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Topic: Greatest American Rock Band
Posted By: Alagithil
Subject: Greatest American Rock Band
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 11:32

This is a toughie, and something I often puzzle over. So many great bands were British, and this REALLY highlights that.

But I say Byrds, REM, or Ramones. The Byrds invented practically EVERYTHING: folk-rock, jangle-rock, psychedelia, space-rock, country-rock, California-rock. Their sound was practically untouchable, too. I would call them the American Beatles. R.E.M. took leaves from the Byrds book and made them cryptic and intelligent, pretty much inventing alternative rock, a far-reaching and dominating genre. They might be the American Smiths. Finally, the Ramones took power-pop and glam-rock to its logical conclusion, inventing punk-rock and really touching the soul of rock 'n roll. (Nowhere near as stupid as some of the punk bands who followed, either.)

Any thoughts on the matter? I hope so.



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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 16:02

 

BYRDS!!!



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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 23:16
Jimi Hendrix, the Doors, CCR, Allman Brothers,
CSN&Y, Alice Cooper, Aerosmith, Steely Dan, Lynyrd
Skynyrd, Tom Petty, Fleetwood Mac, ZZ Top are
some pretty decent acts to consider!   


Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 23:39

There are lots to consider ... although in my book there's roughly 3 great British bands for each American one ...

The Byrds are actually my favourite at the moment too ... CSNY, Buffalo Springfield, Love, Spirit, The Doors, Iron Butterfly, Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Vanilla Fudge, Grateful Dead ... there are lots of fantastic ones just from the late 60s alone ...

I'm at the stage where I don't really check out Skynrd, Allmans, Doobie Brothers, Little Feat too often but they all rock too ...



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 00:14

What about Grand Funk Railroad, Mountain, early Steppenwolf, Alice Cooper but of course the amazing Santana (Not talking about Carlos because he was born in Jalisco - Mexico, but about the band formed by him in San Francisco).

Just to add some more to the previously mentioned.

Iván

 



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 05:45

60's - The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Beachboys

70's - Aerosmith, Alice Cooper,

80's - REM, They Might be Giants, The Pixies, Talking Heads

90's - REM, Pearl Jam



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 06:01
I think all the better US non-prog bands have been mentioned but I will put a special mention on Jefferson Airplane

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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 06:41

I should include Steppenwolf, but I guess they are Canadian...

 



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:33
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

I should include Steppenwolf, but I guess they are Canadian...

 

john Kay is from Southern Ontario and Emundon might be too, but I think that is it> generally considered US, I think

 



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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:57
My favourites are REM, The Doors and Talking Heads.


Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:18
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

I should include Steppenwolf, but I guess they are Canadian...

 

john Kay is from Southern Ontario and Emundon might be too, but I think that is it> generally considered US, I think

 

That's the question, Sean.

CSN&Y is 25% English and 25% Canadian but since they lined-up in USA we may consider them an American band. Same with Talking Heads with British people originally. I don't know if it is the case of Steppenwolf.

 



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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:48

A mention of 90's-00's American rock bands is not complete without Monster Magnet, easily one of the coolest bands on the planet

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:51

My vote would be for Buffalo Springfield. Their Again album is so good and has so many influences.



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 13:23
Originally posted by Alagithil Alagithil wrote:

 R.E.M. took leaves from the Byrds book and made them cryptic and intelligent, pretty much inventing alternative rock, a far-reaching and dominating genre. 

 

I thought the record states that REM are influenced by Big Star (who evolved out of the Box Tops) and the Trogs...........................



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 13:25
For me personally it would have to be The Doors.

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Posted By: Alagithil
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 13:54
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Alagithil Alagithil wrote:

 R.E.M. took leaves from the Byrds book and made them cryptic and intelligent, pretty much inventing alternative rock, a far-reaching and dominating genre. 

 

I thought the record states that REM are influenced by Big Star (who evolved out of the Box Tops) and the Trogs...........................

Big Star had little to do with the Box Tops, Alex Chilton notwithstanding. They sounded more like the Byrds than anything else. The "Troggs" thing is kind of a joke, I think. Pointing to the "garage" quality of their recording.



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Posted By: lubin
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:28

I like these American rock band:

The Nova Local(I still look for their biography,can somebody help me with it?)

Iron Butterfly

Mountain

Alice Cooper

CCR



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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:52

THE DOORS

AND THEN THE ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND AND THE YARBIRDS



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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:02
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE. My favourite band of all time.


Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:38

As you can tell from my name, I'm gonna say the Doors. But also Metallica

 



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 01:48

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

I should include Steppenwolf, but I guess they are Canadian...

Don't get why you believe this, only one member of the band was Canadian (drummer Jerry Edmonton).

In that case their main nationality could be German because John Kay (Joachim Fritz Krauledat) who formed the band was born in East Prussia - West Germany (Not in Canada), even the name of the band is taken from a Herman Hesse book,  but keyboardist Goldy Mc John, bassist Rushton Moreve and guitar player Michael Monarch were born in USA, so most of Syeppenwolf members were in fact born in USA.

They joined and formed the band on 1967 in California LA and all of them made their career in USA, that's why I oincluded them.

Iván 



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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:02
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

I should include Steppenwolf, but I guess they are Canadian...

Don't get why you believe this, only one member of the band was Canadian (drummer Jerry Edmonton).

In that case their main nationality could be German because John Kay (Joachim Fritz Krauledat) who formed the band was born in East Prussia - West Germany (Not in Canada), even the name of the band is taken from a Herman Hesse book,  but keyboardist Goldy Mc John, bassist Rushton Moreve and guitar player Michael Monarch were born in USA, so most of Syeppenwolf members were in fact born in USA.

They joined and formed the band on 1967 in California LA and all of them made their career in USA, that's why I oincluded them.

Iván 

OK, Iván, being formed in CA we may consider them as American.

Only two observations: as long as I know John Kay's stepfather was Canadian so he had the Canadian citizenship. Mars Bonfire (Dennis Edmonton), the composer of the emblematic "Born to be wild" was (is) Canadian too.



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