Fusion Recommendations
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Topic: Fusion Recommendations
Posted By: walrus333
Subject: Fusion Recommendations
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:12
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Okay ive got some Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Pat Methany, Jaco Pastorious, Electric Miles and Return To Forever. Give me some recommendations besides those ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:30
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Allan Holdsworth: Metal Fatigue, IOU, Secrets (for starters) Jean-Luc Ponty: Enigmatic Oceans Chad Wackerman: Forty Reasons Gong: Gazuese, Espresso II Soft Machine: Bundles OHM: OHM, Amino Acid Flashback Billy Cobham: Spectrum Tony Williams Lifetime: Believe It McGill Manring Stevens: Controlled by Radar Mastermind: Excelsior! Jonas Hellborg, Shawn Lane (RIP), Jeff Sipe: Time is the Key, Personnae Jonas Hellborg, Michael Shrieve, Buckethead: Octave of the Holy Innocents Jonas Hellborg, Kofi Baker, Shawn Lane: Abstract Logic
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 01:03
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Allan Holdsworth - The Sixteen Men of Tain Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior Niacin - Time Crunch Attention Deficit - The Idiot King Gong - Gazeuse!, Expresso II I know you mentioned Pat, but he has a huge discography, I will put an emphasis on getting The Way Up if you haven't yet. There's a lot of metallic stuff on this record, but you ought to check out Planet X - MoonBabies ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 01:12
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Neil Ardley-Kaleidoscope of Dreams (my favoirte fusion album) Pierre Moerlen's Gong-Time is the Key Gong-Gazeuse, Expresso II Nucleus-Elastic Rock, We'll Talk About It Later, Solar Plexus Soft Machine-4,6 Lol Coxhill-The Ear of the Beholder, The Story So Far....Oh Really (w/ Stephen Miller) Elton Dean Quintet-Boundaries (really more avant-jazz though, as is some of Lol Coxhill's) Nicra-Listen/Hear (w/ Keith Tippett, more avant...again, just Trombones and Piano, interesting) Hmmm, I'm sure there are others, I'll let you know if I think of any more  .EDIT: Oh yes, how could I forget Brand X  , my favorites are the first two albums.------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 01:12
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My suggestions:
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 05:53
It seems that the majority of bands listed here played jazz rock fusion. SO do you want to stick with jazz rock fusion, and/or broaden out into the other 80% of fusion?
Whilst you ponder, and sticking to jazz rock without repeating the excellent suggestions gone before, try: From the 70's First three Brand X albums Isotope's first two albums Tasavallan Presidentti: Lambertland (Love) (and for obscurity) 64 Spoons: Landing On A Rat Column (members of which ended up playing in Level 42, 21st Century Schizoid band, Network) More recently: Terj Rypdal: Singles Collection, Chaser (both ECM) David Torn: Cloud Around Mercury (ECM) Wayne Krantz: Two Drink Minimum (Enja) Nicholas D'Amato's Royal Society (feat. W. Krantz): Nullius In Verba (Buckyball) Tribal Tech: Rocket Science (ESC) Conrad Schrenk's Extravaganza: Save The Robots (reckoned by some to be the one of the best JR releases in the 90's) Hellberg/Buckethead/Shrieve: Octave Of The Holy Innocents (DEM Records - get the original 1993 release, not the 2004 remix on Bardo) Coryell/Smith/Coster (Tone Center) - in fact most albums with Steve Smith's name on and released by Tone Center Records McHacek: Featuring Ourselves (Austra Mechnaica) That has spent a couple hundred Euros/dollars And then we can go on to: Jazz funk (Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams, Stanley Clarke, even Miles Davis, recent Lenny White, Urbanator, etc.) Brass rock (If, BST, Chase, early Chicago, Heaven, Satisfaction, Ides Of March, Glueleg, Tower Of Power, Cold Blood) nu.fusion ( Bugge Wesseltoft, Nils Petter Molvaer, No Jazz, etc.) nu.jazz (Brad Mehldau, Estbjorn Svenssen Trio, The Bad Plus, Jaga Jazzist, The Shining) Canterbury jazz fusion (Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Hatfield & The North, Gilgamesh, etc.) Arabic fusion Indo jazz fusion (Shaki, a number of Jonas Hellborg projects) Flamenco jazz rock (Al Dimeola/McLaughlin/Paco DeLuca, etc. joint projects - see the latest version is just out on DVD with Coryell/DiMeola/Lagrene) Far eastern jazz rock (e.g. Kazumi Watanabe, Nguyen Le) Prog Fusion (LTE, BLS, usually Dream Theater or King Crimson spin offs) Big Band fusion: Don Ellis Orchestra (Fillmore), Loose Tubes, Jaga Jazzist (again), some of the 80's and 90's Mike Gibbs' albums. RIO (Henry Cow, etc.) Tribute fusion: Mahavishnu Project, Jazz Is Dead, Yo Miles
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walrus333 wrote:Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:14
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Jazz Rock Fusion: Mahavishnu Orchestra-- Practically all albums Brand X-- Unorthodox Behaviour Wigwam-- Nuclear Nightclub Bozzio Levin Stevens-- Steve Hillage-- Fish Rising Area, Crac, Planet X, Return To Forever... ------------- 
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Posted By: thefalafelking
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:47
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I've made a list on RYM: 10 essential fusionrecords! http://rateyourmusic.com/list/fabsolutely/introduction_to_fusion_jazzrock - http://rateyourmusic.com/list/fabsolutely/introduction_to_fu sion_jazzrock
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 08:29
Interesting. Jon Newey editor Jazzwise magazine, did a guest article in Mojo Collectibles 3 or so years ago, and his essentials included (but remember this was aimed at those collecting records):
MO's Birds Of Fire Davis's Bitches Brew Machine's Third Cobham's Spectrum RTF's Hymn To The 7th Galaxy Weather Report: Black Market Lifetime - either Emergency or Turn It Over (without the magazine nearby I'm relying on a faulty memory) Early 90's recording by Tribal Tech and Scott Henderson - neither of which I recall the title. In a poll I ran across a couple of specialist sites 10 years ago, Birds Of Fire, Hymn Of The 7th Galaxy and Bruford's Feels Good To me, were the top 3. As a rough rule it appears prog mainstreamers prefer RTF's Romantic Warrior, whilel jazz rockers prefer RTF's Hymn???!! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 08:41
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Falafelking
Thanks for reminding me I posted a list of jazz rock albums elsewhere, several years ago:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/RPLR4BTT3SJC/026-9226558-7204446 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse /-/RPLR4BTT3SJC/026-9226558-7204446 |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 09:40
Italians...
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Posted By: Toka
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 10:19
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Billy Cobham - Spectrum (essential) Colosseum II - Electric Savage |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 12:44
Andrew, do you really think Magic and Simplicity etc. are comparable with Spectrum - give me Total Eclipse and the other couple recordings by Cobham with the Brecker brothers (now reissued on Atlantic Jazz Remasters). Personally, having bought the original vinyl versions, I found Magic and Simplicity typical of the late 70's, when Columbia & Epic Records had tied many of the great jazz rock artists of the early 70's up in contracts and seemingly were demanding more "commercial" album i.e. the advent of smooth jazz/fusak/fm radio friendly jazz - a lot of it very tired and forgettable jazz rock, hence well-underplayed in my houshold. George Duke output went the same way. And this too was the period Narada Michael Walden became a successful soul singer and many of us realised Stanley Clarke wouldn't become one.
Note: Spyro Gyra - not to be confused with the Canterbury folk rock band with just about the same name. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 14:47
NO!!! "Spectrum" is far superior than the other two albums above mentioned. SPYRO GYRA : jazz rock band from the late seventies, eighties and nineties. SPYROGYRA : '70s folk rock, folk prog band from Canterbury. Don't worry, i know both bnds.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:21
If you know both bands you should know that the folk band is SPIROGYRA and not SPYROGYRA. Two other exciting fusion albums (nobody mentioned them I think) : BORNE : 'Exprime la naranja' (1979)
Alas : 'Pinta tu aldea' (1983, with PEDRO AZNAR [Pat Metheny Group] on synths)
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:36
Though it's really one of the only jazz fusion albums I have, it's good. As such, I recommend it also. Oh yeah, I also borrowed Bruford's Earthworks from the library. I liked it. It Needn't End in Tears has beautiful sax in it. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:38
Yes, sorry. I pressed the wrong button. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 22:19
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:56
Yeah! good Spanish band! I Say check out AQUILA. Aquila (1970) ------------- 
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:59
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Oh man! how can i forgot: Association PC. Erna Morena and Mama Kuku -------------
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 18:50
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Most of the obvious ones have been said, but I didnt see mentioned: Vital Information Vital Tech Tones (Smith, Henderson, Wooten) Gambale Hamm Smith ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |