Worst Year For Classic Progressive Rock?
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Topic: Worst Year For Classic Progressive Rock?
Posted By: lastdodobird
Subject: Worst Year For Classic Progressive Rock?
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 12:59
| Well, pretty much everyone thinks that 1973 was the best year for prog rock, now what's the worst? And why? |
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 13:02
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I would unknowingly guess that 1979 was the worst year (though 78 could be.) ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 13:11
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Definitely either 1978 or 79. ------------- 
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 13:29
1978. Punk was completely stablished. Genesis and Gentle Giant had become pop artists  . Yes released Tormato, which is not a bad album, but is their worst of the 70's. Pink Floyd didn't release anything that year. 1979 was better because they released The Wall  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 13:46
| Good job you didn't elicit opinions on the worst year in the 80's - how on earth would anyone be able to narrow it down to one year? |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 15:14
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80s ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 15:21
| 2112 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 15:58
| Ye, that would do it "Nota.." |
Posted By: GuilhermeDrigo
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 16:58
said it all ^^ |
eddietrooper wrote:Posted By: theytsejamer
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 17:16
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ok. the punk is established in 1978 but rush -> hemispheres!!!!!!!!!!!!
then, 1979 is the worst year progressive IMO ------------- SMR.... |
Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 19:33
Not in the choices 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 20:59
hahah if Hemispheres of all albums eliminates '78 then I'll counter that Mezquita's 'Recuerdos de mi Tierra' eliminates '79. If you think prog was dead in the late 70's... move out of the English mindset and check out the spanish prog scene. my vote for... worst year for classic prog rock... easy.... 1972 Bruford leaves Yes 
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 22:03
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whatever year is closest to the 80's, so '79
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 23:05
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1979, because Floyd began their downward spiral with The Wall. And I honestly can't think of anything good that was released that year. ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 01:21
Good, accurate analysis. I couldn't agree more. |
Posted By: shyman
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 08:16
| 1981. In that year Abacab was released and horror came to Earth |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 08:20
| 1977 was dry... |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 20:03
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lol as the time goes into the 80s, everything is dead. ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg"> 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 20:44
| 1979- Because the Wall was released. Terrible album.... |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 21:16
Thats probably my favourite Floyd album! Blasphemy!!
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 21:34
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I haven't bought any album or rarely bought albums from the late year because of that. So I would guess 78 - 79 also ------------- 
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 02:20
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in the dark years of 78-80s Rush was really the only group to keep the torch alight.
Mind you 78 had Magma's Attahk, not a bad album, but then they broke up. So Rush was the only hope until Neo Prog. ------------- |
Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 07:11
I noticed that prog didn't really die out. It just went sputtering, but bands like Rush and Marillion somewhat kept the genre alive in the 80s Rush, I think, was the leading prog band for that period in the late 70s until the early 80s. The only year they didn't have a release was 1979. Then where Rush weakened, Marillion took up the challenge as a neo-prog band. I figure that the "dark ages" for prog were probably that period from the late 80s to the early 90s, then it got revived by bands like Tool and Dream Theater to be what it is now. Haha. I don't know why I pointed that out, and I don't know if it's even accurate to say that, but it's just an observation. It's just a little too obvious to add any year after 1979, since prog didn't figure too prominently in the music world after that... So I just took these years into consideration... like "the worst of the best years for prog rock"  |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:20
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THE YEARS BETWEEN 1977 and 1989 ------------- 
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:22
From PUNK REVOLUTION and 1st DREAM THEATRE ALBUM!!! -------------
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Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 16:19
amen
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Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 18:26
I think that would depend on taste, especially the sound. The sound is changing at that time for sure, but to my taste it's for the better. Prog for me would not be the same without (by PA top 100 rating): GENESIS Wind And Wuthering (A fine non-Gabriel album) YES Going for the One (for me the best Yes album!) JETHRO TULL Songs From The Wood (for me the best JT album!) SHAKTI with John McLaughlin Natural Elements (5/5 for me) and I think it was a fine year for jazz rock fusion: AL DI MEOLA Elegant Gypsy BRAND X Livestock Morrocan Roll Weather Report: Heavy Weather among others And at the top of course you'd find PINK FLOYD Animals RUSH A Farewell to Kings and Genesis and Gentle Giant with live albums... |
Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 18:35
The times were definitely a-changing, but the year brought us: UK U.K. BILL BRUFORD One of a Kind MIKE OLDFIELD Incantations BRAND X Masques So the year wasn't quite wasted the way '79 was... |
Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 18:39
If you look at the top of TOP-100 (or rather at the TOP-10 where Fragile used to belong so I count it in here) 1972 seems the better year... |
Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:02
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79 = closest to the 80's = worst prog year
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Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:18
Oh okay. I was just basing that on the poll I made asking which the best year for prog rock was, and 1973 was the runaway winner  |
Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 12:23
OK didn't know that one. Still a newbie in the forum though I've been using this site (reviews&ratings) intensively for 3 or 4 months now! So that would be the "feeling" about it (1973) and 1972 represents the factual scoring of records. 1972 has got ten albums in TOP-100 versus 1973's nine - one of 1972's is Deep Purple - hmm so we take that one out. But even without DP the remaining 9 albums score an average of 10% better in regard to their placing on the list.  Esben
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Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 12:45
If you study TOP-100 (it's not the Bible, I know ) that picture is confirmed - regarding Rush and Marillion. BTW I got my idea supported: that the great time of prog were the years 1970-77
'69 has got 2 albums in the TOP-100 '70-77 has got around 60 albums (1970 5 all in lower half 1971 8 1972 10 (Incl. Deep Purple) 1973 9 1974 9 (Incl. Queen) 1975 6 1976 5 1977 7) '78-79 has got 3(!) '80-89 has got 5 (neo-prog) 90-99 has got 10 (prog metal and some neo-prog and Porcupine Tree) 2000-2005 'round 20 (prog metal even more dominating) So if that's the true tendency (exponential growth!?) prog is really on its way back! |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:00
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:20
I absolutely agree. The Wall is a disaster ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:52
Which is worse? The movie or the album? |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 14:17
| "The Wall" is a MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 18:13
OnlyIf you are a miserable, confused 15 year old  . ------------- |
Posted By: Alagithil
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 22:55
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Prolly 79. The Wall issue aside, the only great studio album released was Spectral Mornings. And Joe's Garage? ------------- Life is like an avantgarde play because tuna. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 23:21
I'd rather listen to the album than watch that movie. Seen it once, it scarred me for life  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 01:05
DSotM and WYWH are far better albums |
Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 03:17
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Yes, let's stop this ridiculous polarization without content.
To me The Wall (that once meant a lot to me) is so much a representative of the spirit of the eighties, that I tend to say - at least prog-wise - that the eighties started in '79 - anyone get what I hint at? Best regards Esben |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 13:31
Uhm.... THE WALL is only one of THE MASTERPIECES of Pink Floyd... -------------
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 14:04
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I chose 1979 because with the end of the 70s it was an end of a "golden era", but, in fact, the 80's were a very deadly decade for what we call "prog" and it's still taking some time to re-introduce the kind of music I grew up with to the younger people, but, to our fortune, they are LISTENING and there's many good bands that came up with the "neo-prog" wave or whatever you call it. Last year I had the fortune to listewn to a local band, all young persons, who really caught the spirit of "prog" to me... their name was "Odd Udder"... crazy stuff, very inspired, very special.
I do believe there's a future for "prog" after in the 80s there seemed to be a break in development and nothing went further ! ------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock ! |
Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:27
| .....after 1977.when punk rock broke out...but maybe the worst was 1979 because punk wave was at its best |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:29
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1976, the year the Ramones debuted and ruined everything.
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Posted By: clairvoyant
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:47
Genesis was not a pop artist in 1978. ...And Then There Were Three is a good album with some classic tracks. |
Posted By: CVoss
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 13:14
1978 was saved on the sake of Rush's Hemispheres 
Of course The Wall could have saved 1979, but there were less prog records released that year, and about as many bad records too; also, the Floyd classic didn't come out until December, so much of the album's impact carries into 1980. ------------- "No one told you when to run You missed the starting gun" |
Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:32
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Who the f**k voted for 1973? Dumb sh*ts... |
Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:36
That's what I wanna know... ------------- [IMG]http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i165/amorfous/astro-1.jpg"> |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 02:03
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1979 was a little poppy to me.
The glory days was 69-75 and after 76 it just went down....
Until 1984!
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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 06:06
| 1977 - 1979 |