Planet x or Liquid tension???
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Topic: Planet x or Liquid tension???
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: Planet x or Liquid tension???
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 14:31
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So? What´s it gonna be? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 14:56
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I do not like Planet X. I heard all of their albums, I borrowed them all 3 or 4 times, trying to get in their music. Finally I am convinced there is nothing to get into. Simply nothing! LTE - is just about perfect instrumental progressive project. Both albums are 5 stars IMO. Thus not much hesitations when voting.. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:41
| LTE |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:46
Planet X - 0 stars, LTE - 5 stars ... is that what you're saying? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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eugene wrote:
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:58
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No contest....................LTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------  |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 16:17
Planet X 
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 16:54
no, not exactly I would say, as they know how to play their instruments (do not know what though) 1 star for any of Planet X, except Black Utopia - 2 stars (there are some moments in this one). And 5 stars for LTE. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:20
Black Utopia is not a Planet X album. Did you do your homeworks? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:30
Oh, right, sh*t, my mistake. Frankly I can't see much difference between Derek's solo projects under his own name (well, "Mythology" is different) and his solo projects under Planet X name. Would you mind to tell me about some distinguishing features apart from name.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:35
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^ Planet X is more technical and abstract - basically because it's a joint effort of three artists (Donati, MacAlpine and Sherinian) to create really complex, jazz-influenced music. On Sherinian's solo albums you always get lots of influences from guest musicians, and they're generally more metal than jazz. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:41
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OK, then, thanks. Strange, I like complex music and I lke jazz-influenced music, but failed to find anything interesting in Planet X, inspite of various approaches to it. Never mind though, I have plenty of great music to listen to, so I can easily leave Planets XYZ all alone. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:45
It's a shame that so many people bash Planet X just because they find their music uninteresting. It should be obvious that they did not try to create a prog rock/metal album, or the most emotional album in the world. They tried to create a very complex, focused and abstract kind of music, and they succeeded brilliantly. I would say that the musicianship on MoonBabies is one level above that on the two LTE albums ... that does not imply that it is better, but it means something. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:53
I am not sure if you assumption on what they tried or did not try to create is correct, and it does not matter what they tried. I can hear what they achieved, and I do not like it. Simple as that. And, yes, I find their music absolutely uninteresting. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 18:12
| I do not like the mindless technicality that is Planet X. A very poor project. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 18:20
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LTE is not the best project ever ... just as Planet X is not the worst. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:13
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I have some songs from LTE...and yes they are over the top musicianship with virtuosism at 110%...but I can´t get to like them much...not even to hear more than two songs in a row... I only heard one Planet x song (the one from this site) and...yes, it´s ok...but it does it even less than LTE for me... Can anyone give an other good technical band?...Ah, and no Spiral Architect jejeje For some reason I happen to like the idea of technical complex bands...yet I don´t like the bands I have heard  ...is this strange?------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:14
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Planet X please Maybe i'm a bit biased because i'm a drummer and the biggest virgil donati fan  ------------- 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:19
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Spastic Ink ------------- |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:32
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I can recommend you to try following: Bozzio/Levin/Stevens Spaced out Talisma Addison Project - one of my latest purchases - very jazzy (maybe too jazzy for me) but still very good!
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:32
This is kinda objective statement, and no one in right mind would argue about that. However any poll requires rather subjective personal opinions. I just wonder what you voted for??? ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:51
 no contest planet x
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:29
| LTE for me. |
Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:05
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Planet X, great musicians and very interesting
compositions. I can understand that some people don't like it, but I really adore it, although it took a long time. ------------- 
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 12:34
None of them.  |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 13:43
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LTE wins by a good margin ... but Planet X are also great. Tentatively I'd say:
But I don't like the LTE improvisations too much ... I'm discounting them, otherwise Planet X would win! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 14:20
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You might like Gordian Knot. Technical, Instrumental, lot of good guests (Trey Gunn, Myung, Bruford, Hackett). http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000I7L0/sr=8-1/qid=1142277585/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-6611721-6346462?%5Fencoding=UTF8 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000I7L0/sr=8-1/qid=11422 77585/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-6611721-6346462?%5Fencoding=UTF8
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:20
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i will vote for LTE, because Tony Levin but Sherinian´s Planet X is excellent ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:37
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... and because of people like you Lech Kaczynski is our president
Both freak'n great bands, but LTE is just that much better. ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:49
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LTE by far! I find Planet X abit samey but Liqueid tension are fantastic! Both albums are amazing! LTE can always keep your attention whilst I find myself wandering during a Planet X album, good background music. ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 17:03
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LTE- easy I like Planet X though ------------- |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 18:06
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Both are great and i love the music they make. Both have perfect blends of musicians. But my vote goes to LTE. ------------- 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 18:55
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Planet X is mind boggling. They would score the highest possible score for technical merit. As much as I appreciate their work, Liquid Tension still carries some astounding musicianship while being much more memorable and enjoyable. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 03:50
Do you think followers of Donald Tusk are great fans of prog music? I don't think so. Many of them are listening to Doda  |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 04:38
Talk about missing the point of my post ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 06:17
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I like both bands really but I think LTE just edge it Especially 3 minute warning, just love those tracks edit /Marks against Planet X for the introduction to "kings of the universe" as well  ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: Masquerade
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 11:23
| for me planet x..its more original |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 11:23
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I like both equally as much. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 12:16
| Liquid tension Experiment |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 12:38
Sounds interesting. Sean Malone...isnt that the guy from Cynic? Strange thing, he does not appear to be in the line up of his first album according to this site ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: #1floydfan
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 13:05
Behold... the Arctopus 'nuff said. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/jimbobismykitty/?chartstyle=basicrt10 - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jimbobismykitty.gif - |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 15:13
| LTE for its insane musicianship. Tony dazzles as always |
Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 18:35
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This is like Brazil playing against Islas Fidji on Soccer. Of course LTE is superior on any point. ------------- 
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Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 11:29
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^^^lol "superior" ... sounds like a typical DT fan answer. PLANET X because yes, I thought they were pretty boring when I first listened to Quantum a few times, despite the extreme musicianship. But now days I completely adore Quantum for the chops and its great memorable melodies and its expressive feel. ------------- 
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:19
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This is a tough one. Overall things play out like this: guitarists in Planet X >>> Petrucci bassits in Planet X = Levin Sherinian > Rudess Donati >>> Portnoy But unfortunately the guys in Planet X sound like the're playing at 80 - 85% of their ability, whereas LTE reach 100, with Levin capable of more than 100. So on the whole I really can't decide, the music's good on both sides. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:28
| I would have thought I'd chimed in - this is a pretty old thread. Anyway, Planet X by a mile for me. I got one LTE album and didn't care for it at all. Whereas Moonbabies and Quantum for me are just brilliant. |
Posted By: bluesynight
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 16:27
keybord to compare rudees to sherinian, is like to compare mozart to charlie parker. rudees is faster but he dont have the special filing that sherinian have. drum donati is a  alien, after i heared "alien hip hop" i couldent close my mouth. his much more better then Portnoy.guitar of course petrucci is better, but Tmac is all so good. bass planet x had several bass players, and bill sheehan was one of them, but levin is awesome, and he better then all of they players except sheehan. sherinian = rudees donati>>>>>> Portnoy petrucci>>>>Tmac(the other PX's guitar players are slightly worst then macalpine) sheehan>>>>levin>>all the rest of planet x's bass players. originality:PX>>>>LTE technicality: PX>>>LTE(the weird time signatures, and the jazz parts are really making the difference) i love LTE,but i have to go with planet x. ------------- The Irish gave the bagpipes to the Scotts as a joke, but the Scotts haven't seen the joke yet. (Oliver Herford) |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 16:32
| LTE winning big, sad state of affairs |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 16:36
Well of course, there's no accounting for taste. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 21:51
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Planet X for me. I'm a big fan of both, but there is something about about Planet X that makes me like them slightly more. ------------- 
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 21:55
I'm gonna have to reverse this decision. LTE is nice, but it has very little replayability. PX, on the other hand...stunning. I still need to get Quantum, though. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 21:57
Indeed - you won't be disappointed. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 13:55
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Liquid Tension Experiment rocks. Planet X sucks. End of the story. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 13:59
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wow thats tough LTE only have 2 albums, and Planet X's albums have been getting better since Moonbabies. there's a real jazz-fusion feel finally to it. Planet X for me. IMO, LTE is just a better version of latter day Dream Theater btw, who else is for Holdsworth to join Planet X, he seems to fit right in. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 14:18
And a terrible story it was. |
Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 16:03
File it in the fiction section. -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 16:08
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^ more like the tabloids |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 16:34
I personally think Tony was the perfect man for the job (his work in MoonBabies was phenominal), but if not him, sure, Holdsworth would fit right in as well. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 16:38
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LTE because Planet X from what I've heard is eh
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 12:51
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jajajaj this poll was my creation?!?! I dont even like this bands
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Posted By: karakatoa
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 08:58
i lke both bands,but i prefer lte,its more complex,better compositions,better songs
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Posted By: bluesynight
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 12:21
"better compositions,better songs" , well its a matter of taste. "LTE is more complex"?? you kidding right? planet x is one of the most complex and technical band out there(it was the whole idea of this band)! ------------- The Irish gave the bagpipes to the Scotts as a joke, but the Scotts haven't seen the joke yet. (Oliver Herford) |
Posted By: Drumolator
Date Posted: May 08 2008 at 00:21
Why call it mindless? I really like the tunes, not just how they are played. They are one of my favorite instrumental bands. I only heard the first LTE and ended up selling it. Peace. ------------- Mark Wellman "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." |
Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: May 23 2008 at 01:07
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LTE is not really that complex. If I can count it out, its not that complex. I can count out most of LTE's stuff pretty easy, and alot of times on the first listen. Even when I first listened to LTE2, I thought to myself "well this isn't near as technical as I thought it would be, just really fast with a million notes in a simple meter... good production quality though." And seriously, LTE made a song about water breaking in birth.... THEY HAVE NO EDGE. I''m sure it was a really heartfelt moment for whoever's wife happen to have a baby, but, please don't make a sappy cheese fest intro out of it. They don't even expand on the theme of the intro at all ... what followed was yet another 'adrenaline pumping' 15 minutes of instrumental hard rock.... really lame. In the liner notes of LTE2, they just talk about how 'progressive' their sh*t is, how they're obligated to do an epic in order to be a '"real' progressive band' and how one of their sections should win the '''timing madness award' for 1999' just for using an alternating 5/8 6/8 pattern (whoop-de do! mindblowing!). I know they're joking mostly, but it does speak a little truth as to what direction they're going for: up their own a$ses. I'm just sad that they dragged good ol' Tony Levin into their project. derrrrrr 'nuff said derrrrr!! uhhhh derrrrrrrrr end of story!!! -------------
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Posted By: Relayer09
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 01:45
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LTE for me. ------------- If you lose your temper, you've lost the arguement. -Proverb |
Posted By: Fleetway
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 16:36
| Is liquid trio experiment counted as part of the liquid tension experiment? Cause then ill probably vote for them. Otherwise im leaning a little towards planet X. I need to relisten to both of them tho. |
Posted By: Lev
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 16:37
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The idea of voting Planet X is just mental. Blates Liquid Tension Experiment. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 16:55
really? I'm surprised it was even released, seemed more like a lonely soundcheck than an album |
Posted By: Lev
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:43
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Indeed. Very poor in comparison to the actual albums.
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Posted By: Fleetway
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:47
| I dissagree. To each his own. |
Posted By: Lev
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:49
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Don't get my wrong, I still rather enjoy it. But my love for the two main albums is ridiculous.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 13:01
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LTE bores me to tears. Petrucci's soloing is flagrantly monotonous. Planet X is ok, but I prefer the stuff that goes under Sherinian's solo works.
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Posted By: Progbeatz
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 18:43
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planet x
excellent stuff that is imo out of lte league ------------- Prog in the projeKcts... |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 18:57
You're special. Anyway, I would have used to have voted for LTE, and I like some of it, but I like Planet X more now. You can just put it on and chill to some complex, rhythmic music (with a few Allan Holdsworth solos on the newest album). I can understand the perception that it's boring, which is what I used to think, but now I listen to it differently.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 19:20
| as a long time PX fan I think I like Universe the best.. heavy, inspired, awesome |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 19:29
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i love both bands, but LTE only have 2 albums, and Planet X has 3 (with more to come im sure) the mood of both bands is astounding. recently ive been diggin Planet X and Sherinian's solo stuff, so i will have to go with Planet X. btw the negative posts about Planet X on the first page of this thread (from 3 years ago!) are BS ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 19:31
whoa, relax...  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 19:34
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LTE
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 19:34
Dude you realize what you're getting pissed off about, right? Chill.... -------------
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Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 12:07
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Well, I'm really glad to see so much support for LTE and very much deserved imo. And it's funny because I used to dislike Planet X pretty much cause I didn't get the complex structures. I don't get it completely by now but better. In fact my enthusiasm for tough fusion is rising slowly but surely. But it will never reach the level of fabulous LTE at least not for my taste. ------------- A day without prog is a wasted day |
Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 21:58
| Planet x :D |
Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 14:27
?! No way
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 14:39
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Planet X - no way? Right answer
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Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 19:17
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LTE is only a bunch of irritating guitar scales, their first album is a lot anoying. Planet X is much better, a very good metal fusion band. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 19:36
| None of them are exactly as good as I thought they would be, but I still prefer Planet X over Liquid Tension Experiment. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 19:52
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^ that's interesting, when I first heard Planet X I had no expectations cause I'd never heard of them or owned any, so I was really impressed.. same with LTE, but now somehow their stuff seems more like college prog, er, if you know what I mean |
Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 19:54
| Planet X is superior nuff said! |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 19:57
| LTE for me |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 19:59
| Brand X? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 20:12
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recently I re-audited the LTE debut in order to review it and I must say, though there are good parts, it disappoints; full of ghastly, simplistic pop stylings and filler. Can't say that about any of the PX records, they're all a cut above. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 20:24
Just saw this... I said that because I really liked Derek's playing on Falling into Infinity by DT and thought that Planet X would be much more intriguing and that it would avoid DT's mistakes, but it does have some, like excessive and senseless complexity.
Anyway, I still prefer Planet X over DT instrumental (aka LTE)
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 20:28
the longevity of this thread 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 20:29
Yup. Although LTE disappointed from day one. The couple Planet X albums I have are very good. |
Posted By: JakoCba
Date Posted: October 22 2010 at 12:15
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Planet X is better for me, Virgil Donati and his double bass is awesome I think is one of the best drummers in the world. ------------- I don't have lastfm sorry :) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2016 at 03:16
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Planet X I also prefer Derek Sherinian's albums to LTE
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