French Prog: 1st Album
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Topic: French Prog: 1st Album
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: French Prog: 1st Album
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 11:39
I had an alternative alliterative title in mind for this series of French Prog polls, but politeness and good sense prevailed.   1978: Jean-Pierre Alarcen - Jean-Pierre Alarcen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGfb2R92OHulZeVCVrEDEfjgf7PGH6JCb" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGfb2R92OHulZeVCVrEDEfjgf7PGH6JCb 1972: Ange - Caricatures - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGqNZLW4d2LVll6qE4eW5l-n-zjs1EXl8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGqNZLW4d2LVll6qE4eW5l-n-zjs1EXl8  1976: Art Zoyd 3 - Symphonie pour le Jour - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vkxhq68A-w&list=RD_Vkxhq68A-w&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vkxhq68A-w&list=RD_Vkxhq68A-w&start_radio=1  1979: Asia Minor - Crossing the Line - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYUU-u2QQq9DEvrYbGL_yCpnhfzOCYars" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYUU-u2QQq9DEvrYbGL_yCpnhfzOCYars 1978: Christian Boule - Photo Musik - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b_lgLkYgjA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b_lgLkYgjA 1975: Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2K-fx3uoeo&list=RDW2K-fx3uoeo&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2K-fx3uoeo&list=RDW2K-fx3uoeo&start_radio=1 1982: Jean Michel Desbouis - Prince - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JutX_ziHXM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JutX_ziHXM 1976: Andre Fertier's Clivage - Regina Astris - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfcptwfsHcY&list=RDMfcptwfsHcY&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfcptwfsHcY&list=RDMfcptwfsHcY&start_radio=1 1974: Harmonium - Harmonium - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-4ZB4kYBtbfhE4mkTzX9ozmuLTkwQLc8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-4ZB4kYBtbfhE4mkTzX9ozmuLTkwQLc8  1974: Heldon - Electronique Guerrilla - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_aoKu1zO9fZSIf9soX0Dd2HrhnejXiMI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_aoKu1zO9fZSIf9soX0Dd2HrhnejXiMI 1972: Jean Michel Jarre - Deserted Palace - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAC95B32592AAB8CB" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAC95B32592AAB8CB 1970: Magma -Kobaia - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEm46t1WfHpIzyKm7WRNFB4oGoZiBYH2z" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEm46t1WfHpIzyKm7WRNFB4oGoZiBYH2z 1979: Didier Malherbe - Bloom 1975: Maneige - Maneige - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tVIPVLG5LQ&list=RD8tVIPVLG5LQ&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tVIPVLG5LQ&list=RD8tVIPVLG5LQ&start_radio=1 1970: Alain Markusfeld - Le Monde en Etages - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4VoigXJIs&list=RDVc4VoigXJIs&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4VoigXJIs&list=RDVc4VoigXJIs&start_radio=1 1988: Minimum Vital - Les Saisons Marines - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nu-rdN5kVKxqFer4vdDbbnGEMQrOpmhhQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nu-rdN5kVKxqFer4vdDbbnGEMQrOpmhhQ 1971: Moving Gelatine Plates - Moving Gelatine Plates - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lcyR8RvLW41ztn8ou18nHE1wbkOoT8GPM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lcyR8RvLW41ztn8ou18nHE1wbkOoT8GPM 1975: Pulsar - Pollen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nptTyJye84agL5j_yBKh8WzjA4h5czoEs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nptTyJye84agL5j_yBKh8WzjA4h5czoEs 1969: Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes - Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nxdkHs7yFF7QYyiUBz_zWW2RkBnQ8E4Oo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nxdkHs7yFF7QYyiUBz_zWW2RkBnQ8E4Oo 1972: Sandrose - Sandrose - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH-Z9W9MZCGESdNDR_WKt20KuCohHixLv" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH-Z9W9MZCGESdNDR_WKt20KuCohHixLv 1984: Shub Niggurath - Shub Niggurath - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruth7e4w_dY&list=RDruth7e4w_dY&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruth7e4w_dY&list=RDruth7e4w_dY&start_radio=1 2000: Taal - Mister Green - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFhWeMESXzMcRGYNtHHfxIDuji_Z_QdaQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFhWeMESXzMcRGYNtHHfxIDuji_Z_QdaQ 1988: Christian Vander - To Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZfcyy-B6KVQm6zdHymVOZLQXecVv8rmI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZfcyy-B6KVQm6zdHymVOZLQXecVv8rmI 1996: XII Alphonso - The Lost Frontier - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjh0YfJnak&list=RDHTjh0YfJnak&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjh0YfJnak&list=RDHTjh0YfJnak&start_radio=1 1976: Zanov - Green Ray - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfS3goKv89I&list=RDbfS3goKv89I&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfS3goKv89I&list=RDbfS3goKv89I&start_radio=1
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 11:56
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From that lot: Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis. ------------- "Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 12:41
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Shub Niggurath. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 12:51
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Harmonium (74) is from Quebec, Canada So is Maneige. Too many outstanding stuff to vote, anyways.  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 12:53
I knew that, and so are French-Canadians Maneige.
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Sean Trane wrote:Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 12:56
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I rarely find something that beats Art Zoyd in a poll where they feature, but Bloom is just such a great, underrated album! (Many other good ones here, Clearlight, Kobaia, Pollen, Shub Niggurath...) ------------- I make typos so you see I'm not a machine, but I may be a machine pretending to not be a machine. |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 13:46
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Moving Gelatine Plates ahead of Taal and Pulsar. ------------- 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 14:59
Coming up in the second French Prog poll: Pierre Moerlen's Gong and Jean-Luc Ponty. 
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Posted By: Starfighter
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 15:15
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No Weidorje or Eskaton? If it was up to me I'd pick Poil, but from your list I'd say Heldon. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 17:53
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^ Eskaton and Weidorje are awesome, but plenty I love in this list with Art Zoyd, Clearlight, Clivage, Heldon, Magma, Moving Gelatine Plates, Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes, Shub-Niggurath, Zanov and others I like. That said, it's an easy vote for the 2 star greatness of Kobaia. That is my favourite Magma album and what I consider to be one of the most outstanding debuts that I have heard. It's audacious as: a double-album with its own mythology and its own lexicon. To me it's so far above what the vast majority of others under the Prog umbrella put out as debuts in terms of being ambitious and adventurous and just bloody great to these ears. I don;t think Magma ever beat it. Even though ones like Harmonium, Pollen and Maneige are from French Canada, I would not have expected them. Magma is from France via Kobaia sort-of maybe. Anyway, Kobaïan hhaï cause it is so hundin, and vive la musique progressive français. By the way, when I joined PA I think France was my favourite country for music, and Quebec rules for me in terms of Canadian music. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 19:57
I agree my friend! At least on the MGP pick. Love that record! Ange is my runnerup. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 20:23
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Art Zoyd > MGP ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 22:20
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Heldon – Electronique Guerrilla Clearlight – Clearlight Symphony Art Zoyd – Symphonie pour le Jour Zanov – Green Ray Minimum Vital – Les Saisons Marines ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 23:43
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1. Asia Minor - Crossing the Line 2. Sandrose - Sandrose 3. Pulsar - Pollen 4. Jean Michel Desbouis - Prince 5. Christian Boule - Photo Musik 6. Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: August 08 2025 at 02:49
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Harmonium - Harmonium Pulsar - Pollen Maneige - Maneige |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 08 2025 at 05:06
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Harmonium, followed by Asia Minor. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 08 2025 at 11:37
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Harmonium is Canadian. Shub Niggurath here ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 08 2025 at 12:35
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Tai Phong - s/t from 1975 still has a special place in my heart. ------------- 
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 08 2025 at 23:44
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I don't have any reason to complain really, as there are plenty of albums I love here. But lncluding French-Canadian artists in a French poll is like including American bands that has members of British heritage in a UK-poll isn't it? I'm quite certain you wouldn't have done that. And there's not exactly any lack of bands from France that could have been considered/included instead. + an actual French-Canadian poll would have been interesting too. Five, or close to five star albums: Magma - Kobaia Moving Gelatine Plates - Moving Gelatine Plates Zanov - Green Ray Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis - Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis (there was no + Alpes yet) Art Zoyd 3 - Symphonie pour le Jour* Andre Fertier's Clivage - Regina Astris Shub Niggurath - Shub Niggurath Also great: Jean Michel Desbouis - Prince Heldon - Electronique Guerrilla Ange - Caricatures Quite like these too: Jean-Pierre Alarcen - Jean-Pierre Alarcen Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony Pulsar - Pollen *the 1980 re-recording has ended up my go-to version. If this was the only one I've knew of the two, it would have been placed higher |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 02:19
we can easily think of the word you imagoned rhyming with prog and blog, just like you had done for your Dutch clog prog blog.  thx for abstaining  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 03:15
Baguette Prog, or Frog Prog? ------------- "Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 03:35
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 03:38
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 03:40
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I'm reminded of the tourist who remarked upon seeing the big tower in Paris for the first time - "Blimey that's an eyeful!". ------------- "Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 03:45
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 05:08
Indeed.... in the 60's/70's/80's, when being insufferably snobby, Québécois would call you "Maudit Français". and given that the majority of Belgians (or Swiss) don't have the French language as their mother tongue... ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 07:56
^ I always thought French-Canadians were proud of their French heritage. That's why they insist on speaking French to English speakers who don't understand French. 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 09 2025 at 10:13
They're very proud of their form of French and their accent (this was part of the Quebec cultural revolution - started by Robert Charlebois qith his album Quebec Love in 66/67. Later on, this pride became part of the Sovereignty crisis (independance) with Harmonium being politically involved (read the double-meaning lyrics in some songs). Now their political insistance on the use of French takes birth in the economic dominance of the Montreal English-speaking minority - who spoke it (some rather well) but relunctantly so. Trouble is that their accent is very heavy and usually made fun of in the old world and the French can't help feeling superior, which frowned upon by any non-French francophone (Swiss and some Belgian regions have also strong accent, as do some french provinces in the south). The Maudit Français insult can be read as "Parisians snobs", though it runs deeper than that, refering to France's abandon of their French colonies in North Am (from Acadia/New Brunswick to Missouri to Louisiana) to finance the wars in Europe. While the 50/60/70's chansonniers from Québec (read singer/songwriters) toured across the planet, very few Québécois prog group toured Europe: there was Offenbach (and later Corbeau), Séguin, Harmonium (opening for Supertramp), but that's pretty well it. I don't think Maneige or Octobre ever did. . ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |