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Topic: Improve My Jazz Collection!
Posted By: MarkCsigs
Subject: Improve My Jazz Collection!
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 06:01
Okay ... I have "Misterioso" from Thelonius Monk.  I also have his album with John Coltrane.  And from Coltrane I've got "Blue Trane" and my all time favorite (uh, so far) "A Love Supreme".

Where do I go next in fleshing out these artists' works and who else do I look at?  Not so much looking for fusion recommendations here as that's covered in the progressive forums ... more interested in the Bop or Progressive styles of jazz ...


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 06:11
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 06:24
http://www.ecmrecords.com/Startseite/startseite.php - ECM records is a great label with high standards, check out if their artists style of aestethics pleases you!  (featuring Pat Metheny, Jan Garbarek, Ralph Towner, Keith Jarret etc.)


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 07:02

Since you are a Coltrane fan, his album "Giant Steps" is a must.

Also have a look at John Zorn, if you're looking for non-fusion Jazz with progressive elements.



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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 07:11
Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool, Kind of Blue, In a Silent Way, Bitches Brew

As Eetu says, ECM label is worth checking out, for starters you could try Keith Jarrett's album "My Song" which features Jan Garbarek


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:05

More or less contemporary with the Monk/Coltrane music you've been listening to:

  • Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
  • Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah-Um
  • John Coltrane - Crescent
  • Miles Davis - Round About Midnight (feat. Coltrane)
  • Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage
  • The Art Farmer Quartet - Sing me Softly of the Blues

All classic recordings from the mid 50s to the mid 60s, pre fusion but highly inventive. 



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:53

Horace Siver , Cannonball Adderley are also very worthy.

I think all the more inflential artist that are into instrumental jazz have been mentioned , by now.



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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 11:33
I have 7 or 8 Monk albums and Brilliant Corners is the one that floors me the most ... you gotta get that
I also echo Coltrane's Giant Steps plus Ascension and Interstellar Space (albums pretty soon after A Love Supreme), Brubeck's Time Out, Hancock's Maiden Voyage or Speak Like A Child (plus later albums like Sextant and Thrust), Miles Davis late 60s jazz-rock phase (Jack Johnson and Miles In The Sky are two underrated albums)

If you want a different angle I believe Sun Ra and Ornette Coleman are two people you should investigate but I haven't investigated enough myself ... so I can't recommend anything ....




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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 12:21
If you like calm jazz with acoustic piano, BILL EVANS records might be worhtwhile too. I liked especially his albums which he did with JIM HALL.


Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:06

ANOTHER KIND OF JAZZ MAYBE

BELA FLECK AND THE FLECKTONES... EXCELLENT MUSICIANS AND EXCELLENT MUSIC

 

 



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Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 00:35
Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain is pretty good.  Kind of Blue is amazing, of course.

I have Sun Ra's best of, and I liked it.  It's probably better to start with a best of from him and then branch towards what you like out of the variety of stuff he and his Arkestra play.


Posted By: Batman
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 00:39

Miles Davis - Bitches Brew is my favorite, but most say his best is Kind Of Blue

Also, "Head Hunters" (or it might be "Headhunters," I can't remember) by Herbie Hancock is great.  It's a mix of funk and jazz.



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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 12:02
OK ... I just got Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz To Come .. .I can wholeheartedly recommend it to someone who is a fan of Monk and Coltrane's A Love Supreme ...

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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”

"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."


Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 12:56

John Coltrane - My Favourite Things/Giant Steps
Albert Ayler - Bells
Miles Davis - On the Corner/Bitches Brew/Agharta/In a Silent Way
Carla Bley - The Escalator Over the Hill
Michael Mantler - The Hapless Child


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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 15:14
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  • MILES DAVIS (1969-1973 PERIOD)
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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 06:45

Wynton Marsalis

Dizzy Gillespie

Count Basie

Oscar Peterson

Moe Koffman

Egberto Gismonti

Diana Krall (Although I think I spend more time looking at her pictures than listening. Wow.)

 

Edit: The problem with jazz is that there are so many "must have" albums. The last three on my list is branching out from the essentials. (my opinion only.)

 



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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 06:48
What about acid-Jazz, like James Taylor Quartet.

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 07:56

For a group with some obvious connections as prog influences: Dave Brubeck Quartet, Time Out and Live At Carnegie Hall.

Miles Davis, were to start - well every album listed above.

John McLaughlin Extrapolation, John Surman: Way Back When for prog precursors.  Loose Tubes (all three albums - as precursors to Earthworks). Don Ellis: Electric Bath, At Fillmore (just be released on CD after a 30+ year wait). Take a look at the list of remastered CTI albums originally made in the 70's (Creed Taylor International), ranging from Freddie Hubbard to Deodato to Allan Holdsworth - Don Sebeski's Giant Box is great (e.g for the arrangement of Mahavishnu Orchestra's Birds Of Fire segued into Stravinsky's Firebird). John Mayer/Joe Harriott Indo Jazz Fusion, for a precursor of indo jazz fusion to come after. Virtual any album under the name of arranger Mike Gibbs (from the late 60's to the modern day). Mike Westbrook's March Songs. ECM Records as suggested is a great place to search and sample, although the full range of late 20th Century jazz will be heard: Jan Garbarek, John Surman, Keith Jarrett, Eberhard Weber, Pat Metheny, Ralph Towner, John Abercrombie,  etc. 

 

Early US jazz rock: e.g.  Charles Lloyd, Steve Grossman (i.e. pre 1969)



Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 08:00
everything from the ECM records catalogue just as our friend Eetu Pellonpää told to you.

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