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Topic: Dream Theaterís Dark Side Released
Posted By: FragileDT
Subject: Dream Theaterís Dark Side Released
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 23:26
I thought I would mention that Dream Theater recently released their live
CD/DVD where they cover Dark Side of the Moon at the April 1st 20th
Anniversary show (I'm not sure if the CD is released to the public yet,
though I know they said it was limited edition.) I purchased the CD only
but I just wanted to show the track listing to show how they covered
much more than just Dark Side. It's a 2-disc live album where the first
disc is from one show where they only covered Dark Side of the Moon.
The second disc contains various Floyd covers that the band has done
throughout the years.

Disc Two:

1. Echoes Pt. 1 (12:00)
2. One of these days (6:24)
3. Sheep (9:42)
4. In the Flesh?   (2:56)
5. Run Like Hell (1:58)
6. Hey You   (4:49)
7. Comfortably Numb (7:22)

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Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 23:31
They are a great band, but doing all these covers is getting a bit ridiculous. I will stick to the original Dark Side of the Moon by the original band.

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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 23:36
Of course we will all be sticking to the original. I just think it's interesting to
hear a band like Dream Theater that sounds (pretty much) NOTHING like
Pink Floyd plays some of their songs. I also thought it was cool that they
added extras (echoes and sheep being the ones that caught my eye the
most.)

As Portnoy puts it "As much as all 5 of us have been influenced by Floyd
stylistically, Pink Floyd may very well be the polar opposite of what Dream
Theater has become known for. We are generally known for over-the-top
shredding, speed, dexterity and general musical acrobatics. Wheras Pink
Floyd was always about the complete opposite side of the spectrum: mood,
dynamics, slow & patient playing and much that breathes... it was never
about the individual musicians, but more about the collective atmosphere."

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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity


Posted By: helofloki
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 00:00
I must admit, I'm curious.


Posted By: mortem
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 00:07
mm I don't want to get my expectations too high.. lately DT has disappointed way too many. I'll make sure to check it out, though


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Posted By: int_2375
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 02:48

Originally posted by FragileDT

As Portnoy puts it "As much as all 5 of us have been influenced by Floyd
stylistically, Pink Floyd may very well be the polar opposite of what Dream
Theater has become known for. We are generally known for over-the-top
shredding, speed, dexterity and general musical acrobatics. Wheras Pink
Floyd was always about the complete opposite side of the spectrum: mood,
dynamics, slow & patient playing and much that breathes... it was never
about the individual musicians, but more about the collective atmosphere."

I respect that they will admit that...



Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 03:25
Originally posted by FragileDT

As Portnoy puts it "As much as all 5 of us have been influenced by Floyd
stylistically"


Hmmmmm..... Like? Yes; influenced by? Not sure...

I'd certainly be interested in hearing this; their occasional nods toward Floyd have in the past been well done, so I'm intrigued as to whether they can pull off the entire DSOTM; I think a great deal of restraint would be required on the part of John Petrucci & (especially) Mike Portnoy.

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Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 04:11
Hey, that sounds cool. Does the case say which show it is (amsterdam/london?).

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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 04:32
SORRY GUYS BUT NOTHING IS BETTER THAT THE ORIGINAL IMO


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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 05:17
DT is raising money
But I'm really really curious about that one. Making covers of Metallica is not surprising, because one easily could hear it in DT's music now and then, so cover version of "Master Of Puppets" wasn't that big surprise.

But now we're talking about Pink Floyd! Completely different band, Dream Theater has absolutely nothing to do with Pink Floyd. And that's will be interesting.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 07:33
I've heard a (very crapy) bootleg of the Lndon performance and though the sound qualaty was rubbish it was well done by DT.

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Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 08:06

Originally posted by sleeper

I've heard a (very crapy) bootleg of the Lndon performance and though the sound qualaty was rubbish it was well done by DT.

You should hear the bootleg of the same gig they did in Amsterdam. It's pretty damn good quality, and in my humble opinion, the cover is pretty good too!



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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 09:21

I kinda like their covers.

Esp. The Number of The Beast-- James' voice is awesome!



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 10:25
The Dark Side of the Moon session was recorded live at the Hammersmith
Apollo in London on October 25th, 2005. The bonus songs were all recorded
from different years ranging from as early as 1995 to as new as March 9,
2006 (Sheep.)

As for the cover of the album Dark Side of the Moon. I can't believe how well
Dream Theater covered it. Again, they are a prog metal band that essentially
sounds nothing like Pink Floyd and they did a great job. I've never heard
Petrucci and Rudess play with so many sounds and atmospheres and LaBrie's
vocals actually sound very good. It's definitely worth a listen.

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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity


Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 10:43
I belive it can be interesting to hear what DT makes out of the Floyd covers. They'we been doing a few good one's in the past. But only a few.

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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 15:28

I only heard the Dark Side of The Moon bootleg, and it's quite good, the record quality is good.
For those DT fans you won't be dissapointed

Hey FragileDT where did you get the info?





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Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 16:28
Originally posted by martinprog77

SORRY GUYS BUT NOTHING IS BETTER THAT THE ORIGINAL IMO
have you even listened to this cover yet? lol

edit: has anyone listened to this yet though? how is labrie? :(


Posted By: Rushman
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 17:01

I haven't heard it, but it was made available for the first time to purchase at the Radio City gig Saturday night. I was there but spent my money on a T-shirt.

It will be available for online purchase soon.

 

 



Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 17:44
It's not about trying to be as good as the orignal, it's about playing  your influences and inspirations with fans considered as honoring a great band. It's not like they are trying to say "look, we played DSOTM, we are better than pink floyd"


Posted By: cowbell1
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:03
Originally posted by Dr Know

They are a great band, but doing all these covers is getting a bit ridiculous. I will stick to the original Dark Side of the Moon by the original band.



Does anyone else think that Darkside of the moon is a bit over-rated when compared to other Pink Floyd albems? I mean I think Meddle is a far better albem with Darkside of the moon maybe being their 4th or 5th best.


Posted By: int_2375
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:18

Originally posted by cowbell1

Does anyone else think that Darkside of the moon is a bit over-rated when compared to other Pink Floyd albems? I mean I think Meddle is a far better albem with Darkside of the moon maybe being their 4th or 5th best.

Originally posted by cowbell1

Does anyone else think that Darkside of the moon is a bit over-rated when compared to other Pink Floyd albems? I mean I think Meddle is a far better albem with Darkside of the moon maybe being their 4th or 5th best.

Yeah basically most people who are actually into Floyd think that...  but DSOTM is no where near as overrated as The Wall.

On progarchives Animals, WYWH, Meddle, etc. generally get the recognition they deserve... its only the mainstream that really knows them for DSOTM and The Wall.

My opinion on DT doing an entire album of Pink Floyd covers is that they like money... Its amazing how much crap some of these bands will put on cd.



Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:48
^I think DSOTM is a great album.  A lot of people scorn it because it gets such public recognition.  Imo Pink Floyd's peak was from 1970-1975.  During this period the band worked best as a whole instead of trying to find their feet pre 1970 and Waters dominated stuff 1977-1983.  I think DT covering DSOTM sound really interesting and I would like to hear it. 

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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:56
Where can I get it? Coz it ain't on Ytsejam Records...

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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 19:35
Originally posted by Valarius

Where can I get it? Coz it ain't on Ytsejam Records...


They are releasing it in two weeks (i think) on the Ytsejam records website.

Since I know someone asked: LaBrie's vocals sound great on the CD. He
really did a great job at least IMO.

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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 00:52
I'd like to hear it.......

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Posted By: jesperz
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 00:57
So it is more like a bootleg kinda thing rather than official record label release?



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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 03:48
Originally posted by hamham

Originally posted by martinprog77

SORRY GUYS BUT NOTHING IS BETTER THAT THE ORIGINAL IMO
have you even listened to this cover yet? lol

edit: has anyone listened to this yet though? how is labrie? :(
YES I DO . A FRIEND OF ME [DT FAN] DOWNLOW  A COPLE OF SONG AND TO BE HONEST IS LIKE 6 OUT OF 10.IS JUST OK .BY THE WAY I THINK THE IN THE FLESH[FROM COS IS BETTER THAT THIS]

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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 08:40
I have listened the cd, I have to say it are good cover's. LaBrie has a good voice, bu imo you shouldn't cover songs from a great band like Pink Floyd. Dream Theater is a great band too, but with an other character and an other sound. I shouldnīt make covers anyway.


Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 23:01
Originally posted by jesperz

So it is more like a bootleg kinda thing rather than official
record label release?


It's one of Dream Theater's "official" bootlegs from their label Ytsejam
records. So it's official and was sold at their show but it's not a major label
release if that's what you mean.

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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity


Posted By: Malice
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 17:30

Originally posted by cowbell1

Originally posted by Dr Know

They are a great band, but doing all these covers is getting a bit ridiculous. I will stick to the original Dark Side of the Moon by the original band.



Does anyone else think that Darkside of the moon is a bit over-rated when compared to other Pink Floyd albems? I mean I think Meddle is a far better albem with Darkside of the moon maybe being their 4th or 5th best.

i feel the same way ...

but it's not bad or anything ... maybe a bit overrated or something ...

or maybe not :)

saying that it's better then meddle is risky for me, because most tracks on it suck (imo).
Even one of these days gets boring fast ... that just leaves echoes which is nice ...



Posted By: #1floydfan
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 18:17

nothing ever beats the origanol but still my two favorite bands are pink floyd and dream theatre it should be intresting



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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 18:29
I have heard the bootleg and it sounds nearly the same as the original. I expected Petrucci to play his own solos but he just reproduces note by note the original Gilmour solos, trying to sound exactly the same. And he gets it, but I don't see the interest of buying this. It's exactly the same DSOTM we all know. I already have it.


Posted By: _sam_
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 19:09

Animals is still my favorite by Pink Floyd. I wonder what it would be like if Dream Theater covered that...



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 23:36
Originally posted by _sam_

Animals is still my favorite by Pink Floyd. I wonder
what it would be like if Dream Theater covered that...



Well, they did cover sheep.

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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity


Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 00:05
Originally posted by Malice

Originally posted by cowbell1

Originally posted by Dr Know

They are a great band, but doing all these covers is getting a bit ridiculous. I will stick to the original Dark Side of the Moon by the original band.



Does anyone else think that Darkside of the moon is a bit over-rated when compared to other Pink Floyd albems? I mean I think Meddle is a far better albem with Darkside of the moon maybe being their 4th or 5th best.

i feel the same way ...

but it's not bad or anything ... maybe a bit overrated or something ...

or maybe not :)

saying that it's better then meddle is risky for me, because most tracks on it suck (imo).
Even one of these days gets boring fast ... that just leaves echoes which is nice ...

Call me crazy or whatever you want, but i really think that Pink Floyd in general is overrated



Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 14:58

And for some reason I think it absolutely SUCKS that they've recorded the gig in London...
I was there, in Amsterdam... Call me selfish, but I just think so

By the way, in Japan they played 'Made in Japan', right? Will that be released?



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Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 19:45
Eh, theyve already butchered Master of Puppets and Number of the Beast, so ill leave my DSOTM to Floyd thank you very much

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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 02:21

Many years ago a friend of mine send me a cassette tape (i said: many years ago) with a band doing covers of rock classics, and I liked very much.  It was the 'Change of Seasons' by DT, a band that I heard before but didn't liked. Then I buyed various albuns and became a DT fan. But then came the '6 Degrees' and 'Train of Thought' albuns and I forgot them again...

The years passed and I heard that they were doing live versions of complete classic rock albuns. I remembered that they did great covers in the past, and when I heard that they were doing 'DSotM' I became interested. Then I downloaded a live version of it, but when I listened... what a deception...  It was only a fine copy of the original ! They didn't added nothing, absolutely nothing to the songs... It's something like 'The Moon Revisited' by Magna Carta...

If you want good covers of PINK FLOYD songs by great bands that did own personnel versions, try 'Signs of Life - Angular Tribute to PF'. It's excellent !!! Forget this DT xerox copy versions...

 



Posted By: Wormboy
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 18:05
Originally posted by cowbell1


Does anyone else think that Darkside of the moon is a bit over-rated when compared to other Pink Floyd albems? I mean I think Meddle is a far better albem with Darkside of the moon maybe being their 4th or 5th best.


Meh.  Floyd has a lot of great albums with interesting material.

But it's important to remember that DSOTM was a profoundly innovative album. It really blew the world away when it came out, partly because of the totally new sounds, partly because of the unusually perceptive and human lyrics (especially for prog rock, which tends to go off the deep end), partly for Alan Parson's brilliant engineering and production work, and partly because this is the album where Gilmore first becomes a guitar god (though he was clearly moving there in Meddle).

People often evaluate art by its context and impact.  As such, DSOTM was one of the most influential albums ever made in any genre.  It's up there with Sgt. Pepper's, Ziggy Stardust, and Never Mind the Bollocks as albums that most changed the course of music history.  So I think the accolades are justified, even if it isn't always my favorite Floyd album.

There's a reason it was the longest in the top two hundred albums.  It had staying power that lasted multiple decades.  Just last year I played it for my sister in law, who is 17 years younger.  She said she won't listen to music the same way ever again.  It is that kind of album, even more than 30 years later.


Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 18:12
on the website of Ytsejam (www.ytsejamrecords.com) you can watch a preview of the dvd.
Amazing stuff if you ask me. Still not for sale though.


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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 13:36

I'm not interested.

I'm sure the cover is competent, but that's it. DT got me into prog and I still like them a lot, but they are hardly a great band.



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Posted By: nowayman121
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 19:57
I think DSoTM is over rated. I think mainly because its the album Floyd Fans know. Meddle I think is better.
DT is my second faviourite band under Pink Floyd and I was very interested in this cover. I managed to get a copy of only the first CD but still I was happy. They cover it imo incredibly well without putting their own style into it, but thats what I would have like to hear, DT doing DSoTM not DT covering DSotM. Original is better, nothing can beat it. But this is still fantastic.
I wanted to hear them play WYWH or The Wall tho.



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