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Topic: JOY DIVISION
Posted By: matti meikäläin
Subject: JOY DIVISION
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 11:50
what a great band.  singer ian curtis is so powerfull and emotional singer. what do you think



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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 12:14

i only know an album calle Closer...

sounds good... but to be honest i didnt put a lot of attention on it...

i think they´re kind of obscure band... but i dont know...



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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 12:14

and yes, i remember the voice...

great singer



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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 14:25
The only Joy Division album I've heard so far is Still, which I liked a lot.


Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:11
closer is really good album. they have only done two studio albums which are: unknown pleasures and closer. still must have been collection of songs or something. ian curtis made suicide in the early eighties, the band broke up right after that.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 30 2005 at 07:57

A very original band, which sometimes appealed to me and sometimes depressed me rigid. It was a good time for British pop music though, as punk evolved - dare I say it - 'progressed' into something more thoughtful.

I reccomend the film 'Twenty Four Hour Party People' to anyone interested in Joy Division, New Order, and the whole 'Madchester' scene. British comedian Steve Coogan plays Journo Tony Wilson who was the man behind Factory Records, and the infamous Hacienda club. The film charts the rise and fall of Joy Division and the Happy Mondays, and captures the decadant spirit of the time perfectly. As long as you can stop thinking of Coogan as Alan Partridge, you'll be able to spot that he plays Wilson brilliantly.



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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 30 2005 at 08:59
Originally posted by matti meikäläin matti meikäläin wrote:

closer is really good album. they have only done two studio albums which are: unknown pleasures and closer. still must have been collection of songs or something. ian curtis made suicide in the early eighties, the band broke up right after that.


Still was a compilation of previously unreleased songs and a live recording of their last concert. I'm sure you know this, but they didn't actually break up, they just changed their name to New Order.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 30 2005 at 09:11
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I reccomend the film 'Twenty Four Hour Party People' to anyone interested in Joy Division, New Order, and the whole 'Madchester' scene. British comedian Steve Coogan plays Journo Tony Wilson who was the man behind Factory Records, and the infamous Hacienda club. The film charts the rise and fall of Joy Division and the Happy Mondays, and captures the decadant spirit of the time perfectly. As long as you can stop thinking of Coogan as Alan Partridge, you'll be able to spot that he plays Wilson brilliantly.

 

I can't stop thinking Tony Wilson spouted vitriol about prog rock in the most recent prog rock documentary - when also on the same programme after 10 years of promoting it, John Peel said prog was 'Bollocks, absolute bollocks'. Hence, I wouldn't contemplate Joy Division - who evolved into the dull electro pop dance of New Order - creditials as prog rockers.



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 30 2005 at 09:43

^

Wilson was an ego maniac, always looking for the 'next big thing' and looking for ways to be asscociated with it. He described Shaun Ryder as a 'genius' which he is clearly not, he also described Ian Curtis as a genius, but I would dispute that too. No disrespect to the memory of the latter, who clearly meant a lot to many people..

There is a scene in the film where one of Wilsons friends is seen ripping posters of Pink Floyd and David Bowie off the walls in Wilsons flat, saying stuff like 'It's time to move on'

Thats the point, Wilson was nothing to do with music, only the youth culture that surrounded it. He was approaching middle age then, and needed to cling onto some credibility. Nevertheless, entertaining film. 



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