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Topic: Hatfield and the North
Posted By: fragile43k
Subject: Hatfield and the North
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 16:30
I've heard people associate Hatfield and the North as having "Fusion leanings".  I have been listening to the "Rotter's Club" lately and it has easily become my favorite album.  Subsequently, I am guite sure that I have  exhausted the Canterbury Genre (which they fall into).   I was hoping that someone might list some fusion bands that could be likened to Hatfield and the North (or National Health).  Again, I am a Canterbury fan through and through; I like the keyboard/organ/piano, I like vibes, I like good jazz melodies, I like the quorky rythms, I like the lushness and meloncholy.  I have listened to alot of fusion that I find too guitar based, too technical, and too mathematical--I am not interested in these bands.  Some Canterbury is technical and improvisational, but it is always offset by its other qualities.  Thank you.  I appreciate any suggestions on bands I might look into. 



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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 16:36

Bruford perhaps? Not quite Hatfield-ian, but Dave Stewart is there.

Glad to see the Hatfield recognition though!

Maybe Happy the Man (USA) also.



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 16:51

The logical next step is National Health - essentially Hatfield with a slightly changed line up. The self titled first album and Of Queues and Cures are both excellent to start with.

As for exhausting the Canterbury genre - don't speak too soon, there are all kinds of interesting offshoots. Check out the excellent Calyx website

  http://calyx.club.fr/index.html - http://calyx.club.fr/index.html



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 17:03

'Mumps' is the only Hatfield & the North song I've heard.

'The Rotters Club' is due to pop through my letter box any day now. It will be my introduction to the Canterbury scene. I think I may have some catching up to do..



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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 18:14
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

'Mumps' is the only Hatfield & the North song I've heard.

'The Rotters Club' is due to pop through my letter box any day now. It will be my introduction to the Canterbury scene. I think I may have some catching up to do..

get thyself caravan immediately



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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 18:32
Definitely check out the band Supersister, "Present From Nancy" is a great album and you'll love it if you like Hatfield.

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Posted By: Rainman
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 19:10

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Definitely check out the band Supersister, "Present From Nancy" is a great album and you'll love it if you like Hatfield.

And their 'Pudding En Gisteren'

 



Posted By: anael
Date Posted: December 06 2005 at 21:38


yeah i agree

-National Health
-Robert Wyatt ("The End of an Ear", "Ruth is Stranger Than Richard", "Rock Bottom")
-The Muffins
-Matching Mole
-Association PC ("Erna Morena", "Mama Kuku") (almost forget great fusion band!!)

*note: There´s a bootleg called Calyx of Hatfield and The North with Robert Wyatt is a Super-great-very nice-really good album





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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:14
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

'Mumps' is the only Hatfield & the North song I've heard.

'The Rotters Club' is due to pop through my letter box any day now. It will be my introduction to the Canterbury scene. I think I may have some catching up to do..

get thyself caravan immediately

Dont worry! It's all in hand..

'The Land of Grey & Pink' was ordered at the same time, but Amazon will apprently take a little longer to deliver that one..



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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:29
     Do you know "Gong" already? "You" is really a Canterbury masterpiece.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:33

Originally posted by RoyalJelly RoyalJelly wrote:

     Do you know "Gong" already? "You" is really a Canterbury masterpiece.

I dont know much about Gong really, although I've got numerous Steve Hillage albums. With the exception of Hawkwind I was always less inclined toward the psychedelic, but since joining this forum I think I may have misunderstood Gong. They are one of many bands I still need to explore.



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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 07:56
  • EGG
  • ARZACHEL
  • DELIVERY
  • KHAN
  • MATCHINE MOLE
  • SOFT MACHINE
  • KEVIN AYERS
  • GILGAMESH
  • ISOTOPE
  • QUIET SUN

 



Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 08:25
Picchio dal Pozzo, while Italian, certainly had Canterbury leanings on their first album. "Sortie" by Cartoon is a re-release of both the Cartoon and Music from Left Field from the San Francisco based band from the early 80's from Cuneiform that you might be interested in as well.

Several of the
Cuneiform artists lean in this direction.

Pip Pyle's Seven Year Itch has a veritable whose who of canterbury including
Dave Stewart, Barbara Gaskin, Phil Miller, Jakko M Jaksyk, Richard Sinclair, John Greaves, Fred Thelonious Baker, Hugh Hooper, Paul Rogers, Didier Malherbe and Elton Dean.




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Posted By: Norm Cash
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 08:34
Among the newer bands, The Tangent have definite Canterbury leanings. Both of their studio albums (The Music That Died Alone & The World That We Drive Through) are well worth a listen.

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Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 11:17

I agree, Hatfields two albums are two of the best ever recorded, if your looking for more, National Health would be an obvious choice as it is essentially Hatfield without Richard Sinclair 

Matching Mole is also on a simmilar vien and features Phil Miller on guitar. Egg is another hugley simmilar band with Dave Stewart on organ. There's even a Japanese fusion band called in Soph that have a clear Hatfield influence. Also you should forget, Hatfield intend on bringing out a new album sometime next year.



Posted By: fragile43k
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 13:20

I pretty much have every album from every band in the Caneterbury genre (as listed on THIS site) including Gong--it's safe to say that I'm a rabid fan. 



Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 13:43
Also try and get hold of Hatfield and The North's "Hatwise Choice" which are BBC recordings (and other live stuff too) and shows them live.  I saw them live a few months back and they were excellent.

A new album would be great.  Richard Sinclair is moving to Lecce in Italy though, so what bearing will this have on his future?  David Sinclair is in Japan I believe, so maybe he has something to do with the Japanese influences?


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Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:21

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

David Sinclair is in Japan I believe, so maybe he has something to do with the Japanese influences?

they just cant get enough of them!

i cant wait to get hold of a copy of Hatwise choice. apparently Hatwise choice 2 will be release next year as well




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