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Topic: Metal!
Posted By: walrus333
Subject: Metal!
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 18:23
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Ok basically I want to educate myself on more genres of metal other than prog-metal so if you guys could list some "definative/classic" albums for these genres of metal: Power Metal Thrash Metal Brutal Death Melodic Death Folk Metal Gothic Metal Classic Metal( I have some Zepplin, I am thinking of getting some Sabbath what cd should I get) Thanks for your help ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 18:37
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Here's some of my favorite metal masterpieces´: Thrash and related:
Sort of Power (proto-Power):
Death Metal:
Power Metal:
These are all essential ...
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Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 20:38
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thanks i have the metallica already, I will get the others ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: Xymphony
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 22:40
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Try these, hope (almost sure ;) ) you won't regret:
POWER or HEAVY (may be some prog) Royal Hunt: Fear, Paradox Kamelot:The Fourth Legacy, Karma, Black Halo Angra: Temple Of Shadows, Rebirth Bruce Dickinson: The Cemical Wedding, Accident Of Birth, Balls To Picasso, Tyranny Of Souls (all highly recommended) As For Folk Metal: Einherjer is good, can't remember which allbums. And Borknagar - Quintessence is great.
Did you listen to Symphony X? My favourite band. The Divine Wings Of Tragedy is a great power prog album by them. The Odyssey is some sort of Thrash - Prog - Power, also amazing. My favourite album is "V, The New Mythology Suite", absolute masterpiece. (If you 're into prog metal, you should have listened them)
Melodic Death: Try "In Flames" - The Jester Race , and Whoracle or Moonspell - Wolfheart
If you like to try Melodic Black, i advise "Cradle Of Filth" - Cruelty And The Beast
As For Thrash Metal, absolutely get Megadeth - Rust In Peace! total classic
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Posted By: Destrio
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 00:39
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Folk Metal - Finntroll, Wintersun Death Metal - Opeth, Cryptopsy, Death Black metal - Ulver, Emperor, Burzum Power Metal - Sonata Arctica, Hammerfall, Sinergy Children of Bodom are also very good, dunno where to put thme though |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 02:09
Can anybody recommend some Folk Metal bands that aren't predominantly black metal? I know of the following - Skyclad, Cruachan, Elvenking, Wuthering Heights, and Tuatha de Dannan. Any others out there worth investigating? ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Destrio wrote:Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 02:27
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^ Try those in the Doom/Dark or Orchestral/Gothic section of my chart. http://uneasy-listening.com/ProgMetal.html - http://uneasy-listening.com/ProgMetal.html Many of them have Folk influences. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 06:13
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Death Metal wise, you definitely should check out Nile, imo the best death metal band in the world. Their music is egyptian-themed and brutal as heck. Best place to start would be "In Their Darkened Shrines", "Black Seeds of Vengeance" or their latest release "Annihilation of the Wicked". Other death metal greats: Behemoth - "Thelema 6" and "Demigod" Akercocke - "Choronzon" I'd also recommend the latest Enslaved album, "Isa", even though it's more black/viking metal.. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 22:57
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I'm not much of a fan of melodic death, but really the one band i like is Dark Tranquillity. I suggest you check out their album "The Gallery". For the brutal stuff i would recommend Psycroptic's "Sceptre of the Ancients", Nile's "In Their Darkened Shrines" and Morbid Angel's "Blessed Are The Sick" (pretty old school sounding, but i don't like their latter material). If you want some more interesting (and harder to swallow) death metal i'll suggest Demilich's "Nespithe" (which you can find for free on their website) or Gorguts' "Obscura". |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 02:20
Get anything from Moonsorrow! An absolutely fantastic band, the best Folk/Viking/Pagan metal band in the world. At times very heavy! 
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Posted By: theagoloco
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 06:42
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hi everyone ! Please visit my band's website : http://www.bloomred.com - www.bloomred.com MP3 available ! ------------- Theago Loco |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 16:10
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Power Metal
Thrash Metal
Gothic Metal
Classic Metal (Sabbath)
Thanks for your help
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 16:45
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Recommended Albums - these are albums that absolutely defined the genres and generally go an extra mile or two: Power Metal - Riot : Narita, Skid Row : Slave to the Grind Thrash Metal - Metallica : Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, Slayer : Reign in Blood, Sacred Reich : Ignorance, Megadeth : Killing is my Business And Business Is Good, Anthrax : Spreading the Disease I don't know about Brutal or Melodic Death Metal, but it all started with Death : Scream Bloody Gore Folk Metal - Is there such a thing? Gothic Metal - Cradle of Filth : Midian - every other Goth Metal band I've ever heard has just seemed watered down in comparison, and Midian is more progressive than most of the Prog Metal in the archives, IMO. Maybe I just like them because they're so progressive
Classic Metal - Now we're talking; 1st generation Heavy Metal - High Tide : Sea Shanties, Led Zeppelin : II, Black Sabbath : Black Sabbath Mid period Metal - Judas Priest : Sad Wings of Destiny, Stained Class, Pink Fairies : Kings of Oblivion, Groundhogs : Split, Motorhead : On Parole NWOBHM - AC/DC : Back in Black, Black Sabbath : Heaven and Hell, Motorhead : Ace of Spades, Scorpions : Lovedrive, Iron Maiden : Number of the Beast, Diamond Head : Living on Borrowed Time, Raven : All for One... and hundreds of other classics!
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 17:31
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Power - Edguy (Hellfire Club) Melodic Death - Children of Bodom (HateBreeder), Norther (Dreams of endless War), In Flames (Reroute To Remain) Thrash - Megadeth (Countdown To Extinction) heavy - Iron Maiden (7th Son of a 7th Son, Brave New World) gothic - Paradise Lost (Icon, Draconian Times)
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Posted By: Strik9
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 13:12
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Death and Thrash are my main musical loves so here's some off the top of my head: Death Metal, Technical Death Metal, Death/Grind and Death/Thrash Death, Cryptopsy, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Asphyx, early Cancer, Napalm Death, Immolation, Malevolent Creation, Sadus, Obituary, early Carcass.... Thrash Metal Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Dark Angel, 80's Metallica, Annihilator, Kreator, Exodus, Testament, Overkill, Xentrix, Death Angel, Nuclear Assault, Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D..... Some of the bigger names and some more obscure bands to get a newbie started imo. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 13:52
Ha! Your ignorance amuses me. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 14:48
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Power metal - can't really help you there, but IMO Dragonforce really seem to love what they do and you can hear it in their music Thrash metal - Master of Puppets, Rust in Peace are great recommendations. You can also try Exodus - "Bonded by Blood". Slayer's "Reign in Blood" is sort of half-way thrash/death and an extremely infulential album, but IMO it is also extremely boring. Brutal death - don't get "Scream Bloody Gore" (sorry Cert), it's a good album, but it's not really death metal. Actually the only brutal death album from Death is "Leprosy" (recommended). Strik9 gave you some excellent recommendations above, but just to specify the very best: Morbid Angel - "Altars of Madness", "Formulas Fatal to the Flesh" (actually the only MA album to avoid is "Heretic") Suffocation - "Effigy of the Forgotten" (probably the best songs in brutal death metal, beg, steal to get it) Cryptopsy - "None so Vile" Immolation - "Close to a World Below" Gorguts - "Obscura" (the last three are absolutely insane) Melodic death - Carcass - "Heartwork", also At the Gates, Opeth, early In Flames and early Edge of Sanity Folk metal - In Extremo Gothic metal - Type O Negative (quite a tongue-in-cheek band, but musically supreme, start with "World Coming Down", "October Rust" and "Bloody Kisses") Some gothic-influenced bands in the archives - Lacrimosa and Anathema Also Paradise Lost (although they're pure gothic metal only from "One Second" onwards and "Host" is a Depeche Mode-style album) and maybe early Theatre of Tragedy Also why not try doom metal? It's a very rich genre, one I've only begun to explore and I love it so far... some examples - (raw but beautiful) My Dying Bride (everything), Morgion "Solinari", Esoteric (raw but catchy) Candlemass (everything, especially "Nightfall"), early Cathedral, Solitude Aeternus (raw but... erm, raw, very raw) Burning Witch, Khanate, Wormphlegm, Worship (unfortunately albums by these bands are very hard to get) Enjoy EDIT: How could I have forgotten black metal
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:49
 - btw, your suggestions are so UN-TRUE  .. Mayhem is totally mainstream . I'd recommend something totally UG like Infernum's Taur-nu-fuin or Clandestine Blaze's Fist of the Northern Destroyer. No, but seriously.. the 5 essential (but not the best .. ) black metal albums are as follows.. Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas Satyricon - Nemesis Divina Ulver - Nattens Madrigal |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 16:40
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Ed said :
Thrash - Megadeth (Countdown To Extinction) Please, do not tell me you think this one is better than Rust In Peace ! Topic, Machine Head-Burn My Eyes ( absolute must have ) |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 20:01
| I'd say you're better off skipping the Machine Head stuff (which I find quite mediocre and boring) and go straight to the band's immediate predecessor, VIO-LENCE. They just reissued the band's first two albums... much more technical songwriting, and the vocals are much more interesting as well. |
Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:04
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Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming. @Manukind I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder. Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out? ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: Xymphony
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:54
Yes. I advise "At The Heart Of Winter" and "Damned In Black" albums. They are really really cool... |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 00:05
Two good albums. There are so many Black metal bands (and most are not very good or innovative). I would recommend: Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia, Moon In The Scorpio and The Ultimate Death Worship Diabolical Masquerade - Death's Design, Nightwork and Ravendusk In My Heart Negura Bunget - 'N Crugu Bradului and Maiastru Sfetnic 1349 - Beyond The Apocalypse Akercocke (mix of Black and Death metal) - Choronzon, The Goat of Mendes Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro and Domine Non Es Dignus There are more good bands but this will suffice for now ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 01:21
Type-O is a fabulous band, I have been into them for many years. Howver, I would disagree with these recommendations. Start with Bloody Kisses, then Life is Killing Me, Origin of the Feces, and October Rust (World Coming Down is, in fact, my least fav of their albums). Bloody Kisses is probably the crowning masterpiece of gothic metal. brilliant songs and composition, with a touch of dark humor that's impossible to beat. their cover of Summer Breeze is great and quite funny, but there are many amazing songs on that album. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 02:45
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Thrash: Anthrax-Spreading the Disease,Among the Living Metallica-Kill em All,Ride the Lightning,Master of Puppets Megadeth-Pease Sells...but Who's Buying?,Rust in Peace Slayer-Hell Awaits,Reign in Blood,South of Heaven Stormtroopers of Death-Speak English or Die Sacred Reich-Ignorance,American Way Death Angel-Act III Exodus-Bonded by Blood,Fabulous Disaster Nuclear Assault-Survive,Handle with Care Overkill-The Years of Decay Metal Church-Metal Church,Blessing in Disguise,Human Factor Testament-The Legacy,The New Order,The Ritual -------------  |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 03:20
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Since I'd say the classics have been pretty well established, here are some of my personal faves. Power Metal: Thrash Metal: Brutal Death: Melodic Death: Black Metal: Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk Anaal Nathrakh - Total f**king Necro Ulver - Bergtatt, Nattens Madrigal Burzum - Filosofem Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors (not really black metal, but generally classified as such) Some albums which don't really fit clearly under any single subgenre (all listed on PA, but none of them are prog-metal in the Dream Theater sense): Meshuggah - Catch 33 Maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map Cynic - Focus |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 04:01
Absolutely. What a great band. |
Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 06:50
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Some personal black metal favourites: Enslaved - anything really, but "Mardraum" stands out for me. Their newest album, "ISA" is even better, but doesn't really fit the "black" label. Old Man's Child - Ill-Natured Spiritual Invasion Windir - Arntor, 1184 Morgul - The horror grandeur Rakoth - Planeshift (Russian band, great stuff) Thorns - Thorns And I second Immortal, especially "At the Heart of Winter". ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 09:45
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I must admit that yours pisses me off. I didn't know IQs went that low. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:00
 - it's not that big a deal..
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:21
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My point exactly. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:42
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Get these!!
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 05:25
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Good suggestions - although first get well acquainted with Emperor, Mayhem, Satyricon etc. and THEN ONLY get Darkthrone and Ulver's "Nattens Madrigal" (really uncompromising stuff, maybe a bit too uncompromising) And everyone, sorry for not responding earlier, I had some major issues with the Internet over the last few days and couldn't even log out! ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Goblinisgod
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:16
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For death if you're a fan of prog is sacriligious to ignore Athiest's Unquestionable Prescence. Very proggy and Jazzy. Try to get the reissue. Immolation, Cryptopsy, Gorguts, Death and Morbid Angel I heartily endorse. I didn't like the new Nile album because it soundedl ike all the albums they'd done before. Power Metal: I find most power metal to be nothing but 5th rate Iron Maiden ripoffs so the 2 bands I reccommend to you are Virgin Steele (very epic concept albums) and Manilla Road (who coined the term Epic Metal) and Manowar are worth it for the pure cheese factor. Thrash: Death Angel (technical as f**k!) Dark Angel-Darkness Descends (makes Reign in Blood sound like the Beatles) Black Metal: Enslaved: This band has been progressive their entire career and they're no longer BM really Nargaroth-Herbsleytd. One of the greatest BM releases ever. Emperor: Everything up to Anthems... After this I stopped listening to them but if all you care about is technicality over songwriting, then the more recent stuff you will like. Inquisition: Into The Infernal REgions of the Ancient Cult. This album really reminds me of the atmosphere I felt when I fearst heard stuff like De Mysteriis... and Nargaroth. Forgotten Woods: Mistakenly labelled as Burzum rip-offs. Very epic compositions Limbonic Art-Moon in the Scorpio. One of the very few "symphonic" BM albums that doesn't suck goat excrement. If you want more recommendations, I *ahem* reccomend you listen to my radio show friday nights
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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:19
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I always thought this album was a tad bit overrated... it is sloppy and a lot of the songs tend to run on into each other. In my opinion, Dark Angel hit their peak with the technical and complex masterpiece, Time Does Not Heal, which some days I would even swear is the best thrash album ever written. |
Posted By: Goblinisgod
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:34
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I forgot to mention Doom-Metal my favourite style. yoou can check www.doom-metal.com since its the authority. For Traditional Doom: Pentagram (US) started out the same time as Sabbath Solitude Aeternus (Rob Lowe is an incredible vocalist) Candlemass (The Doom Gods) Reverend Bizarre (Heavier and more sarcastic than most Trad Doom Bands. Crazy Finns  ) Trouble (Very good musically but extremely preachy christian metal though) Cathedral (essential band regardless of style they're playing) Goat Snake-Essentially blues based Metal. One of the millions of projects involving the great Stephen O'Malley and Greg Anderson Stoner Electric Wizard Sleep (sounded like Sabbath clones until they did Jerusalem/Dopesmoker. A 52/60 minute single track epic) YOB (Weird vocals but very heavy) Doom-Death: Winter (started it all) Disembowelment (faster than most Doom bands. Very atmospheric) My Dying Bride (essential) Anathema, Katatonia and Paradise Lost (early stuff is essential for these 3 bands. Katatonia is the only one worth listening to now as PLst are 10th Depeche Mode ripoffs and Anathema are 5th Radiohead ripoffs) The Prophecy-Modern Doom Death with lots of variation in the songwriting and harmonic guitar leads. One of the more exciting bands to listen to. Dusk (underrated and obscure, but very good) Aphotic (Ibid. More dissonant than Dusk) Morgion (one of my favourite bands, now sadly disbanded. But the last 2 albums they did (Solinair and Cloaked by Ages...) are amazing Funeral Doom Skepticism-listen to this at your funeral Unholy-Very weird and hard to listen to Esoteric-one of the most incredible listening experiences of any genre awaits you with these misanthropic Brits Thergothon-Finnish fathers of the genre. Very underproduced and ugly sounding. Fhtgan Nagh Yog Sothoth indeed Until Death Overtakes Me-More charming funeral music. A bit too repetitive at times however Drone Earth-Fathers of the genre Sunn O)))- Started out as a Earth (!) homage, now evolved into something more interesting. Another of O'Malley's bands Khanate-This is sick music, very challenging. Another of O'Malley's bands. Check out Burning Witch first as its among the same lines but older and therefore less challening. Trollman Av Ildtopberg-Haunting |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:46
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------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 08:53
| ^Goblin , do you know Swallow the Sun? |
Posted By: Sam Fire
Date Posted: November 16 2005 at 19:15
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I heartily endorse the frequent listening and observation of their album "The Ultra-Violence," in large and loud quantities! Check out Death's Live in LA album. Very raw and powerful, I prefer it to their studio work. And definately get some DragonForce, even if just for Herman Li's insane guitar pyrotechnics. Also, another interesting black metal band is the American group Windham Hell. Get "Reflective Depths Imbibe," it a fantastic album. ------------- THE DEMON CODE PREVENTS ME FROM DECLINING A ROCK-OFF CHALLENGE!!! |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 07:56
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Where's the black metal in it? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 08:01
Nice album ... but I think that Act III is much better. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Sam Fire
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 12:53
Okay, so "black metal" is perhaps a bit of a misnomer, its more like, uh, ambient, neo-classical, um, metal, uh, with, um... whatever, it's still good!
Er, I only have "The Ultra-Violence" ------------- THE DEMON CODE PREVENTS ME FROM DECLINING A ROCK-OFF CHALLENGE!!! |
. I know, "POSER ALERT!!!" I'll get around to finding it, though. Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 21:09
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Some thrash gems : Suicidal tendencies - lights, camera, revolution (their best) overkill - horrorscope (their best) slayer - south of heaven metallica - ride the lightning, master of puppets, ...and justice for all coroner - mental vortex anthrax - i am the man EP (good blend of rap and thrash metal wsith a sense of humour) testament - souls of black kreator - coma of souls
brutal death metal : carcass - necroticism : descanting the insalubrious cancer - death shall rise (feat James Murphy on lead guitar) obituary - cause of death (feat James Murphy on lead guitar) entombed - clandestine morbid angel - altar of madness grave - into the grave + Deicide and Napalm Death
technical death metal : death - individual thought patterns disharmonic orchestra - not to be undimensional conscious atheist - unquestionable presence pestilence - spheres
death metal with alternating vocals (clear / growling) : fear factory - demanufacture supuration - the cube opeth - blackwater park
symphonic death metal : bal sagoth - battle magic (death metal with keyboards !!!)
melodic death metal : amorphis - tales from the thousand lakes
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 21:28
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I forgot an essential thrash metal album : Annihilator's 'Alice in hell' ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 22:06
Never heard of Disharomic Orchestra but if they're anywhere near as brilliant as those other three, I'm in for a treat. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 22:43
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Lucas,you really think L,C,R is Suicidal Tendencies best album? IMO their best would be Join the Army. ------------- |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 16:54
| In regards to Suicidal Tendencies, I always had a fondness for How Can I Laugh Tomorrow..., which to me sounded the most "thrash" of all of their releases. It's unusually melodic for that kind of music. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 12:35
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"How will I laugh tomorrow (when I can't even smile today)". Good album too, and the commercial follow up 'Art of Rebellion' is not bad. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Shark Sandwich
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 16:57
"Spheres" is very good but they pretty much abandoned death metal on this one. "Testimony Of The Ancients" is their last real death album and I think it's their best. Tony Choy of Atheist/Cynic played bass on that one. It's unfortunate they split up after only a few albums, very underrated band. |