If DT covered a Genesis Album...
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Topic: If DT covered a Genesis Album...
Posted By: The Letter M
Subject: If DT covered a Genesis Album...
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:13
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So if DT were to cover a Genesis album as part of Portnoy's 5 "planned" album covers (the first three of which were Metallica's Master Of Puppets, Iron Maiden's Number Of The Beast, and recently Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon), which Genesis' 15 albums would they cover?
I would say Wind & Wuthering, and for very many good reasons. The album itself sounds heavier, IMO, than ATOTT, which has a lot of slower/ballad type songs (Entangled, Mad Man Moon, Ripples). W&W has some harder/heavier music with the likes of Eleventh Earl of Mar, One For The Vine, and plenty of instrumental goodness. There are plenty of parts in the album for each member to shine (and I think the keyboard parts/solos are very fitting for Jordan, although ATOTT's Robbbery, Assault & Battery keyboard solo would sound awesome...). So which album would you pick? As a prediction, I'm willing to bet that ATOTT, SEBTP and Foxtrot will probably end up with a majority of the votes, but I still stick with W&W! -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:36
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My favourite is Foxtrot, but they'd probably have more fun with the
Lamb. Unfortunately, I don't think they're going to get to Genesis.
There's no way they don't do a Rush album and for the fifth, Yes would
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:41
IMAGINE JAMES LABRIE SINGING I CANT DANCE  ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:43
They would most likely cover Selling England by the Pound since that is wehat most people say is the essential Genesis album plus I think its their favorite one too! 
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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:44
| Before they started their Pink Floyd cover thet biuldt up the tension by playing several intro's from "classic" rock albums, 2112 was one of them. I think they are more likely to cover that one then anything by Genesis. |
Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:49
Or even Mama?? ------------- ...this is called....BleedingGum ... ! |
memowakeman wrote:Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:54
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I would like to see them cover The Lamb... -------------  |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 15:56
| Dark Side of the Moon is such a lazy pick for an album to cover, as is Master of Puppets come to think of it. |
Posted By: MegaMoog
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 16:37
I would love to see them do Suppers Ready
------------- Where Can I Get A Moog biscuit?  
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 17:18
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Id bet that they would do Foxtrot because of the importance of Suppers Ready, along with CTTE one of the truly genre defining epics. It would also be cool to hear wht they do with Apocalypse In 9/8 ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 17:24
I think it would sound bloody awful whichever one they did... 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 18:16
Foxtrot is my favorite album of all time, and DT are one of my favorite bands, so I'd love to hear that ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 19:38
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I think some people are confusing the question. It's not "Which album would YOU LIKE them to cover", it's "Which album do YOU THINK they would cover", meaning, if it's an album you like, do you think they'll cover it? If so, why?
With my choice, I gave some pretty good reasons why they would choose that album. Also, it was one of the three albums they mentioned during the Live Scenes From New York DVD commentary, the other two being Lamb and Trick. They called them very good albums, and it's why I think, of those three, they'd pick W&W. Foxtrot would be my second guess/choice that they would play if it wasn't W&W. Supper's Ready would be great to hear, and fitting for this tour since they even mention Supper's Ready in III. Full Circle (from the song, Octavarium). -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 20:01
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Selling England By The Pound would be the best choice, IMO ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 22:49
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I don't believe DT would like to cover a whole Genesis album, they are agressive, so they should go with the hardest and most Hard Rock oriented songs, if they cover SEBTP, they would sink with More Fool Me (Well, anybody sinks with that song) and I don't believe Petrucci would work the guitar solo as Hackett did on Firth of Fifth. My songlist would be:
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 22:51
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I prefer Nursery Crime, but the will choose SEBTP for sure. ------------- We were always be much human than we whish to be. |
Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 23:56
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I can't imagine LaBrie singing Battle of Epping Forest (my God... would be a disaster! Then, I prefer imagine they makin W&W, because IMO, is a work with a hard feeling, but dominated by keyboards. How it would sound with the heavy guitar of Petrucci?
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And the drums of Portnoy in the middle section of One for the Vine
? And LaBrie singing Afterglow
? And the bass of Myung replacing Rutherford
? Well, this would be very interesting...Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 00:48
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yes... sorry but i would`nt like DT playing any song for Selling England... is untouchable for any band Maybe wind and wuthering will be a better option ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Garbs
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:11
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Sorry guys but I wouldn't like to see Dream Theater cover any Genesis albums. If Portnoy was serious about doing a Genesis album in full then I suggest he re-form Transatlantic and have a go at Foxtrot. ------------- So here I am once more |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:18
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The idea is a hideous one. It cant and MUST never happen.. Although I guess DT could vastly improve Invisible Touch ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Garbs
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:25
Yes, they could do a cracking version of "Throwing It All Away" ------------- So here I am once more |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:28
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I'm afraid you're right EDIT: Well, no. I think they'd nail "Calling All Stations" quite well (and it's quite a good album IMO) ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:35
..and I would look forward to hearing their rendition of that well known prog classic 'Anything she does'.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:46
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Why have three people vote that they would never cover Genesis, they already have coverd Turn It On Again on A Change Of Seasons, part of The Big Medley, and that song proves that there is nothing that they wouldnt cover, and do it well. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:58
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As a matter of fact, I think DT are a great cover band.... the problem arises when they play their own material! The covers on "A Change of Season", in my humble opinion, are the best thing on the album, especially "Perfect Strangers". As to their covering Genesis, I agree with those who say SEBTP is not suited to their style at all. I voted for "A Trick of the Tail", which to my mind strikes the right balance between rockier and mellower tracks.
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Posted By: Garbs
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:23
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DT are primarily a prog-metal outfit and are much more suited to covering Metallica/Maiden (as they have done) than the atmospheric prog of Genesis. It just wouldn't work in my opinion. ------------- So here I am once more |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 11:34
I still reckon they could do Suppers Ready right and they are great at the atmospher when they put there backs into it. BTW whats your avatar? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 12:17
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with mint sauce? Or is the poor thing feeling the cold? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: VanBuren
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 12:21
| I don't want to even think about it, that would ruin all beauty in Genesis music, I mean there would be mass overplaying on the drums with no sutleties, the keyboard sounds would all be crappy 80s' tones, Petrucci would want to solo the entire time....it would be disgusting |
Posted By: Solids2k
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 12:27
They also played the opening sample from 'The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway', so who knows?
Have you heard their cover of 'Dark Side of the Moon'? They remain very faithful to the original version without going over the top, in fact they did it just about note for note correctly; though for some reason the intro to Money was played on guitar. As far as the original question, I'd imagine they'd do either 'Foxtrot' or 'The Lamb'; though I'd wish for Selling England if only to hear their take on 'The Cinema Show' and 'Firth of Fifth'. One could only dream. |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 13:13
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If DT = Dream Theater, let's hope the idea never sees the cold light of day. They'd just butcher and massacre Genesis' music with their heavyhanded, beligerent style...
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Posted By: Ray Lomas
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 13:28
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I think they could cover Nursery Cryme. There are some heavier numbers
(Musical Box, Hogweed) on that one and it would be intresting to
see/hear DT:s version on them. Allthough it is a bit hard to imagine LaBrie singing Harold The Barrel. |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 15:04
Actually, DT = Dream Theater, so the idea will probably come up sooner or later. :) -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: Garbs
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 06:17
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They could maybe do it - I just don't think they are the right type of band to carry it off. My avatar is the cover of the Marillion single "Assassing". ------------- So here I am once more |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 06:41
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Id like to see Dream Theater do pawn hearts or octopus ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 07:54
| I'd like to hear Dream Theater play something original. |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 12:57
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Who out there nowadays are like Van Der Graff Generator? I mean dual keyboards, reedman and a drummer?
I am bringing back this thread because the thought of someone covering a entire album by one of the prog greats is quite intriguing to me, especially Dream Theater. Like the Neo-Psychedelic/Progressive rock band Phish they would often cover entire albums live, and I remember reading that the band had often considered doing one of three Genesis albums: Selling England By The Pound, Abacab and A Trick Of A Tail, but when the band rehearsed a few of the songs they found out how difficult Genesis' often mistakely simple sounding songs really are... Of all the albums that DT would cover from Genesis, I think A Trick of A Tail would be the album suited for the band one, and they would also agree on that point themselves....
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 13:02
They did a rather good version of Dark Side Of The Moon 
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: TheLamb
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 15:26
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I'd like to hear them covering Firth of Firth... Would probably sound great with that typical "Prog Metal sound" of Dream Theater... Just think of John Petrucci playing that Guitar solo from Firth of Firth... Dosent that thought just make you salivate with joy?
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Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:33
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I wonder if DT ever thought about doing Camel's Moonmadness ? Labrie singing will be kept to a minimum and the band can play to their hearts content.... Imagine what thse guys would sound like re-doing "Lunar Sea"?
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:51
The very thought appalls me. The only band that should cover Moonmadness is........ well Camel, actually. DT would make a total mess of it; the thought of Petrucci & co trying to play with the sublety and emotion of Latimer i& co is horrific. Similarly, leave Genesis to do their songs; they do them better than anyone. DT should stick to their own material. They play that better than anyone else could. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:13
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haha, none of them... Whats up with Dream Theater trying to do everything and play everything and master everything... ah ... the fame... such a deadly emotion |
Posted By: -bp-
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:52
agreed.------------- 
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 22:48
I agree 100% Them covering Dark Side of the Moon was enough, in my opinion. ------------- 
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Posted By: Darth Nisis
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 23:01
That songs are very suitable for dt, that covers would be awesome, They would have a lot of problems with the beginning of Cinema Show, for ex, or with some ballads. But this songlist is amazing and I hope that they would cover Genesis on Monday 4, here in Argentina. |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 11:41
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Bling... ------------- G'day |
Posted By: Vertigo
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 11:42
| THE LAMB !!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Rael72
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 12:55
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There's no way I ever want to hear James LaBrie butchering a Genesis song. I'd buy it anyway, though... ------------- My grip must be flipping Cos his handshake keeps slipping My hopes keep on dipping And his lips keep on smiling all the time |
Posted By: Deliriumist
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 13:05
| The only one I can imagine is "Selling England..." |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 13:10
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Dream Theater is just too heavy for the style of Genesis. They'd ruin the very qualities that make Genesis' music special.
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Posted By: Genesisprog
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 13:30
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Nursery Cryme --Imagine them playing musical box ------------- Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all ! |
Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 14:27
I hope this will never happen!...expecially for LaBrie's voice..I can't stand his vocal manierism
------------- La Speranza della coscienza è forza La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù La Speranza del corpo è malattia (G.I. Gurdjieff) |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 14:33
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Hmmm?????
Imagine them covering Roxy Music's For Your Pleasure?
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 20:58
maybe.... maybe not if I choice I'd like to see them do, Nursury Cryme. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: hey_timj
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 21:05
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Dream Theatre shouldn't cover anyone. Dream Theatre shouldn't
even cover Dream Theatre. |