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Topic: The United States of America
Posted By: illustrated
Subject: The United States of America
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 03:37

These guys are proto-prog, they should be on this site.



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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 03:38
bollocks

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 06:28
Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

bollocks


Can you articulate your negative analysis a bit further so we can contemplate the case against USA more thoroughly?? 


Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 22:34
^^^Certainly, we are talking about that silly one/two hit wonder from 90's? Now I thought that progressive was about intelligent, adventurous music, not of the mainstream. How can you qualify a novelty song pop band, from the 90's, as being proto-prog? Does "proto" not mean prototype? An early blueprint of whats to come? Progressive has come and gone. And how does this A-typical drum, guitar, bass, set-up resemble anything that sounds progressive? If USA become part of the prog pantheon, whats next? Michael Jackson?

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 22:39
Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

^^^Certainly, we are talking about that silly one/two hit wonder from 90's? Now I thought that progressive was about intelligent, adventurous music, not of the mainstream. How can you qualify a novelty song pop band, from the 90's, as being proto-prog? Does "proto" not mean prototype? An early blueprint of whats to come? Progressive has come and gone. And how does this A-typical drum, guitar, bass, set-up resemble anything that sounds progressive? If USA become part of the prog pantheon, whats next? Michael Jackson?


No we're not actually.Her's who we're talking about, the early Psych, Proto-Prog band:






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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 13:15
Well! don't I look like a complete moron now. OK, never heard (of) these guys. Disregard previous rant.

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Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:01

Haha! You were thinking of "The Presidents of the United States of America". No big deal, but you should check out this band I've brought up, they were really ahead of their time. They released only one album in '68, which didn't achieve commercial success but a lot of people consider it to be one of the best albums of the late sixties.



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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 20:08
Originally posted by illustrated illustrated wrote:

Haha! You were thinking of "The Presidents of the United States of America". No big deal, but you should check out this band I've brought up, they were really ahead of their time. They released only one album in '68, which didn't achieve commercial success but a lot of people consider it to be one of the best albums of the late sixties.

USA released two albums, not one:

Their debut album was titled "The United States Of America" (1968); the second album was called "The American Metaphysical Circus" (1969) and presented an enlarged line-up (USA + The Field Hippies); the music in this second work is less improvised, less creative and spontaneous, but more professional, even if not at the same level as their first album, which is a masterpiece. Their music is an original blend of avant-garde, electronica and rock.

When leader Joseph Byrd left the group, he released two solo albums in the mid-70s ("A Christmas Yet To Come" and "Yankee Trascendoodle"), then he collaborated in the RY COODER's "Jazz" album (1978).

Anyway i agree, USA should be included in the Proto-Prog category.

 



Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 20:24

I have never heard of them, but am interested in early American Progressive rock bands so I will check it out. I assume they're american . .no?  I just picked up the first Kansas album.  Though I was sceptical when soemone  recommended the first three Kansas albums on a thread, I was really impressed with this album.  I can hear a lot that came later including FM, of course, but also UK and Dream Theater. I am looking forward to getting the next two.

 



Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:13
Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

I have never heard of them, but am interested in early American Progressive rock bands so I will check it out. I assume they're american . .no?  I just picked up the first Kansas album.  Though I was sceptical when soemone  recommended the first three Kansas albums on a thread, I was really impressed with this album.  I can hear a lot that came later including FM, of course, but also UK and Dream Theater. I am looking forward to getting the next two.

 

Do You Like RUSH???



Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:46
Never heard of The United States Of America. They seem very intriguing. to be one of the best releases of the late 60's and virtually unheard of... thanks for the mention.




Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

I have never heard of them, but am interested in early American Progressive rock bands so I will check it out. I assume they're american . .no?  I just picked up the first Kansas album.  Though I was sceptical when soemone  recommended the first three Kansas albums on a thread, I was really impressed with this album.  I can hear a lot that came later including FM, of course, but also UK and Dream Theater. I am looking forward to getting the next two.



 Hey Ken, Sounds l;ike youd be interested in Proto-Kaw.Im l;istening to it rightnow. A bit more psychedelic than the Kansas stuff but hearing thier early stuff  is cool. And the music can be grand at times.


Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 20:37
Well.. one of the best psychedelic/experimental albums of that time anyway.

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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 18:11
I got the album, it's amazing. Every serious prog fan should have it. No guitar, but lots of lovely electric violin and electronic stuff. Very bizarre and trippy, how psychedlia should be.

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 20:58
Hehe, well, once I've sorted VdGG and Allman Brothers Live at Fillmore East for you, you know what you're sending

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 03:44
Even if one discards Witchwoodhermit's moment  ... this thread is still proof of how rare this band is ... in fact, a decision was postponed simply because too few collabs had heard of it ... and nobody appears to have links/samples to offer ...

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 10:44
Well both myself and The Wizard have the album, so we can upload it for you if necessary?  Or, maybe Mickey can pick out five tracks, zip them up and upload them for you guys to download?

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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 12:06

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Well both myself and The Wizard have the album, so we can upload it for you if necessary?  Or, maybe Mickey can pick out five tracks, zip them up and upload them for you guys to download?

Already done!



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