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Topic: guitarist
Posted By: Vi0LaToR
Subject: guitarist
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 09:22
i think is most important the creativity to make melodies like david gilmour or Fripp, howe has the two qualities  but steve vai i think only has skill to play for example
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 09:35
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You need both. If you're not skilled to play you can't create melodies. I like
more emotional players. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 19:50
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I see this turning into a shred bashing thread. Anywho, I haven't voted coz like FragileDT said, you need both. Sure, you need to be creative, but there's nothing funnier than seeing people *try* to do stuff they blatently can't (And there's a lot of that where I live). |
Posted By: Zepology101
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 07:52
Creativity, if he only had skill, then he could be able to play anything, but it's going to be suckish sounding. trust me, I' a guitar player!!!. ------------- 
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 18:13
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Both
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 18:44
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Howe has both? Mmmm, not really. He was a skillfull player when compared with other guitar players from early 70's but I can't imagine him playing the speedy and technical solos by some modern guitarists as Vai, Petrucci or even Trevor Rabin. In fact when he plays on stage some of the Trevor Rabin stuff he never tries to play his solos. He just couldn't do it the same. When Eddie Van Halen came up in 1977 with a whole new guitar technique all the guitar players that supposed to be skillfull before him ceased to be so skillfull. The post-Van Halen guitar players are usually much more advanced technically than the early 70's guitarists. That said, I must say that I love Howe's playing, but I consider Steve Howe more a "creative" guitar player, and I prefer him over most of the "skillfull" players. But of course the best would be a mix between creativity and technical ability. |
Vi0LaToR wrote:Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 19:17
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Both Skill preceeds creativity ------------- 
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Posted By: MiniGorbi
Date Posted: March 30 2006 at 05:44
| You need Both! |
Posted By: Matt Dickens
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:13
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I would go with Creativity Omar Rodriguez Lopez isn't exactly that good technically but i enjoy hearing him over the John Petrucci's and Joe Satriani. But anyone who thinks Steve Vai isn't creative with his melodies should absolutely listen to his latest album and the song K'm Pee Du Wee in Particular |
Posted By: coffeeintheface
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 22:56
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without melodies, skill is nothing. Why do you suppose the majority of
shredders like Rusty Cooley do little except make instructional DVDs?
Because they suck at making actual MUSIC.
------------- OBQM: www.soundcloud.com/onebigquestionmark (solo project) nQuixote: www.soundcloud.com/n-quixote (ambient + various musical ideas) |
Posted By: Royalist
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 13:11
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Which leg do you want to have: a)left b)right  ------------- 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:05
| Both are preferable, but creativity over technical skill in the end. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 16:23
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I think you need to have both, but in order to play melodies, you have to have the skill to pull them of musically. -------------  
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 16:25
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you can know how to play every song in the book
but to make an origonal
something YOU create
is a whole nother ballgame
i went with creativity -------------  
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 16:49
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Both. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 08:09
I disagree, sorry.. Btw which album of Vai makes you think like that? There is an album called the 7th song, full of melodic and ballad songs (still instrumental though) like For The Love Of God, Tender Surrender, Hands On Heart.. Do you think these songs aren't melodic?
 Oh and I would say a combination is the best, but maybe the feeling is more important... ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg"> 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 10:10
| Creativity. If you only can play solos, you're worth nothing in a band. |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: July 19 2006 at 17:41
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Steve Hackett is a perfect example for this poll. He can create amazing melodies, but for some reason he has never learned how to bend properly. ------------- 
You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
Posted By: Markus
Date Posted: July 23 2006 at 15:59
| Creativity,but it's not easy question... |
Posted By: Dr. Evil
Date Posted: July 23 2006 at 16:02
Definetly left |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 24 2006 at 10:04
| Both would be preferable, but I went for creativity. Not being a musician, technical skill for its own sake is just not for me. |
Posted By: krring
Date Posted: July 25 2006 at 05:47
| Creativity in making melodies is important for a musician, or more specifically for a composer. Musicianship in that regard is good to have for a guitarist - after all, it's a definite boon for improvisation - but skill IS of primary concern. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would far rather listen to a highly skilled guitarist bringing life to a composed piece, than some fumbling beyond which can be discerned a creative melody. The key question is what constitutes skill, and of course the answer is a frantic waving of the arms and the imploration, 'NOT SPEED!' Skill is the ability to execute a melody - whether a result of your own creativity or some other's - with a variation of sound and pace, with a texture appropriate to each note, which completes the emotion that otherwise can only be partially present in a well-conceived melody. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 25 2006 at 11:15
| if I had to choose: creativity |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: July 25 2006 at 11:17
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If you can't make a good melody, then all your skill is worthless. That's why I like Joe Satriani so much! great playing and melodies. -------------  
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 19:40
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I'm a guitar player, and let me tell you: anyone can build their skill and get better - and I'm not joking. However, not everyone is creative or can create melodies. For example: see Slayer. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 03:37
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creativity ------------- [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Genesis_Group.jpg" border"> |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 04:48
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Creativity to make melodies , Although the skill of the guitarist does come into account for me, that is why I consider Steve Howe to be the best guitarist as he has a mixture of both. ------------- 
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