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Topic: PRIMUS vocals = Mr. Skull???
Posted By: cuncuna
Subject: PRIMUS vocals = Mr. Skull???
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 17:29
¿So, how about it?... while I really enjoy some of Primus albums, I can't help to notice the similarity between the way Les Claypol "sing" and the Voice that Mr. Skull uses to perform (when he's not shouting or Cookie monstering - one of my few examples in wich growling seems ok as resource). More than similarity; I really think Claypol is stealing something, wich is good enough to remove some stars from Primus. ¿Thoughts, Tears...?

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 17:50
Mr. Skull?

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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 17:51
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Mr. Skull?


The one with the Skull mask on The Residents... sometimes, he also uses the Eyeball mask, so I guess it is confuse... but let's say "The Residents Main Vocalist"...
    

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 17:54
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Mr. Skull?


The one with the Skull mask on The Residents... sometimes, he also uses the Eyeball mask, so I guess it is confuse... but let's say "The Residents Main Vocalist"...
    

Ah yes... Mr. Skull. Well I know Claypool is influenced by The Residents, so it doesn't really come off as a surprise that he somewhat adopted a style similar to Mr. Skull. From what I've heard by the Residents (Third Reich and Roll and Duck Stab) I don't really hear the similarities, though.


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 18:02
I'm talking about vocals only; The Residents whole music style is another issue. And just when Mr. Skull is not shouting, but talking/singing.

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 18:03
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

I'm talking about vocals only; The Residents whole music style is another issue. And just when Mr. Skull is not shouting, but talking/singing.

I know you're not talking about the vocals, I just don't see the similarities.


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 18:57
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:


Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

I'm talking about vocals only; The Residents whole music style is another issue. And just when Mr. Skull is not shouting, but talking/singing.
I know you're not talking about the vocals, I just don't see the similarities.


Perhaps my basic english trainning is playing me... I'm trying to say "Les Claypol sings very much like Mr. Skull, except for those electronically distorted vocals that Mr. Skull uses sometimes."
    

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 19:04
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:


Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

I'm talking about vocals only; The Residents whole music style is another issue. And just when Mr. Skull is not shouting, but talking/singing.
I know you're not talking about the vocals, I just don't see the similarities.


Perhaps my basic english trainning is playing me... I'm trying to say "Les Claypol sings very much like Mr. Skull, except for those electronically distorted vocals that Mr. Skull uses sometimes."
    

I understood what you meant. And upon re-listening to Duck Stab, I see a slight similarity in approach, but not enough that I would call a total rip-off.


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Posted By: D.Noisserger
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 20:23
In fact, it's not possible to Les Claypool to be the singer of The Residents.  Well, the voices on some album like Duck Stab, Commercial, etc, is very like the one of Claypool, but the "hic" is about the chronology.

But from the last 10 years, the singer voice look much more like the one of Tom Waits ( who work on Anti-Pop with Les).

Yes Claypool is very inspired by the ancient Residents Vocal, but I don't think he was the singer of the legendary Residents.


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 21:18
Originally posted by D.Noisserger D.Noisserger wrote:

In fact, it's not possible to Les Claypool to be the singer of The Residents.  Well, the voices on some album like Duck Stab, Commercial, etc, is very like the one of Claypool, but the "hic" is about the chronology.But from the last 10 years, the singer voice look much more like the one of Tom Waits ( who work on Anti-Pop with Les).Yes Claypool is very inspired by the ancient Residents Vocal, but I don't think he was the singer of the legendary Residents.


I think I have serious issues with my English... or perhaps with the logic behind the title of the thread... off course Les Claypol can't also be the singer of The Residents... he would be very very old if so... but the sound of the voice is almost an impersonation of Mr. Skull... I'm saying this after listening to a song wich I thought was Primus, but ended up being a Residents song from The Comercial Album...

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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 21:20
Everyone knows that Homer Flynn is the singer.
 
Listen to him in interviews, it's pretty obvious
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLXPEYZi2M&search=The%20Residents%20interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLXPEYZi2M&search=The%20Residents%20interview


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Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: June 27 2006 at 22:17
Hello Skinny was on Primus' Frizzle Fry album. I really dont know and don't feel like looking it up, but I think I read somewhere that when Les was growing up he would "walk on glass" just to meet the residents.
 
I used to think Hello Skinny was a Primus song because the singers do sound pretty much the same.
 
Oh well, both bands are amazing.
 
So I guess listen to Hello Skinny if you don't hear the similarity.


Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 01:32
they sound A LOT the same to me...it's not your english, it's other people's reading skills Wink


Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 01:53
Maybe Claypol is his son Shocked



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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 08:55

The similarities are conscious ones, I'm sure. I see it as tribute more than rip-off.



Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 09:03
Originally posted by Viajero Astral Viajero Astral wrote:

Maybe Claypol is his son Shocked



Tongue


 
No, Claypool's father was a fisherman, and wasn't Homer Flynn.


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 13:10
¿Who's Homer Flynn?... mmm... Google...

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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 13:37
More on who Claypool can sound like:  has anyone else noticed the similarities between his and Roger Waters' registers on The Wall?


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 13:47
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Originally posted by D.Noisserger D.Noisserger wrote:

In fact, it's not possible to Les Claypool to be the singer of The Residents.  Well, the voices on some album like Duck Stab, Commercial, etc, is very like the one of Claypool, but the "hic" is about the chronology.But from the last 10 years, the singer voice look much more like the one of Tom Waits ( who work on Anti-Pop with Les).Yes Claypool is very inspired by the ancient Residents Vocal, but I don't think he was the singer of the legendary Residents.


I think I have serious issues with my English... or perhaps with the logic behind the title of the thread... off course Les Claypol can't also be the singer of The Residents... he would be very very old if so... but the sound of the voice is almost an impersonation of Mr. Skull... I'm saying this after listening to a song wich I thought was Primus, but ended up being a Residents song from The Comercial Album...


You probably don't know that the Residents are most likely to have a changing lineup ...


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 18:00
Originally posted by CaincelaOreinim CaincelaOreinim wrote:

More on who Claypool can sound like:  has anyone else noticed the similarities between his and Roger Waters' registers on The Wall?


A couple times, in ANTIPOP... mmm ¿The Residents are prog related now?... I wasn't very sure about where to place this thread; ¿but The prot-prog/prog related?... I'll try to think it harder next time, admin. Sorry.

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Posted By: Root_Pepper
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 19:35
It's an age old debate that Claypool has often dispelled. He's just a HUGE fan of the Residents and were a large musical influence on him and Primus altogether. Primus have played Residents covers in the past (which you should check out) and had Residents as guests at a Primus CD release party. There's a torrent bootleg of it somewhere, in which the Residents sing over Primus performing covers of Residents songs.

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