-5" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3iRBCmFzEGg8QuVyfAUr05ilgjPWUH-5 1974: Camel - Mirage - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrE1LA1_zjHWcWP82PPCngaH" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrE1LA1_zjHWcWP82PPCngaH 1975: Camel - The Snow Goose - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-E4oCUFb3iPPuQZ3IAh_9LpBh76MJYQU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-E4oCUFb3iPPuQZ3IAh_9LpBh76MJYQU 1976: Camel - Moonmadness - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8 1977: Camel - Rain Dances - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lACysOFHgWHq-1HaQPQl6Dat2pKlp774U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lACysOFHgWHq-1HaQPQl6Dat2pKlp774U 1978: Cemel - A Live Record - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI 1978: Camel - Breathless - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvsYXqtYjMYfMMJVy2zovBFi_KFCnZZTT" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvsYXqtYjMYfMMJVy2zovBFi_KFCnZZTT 1979: Camel - I Can See Your House from Here - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY9QnwL06xz0RACCIkp0pTOrgDBaev5Sw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY9QnwL06xz0RACCIkp0pTOrgDBaev5Sw 1981: Camel - Nude - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8 1982: Camel - The Single Factor - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmo393DXHIcCQzz57AUxynXHuBqs9FdM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmo393DXHIcCQzz57AUxynXHuBqs9FdM 1984: Camel - Stationary Traveller - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVoHLI_LXfji959PEEdKmuvju9WaAg-lX" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVoHLI_LXfji959PEEdKmuvju9WaAg-lX 1984: Camel - Pressure Points - Live in Concert - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5BFJgXr2uDDJTT-64OuQLvOo3oH47D2l" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5BFJgXr2uDDJTT-64OuQLvOo3oH47D2l 1991: Camel - Dust and Dreams - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aHHd0iIl6M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aHHd0iIl6M 1995: Camel - Harbour of Tears - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrh-PzFdu8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrh-PzFdu8 1999: Camel - Rajaz - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny 2002: Camel - A Nod and a Wink - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KNGtTa3WA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KNGtTa3WA PETER BARDENS The keyboard player with Camel throughout much of the seventies, Peter Bardens' long solo career stretches Further Than You Know. 1970: Peter Bardens - The Answer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyHE7zQoGE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyHE7zQoGE 1971: Peter Bardens - Peter Bardens 1979: Peter Bardens - Heart to Heart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTmtbAugs14" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTmtbAugs14 1987: Peter Bardens - Seen One Earth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjg5hKus44" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjg5hKus44 1988: Peter Bardens - Speed of Light - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCrW4lVNhU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCrW4lVNhU 1991: Peter Bardens - Water Colors - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lZn6_VhPF893rmCeNSE2J2rfcWD9gNZ9E" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lZn6_VhPF893rmCeNSE2J2rfcWD9gNZ9E 1993: Peter Bardens - Further Than You Know - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFcG9ddsp1fnfhT5AFDBdeTP9o7TJtUl8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFcG9ddsp1fnfhT5AFDBdeTP9o7TJtUl8 1994: Peter Bardens - Big Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l974uB5luS3aeiDTyuaiVGOjYeM-Os2Uw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l974uB5luS3aeiDTyuaiVGOjYeM-Os2Uw 2002: Peter Bardens - The Art of Levitation
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 12:07
I'll do that. Yeah, I usually don't read every page. Shame on me.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 12:10
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Ok, I actually saw most of your posts. I think all fifty bands are important and the ones you added to your own hypothetical list are important too. Of course not all bands on his list will be to everyone's taste. What I was getting at though (and still don't have an answer to) is whether you left the bands off of your rewrite list because you don't personally care for them, you don't think they are prog or you just don't like them as much as the others that did make your list. Not a big deal. I'm just curious. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 14:40
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Weird that people feel it more important to represent countries/languages than the bands that really influenced the progressive rock music WORLD (i.e. bands that had albums that reached OTHER nationalities other than their own--and generated album sales.) So, WHO WERE THE BIGGEST SELLING, MOST RADIO-PLAYED, MOST CONCERT-ATTENDED artists: the ones who affected and inspired the MOST prog musicians and prog lovers. Pop music is, after all, only made possible by capitalism and a bourgeois middle class! How can one leave off Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever, Jean-Luc Ponty, Pat Metheny, Frank Zappa, Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Billy Cobham, Kate Bush, Steve Hackett, Brian Eno, Supertramp, Klaus Schulze, Univers Zero, Death, Voivod, Atheist, Queensr˙che, Area, and more: where would Prog and MUSIC in general be without them? SERIOUSLY! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 15 2025 at 15:09
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^ Well, then if you are going down the prog metal rabbbit hole you can't leave off Dream Theater, Opeth, Pain of Salvation, Haken, Symphony X and although I don't personally know them also Fates Warning. Ok, I see DT are on the original list. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 16 2025 at 00:35
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06. CAN More popular than Heinz baked beans?! Can they be the best-known Krautrock band of all time? Yes they Can! They even reached the parts that other German bands fail to reach by having had a song in the UK Top 30 singles chart. I Want More! Can's best-known member Holger Czukay bears more than a passing resemblance to Einstein on the cover of his solo album "Der Osten ist Rot" (The East is Red) and you don't need to be an Einstein to know that Can are one of the most influential bands in the U-Bahn (or German Underground). 1969: Can - Monster Movie - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY7Asi515TO0YAZFj-ELbeS2OnAq0Mvws" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY7Asi515TO0YAZFj-ELbeS2OnAq0Mvws 1970: Can - Soundtracks - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_noscTGsQt9An66LNvqtL0HruD6ss7Vzmc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_noscTGsQt9An66LNvqtL0HruD6ss7Vzmc 1971: Can - Tago Mago - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjtxOIF4SP1lP4Jk6gCK8veiM7q5O4kSL" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjtxOIF4SP1lP4Jk6gCK8veiM7q5O4kSL 1972: Can - Ege Bamyasi - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3dEZ2fz3fb6LQ95l4IuhNbQkQD3IqZeM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3dEZ2fz3fb6LQ95l4IuhNbQkQD3IqZeM 1973: Can - Future Days - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNSQ_Da91HX54WVnscpFiyjY0BbihdYqs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNSQ_Da91HX54WVnscpFiyjY0BbihdYqs 1974: Can - Soon Over Babaluma - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EsdjBgRt6dzqlINIUCskYrnZLS0NAOu" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EsdjBgRt6dzqlINIUCskYrnZLS0NAOu 1975: Can - Landed - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_83DkCOFg-7SVvr150To8Kliywl-L_mU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_83DkCOFg-7SVvr150To8Kliywl-L_mU 1976: Can - Unlimited Edition - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_npX6AwBHlpW38Muz9Xj53THqrKOYkiyZY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_npX6AwBHlpW38Muz9Xj53THqrKOYkiyZY 1976: Can - Flow Motion - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lwEeLO6S_wsBSdldvhKVJrMtqDPwUYPYE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lwEeLO6S_wsBSdldvhKVJrMtqDPwUYPYE 1977: Can - Saw Delight - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGxyrSOjb1Kg2BmvUWgmQ4XIUaa6FI-r4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGxyrSOjb1Kg2BmvUWgmQ4XIUaa6FI-r4 1978: Can - Out of Reach - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lrWZSw-MViXZZzMqcwyNXoC2F0FdrCxvk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lrWZSw-MViXZZzMqcwyNXoC2F0FdrCxvk 1978: Can - Inner Space - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYKRd_fbqsYv2y7AeF-rkqGocLgltE4lg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYKRd_fbqsYv2y7AeF-rkqGocLgltE4lg 1981: Can - Delay 1968 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_leogW3jLFcsshlMTCaunqG3SFmUJPFZYg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_leogW3jLFcsshlMTCaunqG3SFmUJPFZYg 1989: Can - Rite Time - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNv_BqVZoOJnSL-wRVW4VZE5A99Hsbq7o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNv_BqVZoOJnSL-wRVW4VZE5A99Hsbq7o 1995: Can - The Peel Sessions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwfEzTohD8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwfEzTohD8
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