Goth-Metal (besides SoP and Opeth)
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Topic: Goth-Metal (besides SoP and Opeth)
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Subject: Goth-Metal (besides SoP and Opeth)
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 22:09
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I am looking for music that is lachrymal, depressing yet beautiful. I am not looking for Evanescence; I have that one album and its decent.
I read the most recent thread on Stream of Passion and Ayreon. Regarding SoP, would I be greeted with melancholy goth songs with dulcet vocals ala Marcela Bovio or pop-goth similar to Evanescence.
Is Materia-Novembre suppose to be good. Is it goth?
Suggestions?
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 01:17
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It's hard to define something as being "goth", but Novembre definitely fits the description of dark yet beautiful. other recs: Isis - Panopticon (sludgy, but full of beautiful layers) The Gathering Type O Negative (not prog, but undeniably goth, and awesome) and if you like Evanescence, Lacuna Coil is similar but much better.  ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 03:17
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^ The Gathering are not Gothic Metal. On Nighttime Birds and Mandylion they sometimes sound Gothic because of the combination of female vocals + metal, but that's about all. As a band, looking at all their albums, they're Experimental/Post-Metal. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 03:22
| This is a style that's none too popular with me, but if you're into Stream of Passion/Evanesecence type stuff, I can't see you not enjoying After Forever, Epica, Within Temptation and the aforementioned Lacuna Coil. Green Carnation is also worth investigating. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 09:43
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I highly recommend Novembre's Materia, especially because it is summer now.
Other "dark beauty" albums you MUST listen to at some point in your life:
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose The Swans
Agalloch - Pale Folklore(in addition, wait for the new one to come out this August)
Swallow The Sun - The Morning Never Came(the day you realize Doom Metal is your thing, get this... But listening to MDB first is a good idea)
Disillusion - Back to Times of Splendor(some thrashy moments though, but both epics are full of dark beauty you're seeking)
The Gathering - How to Measure A Planet
Green Carnation - Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness
In The Woods... - Omnio(the masterpiece), Strange In Stereo(also great). If you find them brilliant, just like me, you might as well collect the rest of their discography.
Ved Buens Ende - Written In Waters(defines the word 'atmospheric')
maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 13:06
| I don't think Opeth are very gothic... Lacrimosa are worth checking out although they're not usually all that metal. |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 13:22
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Evergrey of course!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 13:37
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I know I will be in the minority here- but U have always enjoyed Type O Negative- "October Rust" is one of the most beautiful albums I have ever heard. Give it a shot- trust me. ------------- |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 20:54
| Lacuna Coil. |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 22:03
 one of the first bands I was ever a huge fan of, and they've stuck with me for years. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Drew wrote:Posted By: Orion-GER
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 08:52
| I recommend TYPE O NEGATIVE, ANATHEMA, MY DYING BRIDE and PARADISE LOST. |
Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 09:16
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Obviously LACRIMOSA ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 13:44
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you should try Empyrium's Songs of Moors and Misty Fields, it is part goth, metal, folk, ambient, doom, atmospheric
oh and it isn't gay like most goth music is
Aaron
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 18:01
IMO they were goth metal in these two albums you are referring but I don't want to argue on this... again
 My dying bride have some goth elements (mostly doom though)
Paradise Lost were thought to be goth metal until Draconian times
these two are highlt recommended IMO
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 18:51
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^ compare the lyrics ... they're much different from the typical goth topics. Also, the folky instrumentation/keyboards don't play medieval themes, like in goth bands, but spacey/experimental stuff. But for these two albums I don't mind if people call them Goth ... I just mind when people call The Gathering a Goth Metal band and liken them to Lacuna Coil or Evanescence. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 19:47
Wheeeeeeeee. Great album. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 03:01
^ I prefer Weiland, but that one is pure Folk - neither Rock nor Metal.
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Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 03:40
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It's not 'Goth' but some of the newer Katatonia releases might fit what you want nicely, plus their older albums are awesome grinding doom metal :D |
Posted By: Zadok
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 15:11
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What's your definition of Goth? I reccomend- Winds - The Imaginary Direction Of Time - Excellent neoclassical metal, quite a supergroup as well (Hellhammer on drums) Star Of Ash - Iter.Viator - Side project of Ihriel from Peccatum. A little hard to find, but worth it. Think Dead Can Dance meets late Ulver... http://www.starofash.com - www.starofash.com
Frantic Bleep - The Sense Apparatus - Great fairly-new Norwegian band. Interesting Prog-metal, with Goth influences.
Edit: These should fit in with the 'beauty' you were looking for. I'll add more if/when I think of them.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 21:15
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Right now I'm hearing Agalloch's Pale Folklore for the first time and I strongly recommend this album and band. Thanks to Ivanfr0st for those recommendations in other threads  ------------- 
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: July 05 2006 at 04:35
Great album, chamberry!
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: July 05 2006 at 09:11
yeah that is a great album as well, it has the same atmosphere as some of the early Univers Zero albums, just not RIO at all, just minimal folk music, some very strong songs on that album and it builds throughout very well
Aaron
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 05 2006 at 14:40
agree with your thoughts
however, Lacuna Coil are largely influenced by the Gathering, as for Evanescence........ no need to discuss
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 05 2006 at 14:42
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also...
some Katatonia albums as referred before may match your expectations
and surely Type o Negative
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 17:18
| Opeth and the Gathering aren't goth-metal IMO. If you have to listen to this genre pick up After forever or Epica. |
Posted By: Stars Die
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 21:22
I would really just like to point out that, Goth, as in gothic rock, and Gothic metal are two seperate styles without much incommon...  ------------- Du Skojar om att jag Skojar men jag skojar inte alls |